QF32 divert to DXB

[RB]

Another QF Story for the Press

Another QF story that I haven't seen on here yet. I like the tack on stuff

Qantas flight barred from Iraq airspace

 

[TheInsider]

Qantas flight barred from Iraq airspace | Herald Sun
A Qantas spokeswoman told AAP that Iraq air services would not allow the flight into Iraq air space on Monday as they did not "recognise the authority" who had pre-approved the flight path.

The QF32 flight had to divert to Dubai to refuel in order to allow for a different flight path........

The QF32 is the same flight number of the A380 Airbus which suffered an engine explosion flying from Singapore to Sydney on November 4 2010.

 

[serfty]

... politics ... interest groups ... I'm really cynical about this - I would assume someone in that country may have perceived an opportunity to exercise a little personal enhancement/reward and is "flexing their muscle" just to prove it.

ISTR was some Iraqi official(s) who decided not to accept sheep imports from Australia at one stage - in that case apparently someone decided to vary the prevalent specification for grease with little warning.

 

[oz_mark]

The QF32 is the same flight number of the A380 Airbus which suffered an engine explosion flying from Singapore to Sydney on November 4 2010.

What a moronic tack on.

 

[Sprucegoose]

... politics ... interest groups ... I'm really cynical about this - I would assume someone in that country may have perceived an opportunity to exercise a little personal enhancement/reward and is "flexing their muscle" just to prove it.

ISTR was some Iraqi official(s) who decided not to accept sheep imports from Australia at one stage - in that case apparently someone decided to vary the prevalent specification for grease with little warning.

Yes agree. It shows the perils and pitfalls of dealing with a less than Transparent people.

I have gone back to my Government sources to see if there is anything else to report here, but I would say your comment nails the issue.

 

[drron]

I thought these paragraphs at the end really took the cake for bad journalism-

The pilot managed to land the plane and nobody was injured in that incident.
Qantas is now completely confident Rolls Royce has fixed the engine fault on that jet.

OMG QF have pilots that can divert for fuel without hurting the plane or pax!!!!:shock::shock::shock:

 

[simongr]

Qf 32 is obviously cursed and I will never fly it again.

 

[NM]

What a moronic tack on.

And just imaging if it was QF31 - "Flight QF31, the one prior to the flight that exploded in mid-air with the captain managing to land the aircraft without injuries"

Or if it was QF10 - "Flight QF10, only 22 less than the flight that exploded in mid-air with the captain managing to land the aircraft without injuries"

You have to wonder just how often this happens to other airlines. Their flight plan lodgement authority must have been recognised by many other countries along the way, including Russia, China and likely Pakistan and India.

 

[Timba-Jet]

I saw this headline on sunrise this morning and assumed some technical problem with aircraft.

Such sensationalism to link this with the A380 engine issue. Thought the SMH had higher journalistic standards.

 

[drron]

Funny I just read the article on the No news site and it uses exactly the same words just leaving out a couple of lines.Still has that the pilot was able to land without any injuries.
They didn't let me down though with a picture of a 747.

 

[simongr]

You have to wonder just how often this happens to other airlines. Their flight plan lodgement authority must have been recognised by many other countries along the way, including Russia, China and likely Pakistan and India.

I think it is just reckless of QF to fly over Iraq any way - what about Al Qaeda??? Next you will be telling me they fly over Afghanistan!

 

[codash1099]

I think it is just reckless of QF to fly over Iraq any way - what about Al Qaeda??? Next you will be telling me they fly over Afghanistan!

Same over Egypt. You never know whether one of the stones being thrown will get to 10000 metres.

 

[anat0l]

I know that there are some "restrictions" related to flying over Iraq (well, every country has their right to be "restrictive" but I kept hearing some time ago that Iraq was a special/prickly case); can't remember what I was told about it, however...

What is the nominal flight path (or one of them) for QF32 LHR-SIN? I'm sure if someone wanted to shoot down any aircraft on a Trans-Eurasia route then that would be extremely simple unless you fly a more complicated flight path.

I wonder what kind of magic (apart from possibly the cash in the captain's wallet) QF would've had to pull to get ground service in DXB? And then once refuelled and restocked in DXB what would be the new flight path to get to SIN?

Without sounding too excited about the incident (because there is no reason to be so), I wish there was a photo of the QF A380 parked at DXB.

 

[simongr]

I wonder what kind of magic (apart from possibly the cash in the captain's wallet) QF would've had to pull to get ground service in DXB? And then once refuelled and restocked in DXB what would be the new flight path to get to SIN?

I can just imagine the Captain over the PA.

"Hi everyone, due to officials in Iraq requiring additional bribes we have to divert to Dubai. Given the refuelling costs and landing fees I was wondering if anyone had an Amex Centurion card we could 'put bbehind the bar' so to speak - you can keep the points you earn and QF will pay you very quickly..."

 

[medhead]

I think it is just reckless of QF to fly over Iraq any way - what about Al Qaeda??? Next you will be telling me they fly over Afghanistan!

I assume you are joking but in case not, if you look at my avatar you can see a picture of Afghanistan taken from QF5 in 2007.

I'm not sure what the bad guys in Iraq would have that could cause too much hassle of an aircraft cruising over the top.

 

[jb747]

You have to wonder just how often this happens to other airlines. Their flight plan lodgement authority must have been recognised by many other countries along the way, including Russia, China and likely Pakistan and India.

It happens. I was once following a Singair flight that was denied entry to one of the 'stans. It most commonly happens when a flight is late, and you have an aircraft with a D callsign (used by just about everyone for delayed flights). ATC decide that they don't recognise it, and either deny it entry, or force it to land somewhere. They aren't always the sharpest tools in the shed.

 

[jb747]

I know that there are some "restrictions" related to flying over Iraq (well, every country has their right to be "restrictive" but I kept hearing some time ago that Iraq was a special/prickly case); can't remember what I was told about it, however...

There is nothing particularly tricky about Iraq...other than getting the news out that you have overflight clearance.

What is the nominal flight path (or one of them) for QF32 LHR-SIN? I'm sure if someone wanted to shoot down any aircraft on a Trans-Eurasia route then that would be extremely simple unless you fly a more complicated flight path.

Numerous tracks are used depending upon the wind. Most common would be across the top of the Black Sea, through the middle of Afghanistan, into India and then across to coughet. But, you could take a track that takes you almost to Moscow, or alternatively one that goes across the eastern corner of the Med, and along the top of Saudi.

Out of Dubai the track would be the same as used by jumbos in the dim dark ages...straight across to India, passing just south of Mumbai, and then up to KL, and Singapore.

I wonder what kind of magic (apart from possibly the cash in the captain's wallet) QF would've had to pull to get ground service in DXB? And then once refuelled and restocked in DXB what would be the new flight path to get to SIN?

Dubai is an alternate for QF ops. Ground services are pre arranged and contracted. Passing through there is no big deal, and I think they've already had a couple of visits from QF 380s (one medical, and one around the time of the volcano).

 

[simongr]

I assume you are joking but in case not, if you look at my avatar you can see a picture of Afghanistan taken from QF5 in 2007.

I'm not sure what the bad guys in Iraq would have that could cause too much hassle of an aircraft cruising over the top.

Tongue planted very firmly in cheek

 

[SeaWolf]

The QF32 is the same flight number of the A380 Airbus which suffered an engine explosion flying from Singapore to Sydney on November 4 2010.

I know the Herald Sun didn't mean it this way, but I actually was surprised to hear that it was the same flight number. Usually airlines stop using a flight number and change it for that route if they have a major incident or accident on that flight number. Just a sort of superstitious thing.

 

[NM]

Dubai is an alternate for QF ops. Ground services are pre arranged and contracted. Passing through there is no big deal, and I think they've already had a couple of visits from QF 380s (one medical, and one around the time of the volcano).

At least there are plenty of A380-capable gates at Dubai. Would they have kept the passengers on-board, trying to minimise the time delay to ensure the crew did not go out of hours? Once you let the passengers into the terminal you risk delayed departure as some wander off "exploring".

Would re-fueling have been the only service function? Or would they also take on water, empty lavs etc? I expect no additional meal service requirements for such a diversion.