Woken up for snoring :)

[JohnK]

Im not sure that you being unable to sleep without snoring is of any consequence to those who can't sleep because of it.

There are different reasons for snoring. One is for when the tongue gets involved in the throat. I have issues via my nose and awful with a head congestion. Wonder if I'll get woken up tonight?

Apparently I snore loudly all the time. The key to my snoring is to fall asleep before I do and then you'll be fine.

Interesting that my 4 month old daughter also snores. Has been snoring for a while. Looks like she's picked up lots of daddy's bad habits. Sorry.

 

[theweaselsteve]

I'm genuinely surprised at how many here would actually wake someone up! I personally wouldn't dream of it. I'm sure there are things that some people could do to stop or lessen the snoring, but at the end of the day it's "one of those things". I think there's not much the majority of people can do about their snoring, and so we just have to deal with it.

 

[carls888]

If it was really loud and disruptive I would hope the FA, especially in J or F, would step in and gently wake the person up. If they did not and it disturbed me or my children I would ask them to.
I doubt I would actually do it myself though.

 

[Justinf]

There was a loud snorer opposite me on my Y QF flight from LAX-MEL last Thursday. Snored sitting bolt upright too. It didn't bother me too much because I just put music on through my Bose QC35s, but it's a repetitive noise that has a rhythm to it so it doesn't bother me like a dog barking or a baby crying because you don't know when it's going to stop or start up again.

 

[PaulST]

Its been an interesting thread to realise some people actually do advocate "active" intervention (prodding, shaking awake shusshing etc) wheras others would advocate a more passive response like asking FAs to help. A few would just grin and bear it....or like me seem to be the ones who snore so are blissfully unaware of our nocturnal noise that we wake up to empty seats around us

On behalf of snoring people everywhere, I apologise. Earplugs + Noise cancelling headphones playing some like Brahms perhaps?

Please don't wake me up, I have no idea how to stop myself from snoring. I need several Manhattans and Moscow Mules in the lounge because my Irish genes won't let me avoid free alcohol and I feel I must make the most of it

Haven't you just admitted that you do, in fact, know how to stop yourself from snoring (not consuming ETOH)?

This has been any interesting thread to follow. Making the (correct) assumption that there's multiple modifiable risk factors for snoring (ie. obesity, ETOH use), as well as some people just having bad luck, are some snorers guilty of being inconsiderate?

Here's a comparison... Let say I work a full day, then head to the gym and become all sweaty and smelly, then straight to SYD to catch QF25. I don't really allow enough time for a shower and just go straight on board and stink out the cabin. We all know that sweating and BO is natural and some people seem to get it worse than others, so that's an unmodifiable risk factor (like genetically weak throats*). We also know that showering and clean clothes helps manage this (modifiable risk factor, like drinking or being obese knowing full well this causes you to snore). Would I be a rather inconsiderate person if I didn't allow time for a shower and change of clothes? I think so. DITTO snoring...

On the topic of actually waking someone, I'd be too timid and probably just put up with it and be sure to give the person an evil look at breaky time the following morning...

*not the correct term, but you get the point.

 

[Happy Dude]

Haven't you just admitted that you do, in fact, know how to stop yourself from snoring (not consuming ETOH)?

This has been any interesting thread to follow. Making the (correct) assumption that there's multiple modifiable risk factors for snoring (ie. obesity, ETOH use), as well as some people just having bad luck, are some snorers guilty of being inconsiderate?

Here's a comparison... Let say I work a full day, then head to the gym and become all sweaty and smelly, then straight to SYD to catch QF25. I don't really allow enough time for a shower and just go straight on board and stink out the cabin. We all know that sweating and BO is natural and some people seem to get it worse than others, so that's an unmodifiable risk factor (like genetically weak throats*). We also know that showering and clean clothes helps manage this (modifiable risk factor, like drinking or being obese knowing full well this causes you to snore). Would I be a rather inconsiderate person if I didn't allow time for a shower and change of clothes? I think so. DITTO snoring...

On the topic of actually waking someone, I'd be too timid and probably just put up with it and be sure to give the person an evil look at breaky time the following morning...

*not the correct term, but you get the point.

Have you ever been on a POM flight? Or sat next to a dude who's just smoked a pack?

Being inconsiderate is the new black, or so it would seem. But I guess I'm the same as you. I was too timid to tell the jetskier ruining my time at the beach recently with his constant buzzing back and forth to bugger off. What are the odds of him being a "wake snorers up if they bother me" type?

 

[Pushka]

I think there is a general trend of not caring much about how we impact on other people by our presence or behaviour. I try make myself somehow invisible. Speak quietly. Try not disturb others. (Sometimes I get a bit excited and can't help myself.). But this means I'm constantly disappointed by others who don't give a damn.

If I knew what stopped an objectionable behaviour (e.g. Snoring) and continued on regardless when later on I knew it would become bothersome to others then that's selfish. But some people just snore because they can't help it. Hard to know which is which on a plane but if I knew a person had consumed a LOT of alcohol and then started snoring then I would find some way of waking them.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

I'm genuinely surprised at how many here would actually wake someone up! I personally wouldn't dream of it. I'm sure there are things that some people could do to stop or lessen the snoring, but at the end of the day it's "one of those things". I think there's not much the majority of people can do about their snoring, and so we just have to deal with it.

is snoring really 'just one of those things'? I thought side sleeping or stomach sleeping stopped snoring? Or get a cpap if you have apnea.

 

[theweaselsteve]

Yes. It is just one of those things. You have no way of definitively knowing what's causing the snoring, and the perpetrator may well have no idea they're doing it. If you're aware that you snore (loudly and persistently) then there's an argument that you should take measures to prevent it but even then they're not always successful. If you're not aware that you snore then what are you supposed to do? Like I said, it's just one of those things. I would certainly be angry about being woken up and wouldn't dream of waking anyone else.

 

[JohnK]

is snoring really 'just one of those things'? I thought side sleeping or stomach sleeping stopped snoring? Or get a cpap if you have apnea.

Yes just one of those things. Apparently I snore loudly. More so if I am tired or consumed more alcohol. I don't do it on purpose. Doesn't matter which way I sleep. Don't want a cpap machine.

But is snoring any different to people thinking they need to recline to sleep and inconvenience others?

 

[theweaselsteve]

Exactly JohnK. It's one of the many inconveniences associated with being stuck in a metal tube with hundreds of strangers. Sometimes things don't go your way. Deal with it.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Yes. It is just one of those things. You have no way of definitively knowing what's causing the snoring, and the perpetrator may well have no idea they're doing it. If you're aware that you snore (loudly and persistently) then there's an argument that you should take measures to prevent it but even then they're not always successful. If you're not aware that you snore then what are you supposed to do? Like I said, it's just one of those things. I would certainly be angry about being woken up and wouldn't dream of waking anyone else.

If a person genuinely had no idea they snored, I think being woken up on a plane would lead to embarrassment rather than anger.

It may be inconvenient for the snorer to be woken, but I'm sure they'd appreciate that's a small price to let the other 20 people around them get some sleep.

 

[straitman]

It may be inconvenient for the snorer to be woken, but I'm sure they'd appreciate that's a small price to let the other 20 people around them get some sleep.

... and I'm sure you are wrong :!:

 

[MEL_Traveller]

... and I'm sure you are wrong :!:

If the person woken isn't mortified that might indicate a sense of entitlement. That would be disappointing

 

[theweaselsteve]

Waking someone up for snoring might also indicate a sense of entitlement.

 

[Pushka]

is snoring really 'just one of those things'? I thought side sleeping or stomach sleeping stopped snoring? Or get a cpap if you have apnea.

Side sleeping doesn't stop snoring if it's a nasal issue only if it involves the tongue falling back.

Waking someone up for snoring might also indicate a sense of entitlement.

Ah. Not really.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Waking someone up for snoring might also indicate a sense of entitlement.

Quite probably! That might be the entitlement 99% of the other passengers have to peace, quiet and relative harmony... as far as that's achievable in a cramped aircraft

 

[straitman]

If the person woken isn't mortified that might indicate a sense of entitlement. That would be disappointing

Let's agree to disagree.

Quite probably! That might be the entitlement 99% of the other passengers have to peace, quiet and relative harmony... as far as that's achievable in a cramped aircraft

If only it was that simple.

 

[Milboo]

If a person genuinely had no idea they snored, I think being woken up on a plane would lead to embarrassment rather than anger.

It may be inconvenient for the snorer to be woken, but I'm sure they'd appreciate that's a small price to let the other 20 people around them get some sleep.

And on what perfect plane is this? When everyone finishes their dinner, brushes their teeth and tucks themselves into their bed at the same time to fall asleep shortly thereafter so that the snorer can time their own sleep to that schedule and ensure everyone else is asleep first?

The person who thinks waking is appropriate has options available to them - earplugs, earphones, moving seats (if available) etc but I'd also be wanting to know why they don't have a better level of tolerance. They are in a cramped shared space with many other people so it is not going to be quiet like at home.

I get on a plane and other than a screaming baby in close proximity, honestly just zone everyone else out and not worry about what others are or are not doing. The only thing I can control in a plane is my reactions to other pax so chose not to worry about them.

 

[Moody]

If someone was kicking the back of my chair in their sleep I would have no hesitation in waking them. Would you?