Yes I know I'm in a bloody exit row!

[jdlover23]

Appreciate the 'jovial' tone of your email, however I've sat in many exit rows and I listen attentively and carefully to the spiel every time. I regard it as both showing respect to the in-flight crew and of course care and concern for my fellow passengers, in that I might assist them if need be. To anyone who doesn't want to listen, no matter how many times, I wholeheartedly recommend you do not sit in an exit and let those of us who are experts in the procedure take safety seriously.

Did you actually read my post!

Im happy to listen to the personal instructions whilst seated in the row and do every time, what i find frustrating is the insesant reminding before you get anywhere near your seat by all and sundry that im in an exit row

and the real reason for my post was the inconvenience of not being able to check in online when seated in an exit row - seems redundant that I cant check in online with the obvious multiple checks being carried out by everyone on the plane!

 

[stredinnick]

and the real reason for my post was the inconvenience of not being able to check in online

I'd rather they took a good look at you. You mentioned you are tall right? That actually bothers me a bit - if you get knocked out you are a bigger mass for everyone else to shift out of the way. I'd rather a shorter, smaller but stronger person be sitting there, provided they can lift that 15kg door either in or out as the case may be. Just an opinion.

 

[nonscenic]

You're probably just as annoyed by this just as much as hearing the 737 safety demonstration over and over (and let's not bring JT into this - that is not the argument). Do you tune out from the safety demo? Or do you think, "The next time I hear that stupid 737 safety video I'm going to poke someone in the eye"? What about at international check-in where the staff ask you whether you're carrying liquids, aerosols or gels greater than 100mL in your carry-on? Or whether you're carrying any dangerous goods? You're probably thinking, "I'm a Platinum and I've flown internationally before - what kind of idiot do you take me for?"

There's an hilarious spoof of the checkin counter spiel in one episode of "Come Fly with Me" (which I watched on Kris Flyer'e entertainment recently on the way to Moscow). The passenger answers that yes he has dangerous goods in his baggage, that someone else packed his case etc, and the check in assistant simply continues her spiel with "enjoy your flight and have a good day".

More seriously the whole process of written or spoken standard texts to keep the lawyers happy and cover your a*** has the opposite effect. Despite the safety videos and questioning about exit rows, if an incident actually happens do people actually know what to do? Certainly even on different Qantas aircraft, on some the person operating the exit door has to physically throw the door while on others it hinges when you pull the lever. So far, when sitting in 13A I haven't been courageous enough to ask the steward whether I can give it a try to see if I am capable of operating the door in an emergency

 

[Oneworldplus2]

I haven't mentioned status, or my status for that matter anywhere in my post

You don't need to mention it jdlover23. I think that serfty took your profile at face value


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[bryanjones]

Just wondering - on QF for my last international trip in exit rows all the way. Not mentioned at all, is it only a domestic thing? (Meanwhile around Europe BA mentioned it a lot on euro-euro trips)

 

[mannej]

Just wondering - on QF for my last international trip in exit rows all the way. Not mentioned at all, is it only a domestic thing? (Meanwhile around Europe BA mentioned it a lot on euro-euro trips)

I think it depends on the aircraft type. The 767's are a good example- briefings on the OG's but not the ZX's as there is a crew member sitting at the exit. That is my guess


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[medhead]

I haven't mentioned status, or my status for that matter anywhere in my post, (the fact i can select these seats more readily is inconsequential to my original issue of not being able to get a boarding pass without human interaction, if I was the one who selected the exit row over being auto allocated the seat) totally agree safety should be the only differentiator in the end

no you didn't. But other people did mention status. The fact remains that anyone, with whatever flying experience, could end up in an exit row and not be aware it is an exit row. The constant reminders are there for that reason. They have no way of knowing if you've flown 100 times or once and safety says they need to make sure you know you are in an exit row. You also need to see a person to get a BP so that they can assess you as being capable. I'm sure it saves much disruption dealing reseating with non capable people before they get on the aircraft. As mentioned a person's capabilities can change everyday - medical problems, injuries etc.

 

[simongr]

My concern for the people in these seats is not they state they start the flight in but the state that they finish the flight in. I think exit row passengers should not be served alcohol.

:shock: I guess a breathalyser when seated just in case they tucked in before the flight.

I'd rather they took a good look at you. You mentioned you are tall right? That actually bothers me a bit - if you get knocked out you are a bigger mass for everyone else to shift out of the way. I'd rather a shorter, smaller but stronger person be sitting there, provided they can lift that 15kg door either in or out as the case may be. Just an opinion.

OK so a strength test prior to boarding - say a barbell at the check in counter. Maybe need to test reactions as well - computer test perhaps. How would we test if they are a heavy sleeper? You know just in case they fall into a deep sleep before the accident. Probably need to do an EEG as well to check whether there is a risk their heart may fail in the event of a scary incident. Not sure how to test for potential stroke victims - any thoughts on that?

My understanding was that the pax are not the default people to open the emergency exit but a fall back if requested by crew. I agree the lack of OLCI is a pain given the other points of failure that you would be picked up.

 

[TonyHancock]

:shock: I guess a breathalyser when seated just in case they tucked in before the flight.

:shock: I'll never get an exit seat again!!

 

[nonscenic]

:shock: I guess a breathalyser when seated just in case they tucked in before the flight.



OK so a strength test prior to boarding - say a barbell at the check in counter. Maybe need to test reactions as well - computer test perhaps. How would we test if they are a heavy sleeper? You know just in case they fall into a deep sleep before the accident. Probably need to do an EEG as well to check whether there is a risk their heart may fail in the event of a scary incident. Not sure how to test for potential stroke victims - any thoughts on that?

My understanding was that the pax are not the default people to open the emergency exit but a fall back if requested by crew. I agree the lack of OLCI is a pain given the other points of failure that you would be picked up.

Perhaps the breathalyser could be done covertly by asking for a test inflation of the demonstration life-jacket

Seriously those with exit row seats should be able to OLCI and simply have boarding passes that were programmed to beep when scanned and alert staff to check on suitability at that point. One could well be sober at bag drop or when you first enter the QP but totally unable to assist by the time the boarding call is made.

 

[stredinnick]

:shock: - any thoughts on that?

All sensible, although costly, suggestions. But back to the OP's original post, is it really a big deal? I guess those three minutes out of the day count somewhere.