Who on AFF are the cruise gurus and what are your preferred cruise lines and ships?

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Subjective, but it's also due to ship, and even itinerary (location) differences.
At the moment generalising to cruise line level, I put Princess above, then RCL and Celebrity fairly equal. But individual ships have different characteristics that will move them up and down, and that can be accentuated further by the region they are operating in.


There are always reports about sickness on the big ships -

"More than 300 passengers became ill on a Royal Caribbean cruise out of Florida last week, the second time in less than a month that sickness swept through passengers and crew on one of the cruise line's ships.
Royal Caribbean said 332 cases of gastrointestinal illness were reported on the Independence of the Seas before it returned Saturday to Port Everglades, Fla., after a five-night cruise."
Hundreds get sick on Royal Caribbean cruise — again
 
There are always reports about sickness on the big ships -

"More than 300 passengers became ill on a Royal Caribbean cruise out of Florida last week, the second time in less than a month that sickness swept through passengers and crew on one of the cruise line's ships.
Royal Caribbean said 332 cases of gastrointestinal illness were reported on the Independence of the Seas before it returned Saturday to Port Everglades, Fla., after a five-night cruise."
Hundreds get sick on Royal Caribbean cruise — again
We were on Ovation of the Seas when the 200+ became ill.

The bit that never got publicised was that one passenger became ill on day 2 of the cruise but never reported to medical until day 12.

That’s probably enough to cause the whole 200 cases.
 
There are always reports about sickness on the big ships -

"More than 300 passengers became ill on a Royal Caribbean cruise out of Florida last week, the second time in less than a month that sickness swept through passengers and crew on one of the cruise line's ships.
Royal Caribbean said 332 cases of gastrointestinal illness were reported on the Independence of the Seas before it returned Saturday to Port Everglades, Fla., after a five-night cruise."
Hundreds get sick on Royal Caribbean cruise — again
We tend to hear about noro on big ships but it also occurs on the more ‘upmarket’ ones as well. Our Arctic cruise on SS had an outbreak which necessitated a delayed departure from Longerbyen as we had an agent disembarking but Norway has a 48 hr quarantine so we had to wait for her to be able to leave. About half the ship got sick and unfortunately I was one of them. Also not allowed off in Longerbyen.:(
 
I have just returned from a 5 day cruise on the Astor with 3 generations of my family as a group of 9. These are my observations.
The Astor

Pros
  • Small size
We had a midship cabin which was only a short walk to the front and rear stairs. The Dining room was one floor up at the rear, the buffet was above the dining room and the Astor lounge was one floor up forward. I only used the lift once, when we were escorted to our room by one of the staff as we embarked. There were two lifts forward and one lift aft. The lifts looked fullish with three adults in them and did not accommodate wheelchairs.
  • Cabins
Premium Suite Oceanview

The Astor has only one cabin with a balcony so we chose the above room which had two full-length windows. It was the biggest room we have ever had on a ship, even bigger than a Princess Grill room on the Queen Elizabeth. I was great to lie in bed or sit on the couch and watch the waves go past. It was originally two rooms with the dividing wall removed. The price for the 5-night cruise was $3000. A bit pricey, but it was the minimum arrangement with which we would be happy. It has more storage space than I could imagine anyone would ever need.
Single Inner
There are only four of these cabins, located midships. The price for the cruise was $875. Quite a competitive price for a single traveller.
Bathroom
Both the Premium Suite Oceanview and the Single Inner has a reasonably sized bathroom with a glass walled shower, no bath. This is my preferred arrangement.
Superior Inner Suite
Same layout as the Premium Suite Oceanview.
  • Shows
These were well done with limited resources. There were 5 singers including the cruise director and 6 dancers. The music was all enjoyable with themes of Broadway Musicals, Peter Allen, Abba and Around the World. There were no sets but good costumes and very energetic dancing.

Before the shows there was 30 minutes of dancing music.

Cons
  • Small Size
As the ship is very small, there are a restricted number of areas in which to congregate. They are the Astor Lounge which is closed at times, the Captains Club which is a darker internal area with a corridor on either side, the Games room and the Library, with 6 tables in each. Both the games room and the library have good selections. There is very short promenade deck for walking under some cover and a short walking track on the top deck of the boat.
  • Gym
This was an inadequate area with little equipment. Unfortunately, the smoking area has been placed right outside the door to the gym with unpleasant consequences.
  • Dining
Waldorf Restaurant
The largest table size was 6. This did not suit our group of 9 but the maître d’ placed us at the back of the dining room at a table for 4 next to a table for 6 and we mixed and matched at each meal. The dining room was full a number of times and people had to queue up to wait for other diners to leave. The food was satisfactory but not brilliant. Better than Celebrity but not as good as Azamara, Cunard, Princess or Royal Caribbean.
Buffet
This served the same food as the Waldorf Restaurant with slightly extended hours. The opening hours were quite restricted.
  • Accessibility
I was amazed at the lack of passengers in wheelchairs, scooters or walkers. Maybe half a dozen passengers. There are restrictions on where wheelchairs can be stored. One passenger who could walk a few steps had to get out of his wheelchair, his wife would collapse it and then expanded it at the next level. This was because the lifts were too small to accommodate his collapsible wheelchair. On some cruises, I have estimated 25% of passengers requiring mobility aids.

Comments
The boat is marketed to adults and is not set up to entertain children. This means that even though our cruise was in the middle of the summer school holidays, there were far fewer children than I expected. (Two were in our party; a 5yo and a 3yo.) However, there were no specific activities for children or teenagers.

This cruise had the lowest average passenger age of any I have experienced. I would estimate the difference to be 20 years. My husband cruelly jokes that on some cruises, the average age is dead. There were also a higher proportion of men than I have usually noticed.

The number of activities on sea days was very limited.

Conclusion

My daughter-in-law enjoyed the cruise as she loved the provided meals, the itinerary being in and out of Fremantle and serviced cabins. It allowed her and my son to have plenty of fun with the children. She wants to go again in the 2019 and 2020 summer school holidays.

My daughter wouldn’t go on the Astor again. The ship was too small for her with inadequate pools and no hot tub. She wasn’t thrilled with the food.

My husband found the size of the ship limited the opportunities to stretch his legs.

My husband and I would only go on the Astor again on a short cruise as part of a group which included our grandchildren. We didn’t fuss about the ports due to the close proximity to Perth. Otherwise, we prefer to stick with Princess, Cunard and the Bravo (Classical music and Opera) cruise.
 
Can someone give feedback on Sea PRINCESS cruise that goes around Papua new guinea...
Code: PCC825
Pros and cons 11 days
Tips and tricks?
Booked.
 
We have been on 20+ cruises and I rate Holland America as a stand out, closely followed by Royal Caribbean, Celebrity. They are our top three. Princess is by far the most overated and not good by any stretch followed by Norweighn then P&O dead last. I can't comment on any others as we have not used them.
 
They did Celebrity I think last time..... Alaska.
Only Princess and P&O do Papua New Guinea..... So out of luck with others!
Appreciate the insight though..... Thankyou
 
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They did Celebrity I think last time..... Alaska.
Only Princess and P&O do Papua New Guinea..... So out of luck with others!
Appreciate the insight though..... Thankyou
Some smaller ships as well-silversea and APT on the Sky ships.Though the last Caledonian Sky cruise ended up on a reef in West Irian and is banned from there.
 
Can someone give feedback on Sea PRINCESS cruise that goes around Papua new guinea...
Code: PCC825
Pros and cons 11 days
Tips and tricks?
Booked.

Sea Princess is one of their older ships - less bells and whistles than on the newer ships. Service and food are still good though, and unlike the poster a little above I find preferable to Celebrity and RCL.

That sort of cruise won't be a 'party ship' by any means, things onboard will normally be pretty quiet after 10 pm. That said, this is just entering school holidays, and is over Christmas so is likely to have a younger crowd than usual for Princess (though still not huge numbers). Depends what the cruiser is looking for as to whether that's good or bad. Entertainment is usually fairly good, but again depends on preferences. There will be more than on Celebrity for example, and a similar number to RCL but targeting the older cruiser than RCL.

The other thing is that is a December cruise, so to that region then will be hot, humid and chance of cyclones, though that's luck of the draw. If that happens though, then ports may be missed so depends how important specific ports are to the trip purpose.
 
Interesting comment by JJJJSwan regarding Royal Caribbean vs Princess as I would say exactly the opposite. Princess are seen to cater for a slightly older market but still do younger very well. Royal Caribbean have big ships with lots and lots of people and it’s often difficult to breath without bumping into someone. Our experience on Ovation of the Seas is that they do not have anywhere that can cater for the larger numbers.

I cannot comment on HA or Celebrity and agree that P&O (Australia) is dead last. Note that P&O International are leaps and bounds above P&O Australia. A lot more comments could be made regarding the relationships between them all but to answer the question posed by PLANT in post #165.

I/we like Sea Princess. Not quite as flash as a few of the newer ships but still very comfortable and we would rather go on here than a few others. The trip you are asking about is one that we want to do sometime as both my wife and I have reasons to visit Rabaul. (I lived on the airfield there for 3 months in 1973 in my RAAF days) The Conflict Islands are impressive though relatively small with Milne Bay a must for those with WWII military connections.

In summary I'd/we'd happily do that cruise on Sea Princess.
 
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Some information as a postscript to my above post.

Carnival Corporation & plc is a British-American cruise operator currently the world's largest travel leisure company, with a combined fleet of over 100 vessels across 10 cruise line brands. A dual listed company, Carnival is composed of two companies, Carnival Corporation and Carnival plc, which function as one entity. Carnival Corporation is listed on the New York Stock Exchange and Carnival plc on the London Stock Exchange. As such, Carnival is the only company in the world to be listed on both the S&P 500 and FTSE 100 indices. Carnival Corporation's global headquarters is located in Miami, Florida, the United States, with UK headquarters being at Southampton, Hampshire, and with regional offices in Australia, Germany and Italy.

The ten brands are:
  1. AIDA cruises
  2. Carnival Cruise Line
  3. Costa Cruises
  4. Cunard line
  5. Fathom
  6. Holland America line
  7. P&O Cruises
  8. P&O Cruise Australia
  9. Princess Cruises
  10. Seabourn Cruise line
Each of these are pitched at a different level of the market.
 
Our next 2 cruises are booked on Viking. One to Alaska and we’ve taken the plunge on a River Nile river cruise and touring afterwards in Jordan. Very excited. Two bucket list places in the one year.
 
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We have been on 20+ cruises and I rate Holland America as a stand out, closely followed by Royal Caribbean, Celebrity. They are our top three. Princess is by far the most overated and not good by any stretch followed by Norweighn then P&O dead last. I can't comment on any others as we have not used them.

We also like HAL and are booked on our 6th HAL cruise from Shanghai in Oct
 
River Nile river cruise and touring afterwards in Jordan. Very excited. Two bucket list places in the one year.
Nile River cruising, and Jordan, were both all-time travel highlights for me, I hope you love your time there
 
Nile River cruising, and Jordan, were both all-time travel highlights for me, I hope you love your time there
We have been wanting to do this for years and had booked a few years ago. Then it all went rather crazy over there. We are both keen to see all the Egyptian Sights. Figure this will be safe.
 
So family members left today..... On Princess Cruise.... They were upgraded to balcony cabin?????
But in the aft lvl 7....

I have seen the invoice and $480 fees and taxes..... Is this the prepaid gratuities?

They believe cruises from Australia don't charge gratuities?
Is this correct?



YouTube videos say that princesses cruises don't include drinks in boarding price????

Also how bad is aft room location on ship?
 
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