Getting churlish with people on here when you have been corrected multiple times won't endear you to anyone.Whatever you say Simon
Hahah that’s why I said “a base on the east coast” or have 737-700s which aren’t operated by VARA that way they don’t need to be shuffled from coast to coast.Aside from profitability another factor the arm chair CEO hasn’t considered is the (opportunity) cost to shuffle these aircraft between the coast.
You’d waste 12 hours ferrying an E190 from Perth to Melbourne/Sydney and back - that’s a full day of revenue flying the aircraft could have done and is otherwise wasted on being ferried to the east coast. Plus the lack of a E190 base there means the crew will have to reposition and overnight at a hotel. Don’t think those extra overhead will mean you can undercut Qantas/Rex.
So what sort of timeline are you thinking for these to get going? A few years to get aircrafts?Hahah that’s why I said “a base on the east coast” or have 737-700s which aren’t operated by VARA
Mate get your logic together. Your whole business case was like “undercut Qantas/Rex” then you throw something like “oh yeah setup an extra base on the east coast and base E190s there instead of Perth where they are making good money FIFO”.Hahah that’s why I said “a base on the east coast”
The 700s exist because the FIFO airfields are too hot and short. They are necessary at Perth but on the east coast the per seat scale of the 800 makes much more sense.737-700s which aren’t operated by VARA
Hahah no. 737-700s are extremely important on east coast. They fly pretty much all flights between Sydney and Ballina as well as thinner routes like bne to Hobart, Canberra and Uluṟu etc.Mate get your logic together. Your whole business case was like “undercut Qantas/Rex” then you throw something like “oh yeah setup an extra base on the east coast and base E190s there instead of Perth where they are making good money FIFO”.
The 700s exist because the FIFO airfields are too hot and short. They are necessary at Perth but on the east coast the per seat scale of the 800 makes much more sense.
News to me about the Sydney to Ballina route. Looks as if according to flight aware all services are operated by a 737.800.Hahah no. 737-700s are extremely important on east coast. They fly pretty much all flights between Sydney and Ballina as well as thinner routes like bne to Hobart, Canberra and Uluṟu etc.
Look at flight radar, VA1139, pretty much all flights recently have been on 737-700s.News to me about the Sydney to Ballina route. Looks as if according to flight aware all services are operated by a 737.800.
What days are they operating the 737-700?
The 700s aren't necessarily cheaper to operate though. Their cost per seat kilometre would be higher given there are less seats on the aircraft, and with VA still using 4 cabin crew on the 700s, the crewing costs would be same, not lower. In a lot of situations, it's probably better to use an -800 with a lower load factor because the CASK is better.Hahah no. 737-700s are extremely important on east coast. They fly pretty much all flights between Sydney and Ballina as well as thinner routes like bne to Hobart, Canberra and Uluṟu etc.
The VA1139/1140 rotation is usually a -700.News to me about the Sydney to Ballina route. Looks as if according to flight aware all services are operated by a 737.800.
What days are they operating the 737-700?
Yeah I agree. But VA have definitely made use of the 737-700s on the east coast.The 700s aren't necessarily cheaper to operate though. Their cost per seat kilometre would be higher given there are less seats on the aircraft, and with VA still using 4 cabin crew on the 700s, the crewing costs would be same, not lower. In a lot of situations, it's probably better to use an -800 with a lower load factor because the CASK is better.
There was a plan to crew the all-Y -700s in WA with 3 cabin crew, but that was abandoned a long time ago when they decided to fit business cabins.
The VA1139/1140 rotation is usually a -700.
They got rid of all but 2 700s in a prior life. The Ex KLM 737-700 were bought as a stop gap measure for FIFO where 800 were not suitable and the Fokkers getting on in age. They now circulate a bit around the network when downtime from FIFO allows which, again, is good management and utization of assets. Please stop referencing Bonza as a benchmark, they were a complete failed business plan from day 1 and any reference to them when claiming viability is complete and utter horse cough.Hahah no. 737-700s are extremely important on east coast. They fly pretty much all flights between Sydney and Ballina as well as thinner routes like bne to Hobart, Canberra and Uluṟu etc.
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Whilst I agree with most of what you have said, the federal government building a fast rail is laughable now, although the media love to report on it once per year, which is always entertaining.I think rather than call it VARA, it would make more sense if there's another separate entity to do this on the east coast if that is what VA eventually tries.
This won't be anything anytime soon. But as I alluded to previously, many of the possible routes would be made redundant as a future business case if the federal government commits and starts building rail.
So it'll need a whole host of lots of things to fall in place for VA to expand its regional east coast situation.
Oh i'm not optimistic either, but if you're doing some medium long term planning you really need to take this factor into consideration that any government might suddenly decide to tank your business model and plan.Whilst I agree with most of what you have said, the federal government building a fast rail is laughable now, although the media love to report on it once per year, which is always entertaining.
I will certainly be dead by the time any rail project of this scale is built, and I hope to be around for another 30 to 40 years![]()