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[casanovawa]

No offence to anyone here, but a bit of Chopper Reid "HTFU" can do wonders as well and then you don't need to travel with half the pharmac_... I take pretty much nothing, a blow up pillow now and then that i have never in 4 years of travel bothered to blow up yet???

The rule seem to be all liquids have to be less than 100mLs and you can only have up to 10 items or 1 Litre and yes in clear plastic bags...

I also find just about everywhere has vaguely different rules... On domestic flights in Australia now it seems you can take deoderants over 100 mLs but don't try this on international flights... Probably best to just stick to the strictest rules and you won't have the aggravation of different standards at different locales...

I now always pack my deoderant in my checked luggage as I've had them taken off me out of my carry on previously for being over 100 mLs, but in La Paz after several flights of it being ok, i boarded a flight where i had a large bottle of body wash in my carry on i'd forgotten to put in checked luggage that i was sure they would take it off me and yet that got through and it was the deoderant in my checked luggage that they took off me?!?!?

Similarly i had an open bottle of alcohol that i had been carrying in my checked luggage across several countries/continents before at Livingstone airport in Zambia they took it off me for controvening their local laws of no open alcohol in checked luggage (i had run into this elsewhere as well, i think Bali???)... Lessons learnt, almost nothing is too stupid for all the rules today and you can guarantee some places will invent some stupid ones you have never heard of/not prepared for and catch you out and you'll lose some items..

 

[Austman]

On domestic flights in Australia now it seems you can take deoderants over 100 mLs but don't try this on international flights... Probably best to just stick to the strictest rules and you won't have the aggravation of different standards at different locales...

On domestic flights in Australia leaving from a domestic terminal the LAGs carry-on restrictions (ie the max 100ml size/ max 1L total) don't apply at all (and never did AFAIK).

 

[leemin]

No offence to anyone here, but a bit of Chopper Reid "HTFU" can do wonders as well and then you don't need to travel with half the pharmac_...

HTFU? I'm happy to do my bit to support the jobs in the Australian pharmaceutical industry!

 

[Stargazer]

Hi,

I now always pack my deoderant in my checked luggage as I've had them taken off me out of my carry on previously for being over 100 mLs, but in La Paz after several flights of it being ok, i boarded a flight where i had a large bottle of body wash in my carry on i'd forgotten to put in checked luggage that i was sure they would take it off me and yet that got through and it was the deoderant in my checked luggage that they took off me?!?!?

This thread is really interesting and eye opening. I am new to travel so the requirements to travel with less 100 mls (deodorant etc) is revealing. While I can accept this in hand luggage, what I don't understand is that is you can have an item in your checked luggage (say deodorant over 100mls) removed??? So from a newbie's perspective what you are really advising is not to have anything over 100 mls? in either checked or hand luggage. Where's the logic in all of this?

Secondly what are the rules for carrying alcohol in hand luggage -- it would appear this is not permitted. So if you buy alcohol in the duty free store before your last flight home (checked baggage has already gone through) -- and all you have is your hand luggage -- how do you handle the problem of carrying alcohol which would be more than 100mls?

 

[Mh4k]

I've done this run more times than I care to remember. Probably the most helpful thing you can bring is $1500 or so to pay for the on-the-day upgrade to Business Class

Failing that... a better eye mask, a set of Shure canal phones or a high-density set of earplugs, a hoody, your own toothbrush and quality toothpaste, a small travel bottle of mouthwash, travel-sized deodorant, moisturiser, clean socks, underwear and a clean t-shirt (I typically get changed immediately after boarding for the second leg), an iPad and, most critically of all, prescription sedatives.

I usually aim for a few hours sleep on the SYD -> AUH leg and then sleep for the entire AUH -> LHR leg. On the way back I get a few hours rest LHR -> AUH and then sleep for the last six hours before arrival at SYD (assuming you are landing into both London and Sydney around 7am).

 

[harvyk]

Hi,


This thread is really interesting and eye opening. I am new to travel so the requirements to travel with less 100 mls (deodorant etc) is revealing. While I can accept this in hand luggage, what I don't understand is that is you can have an item in your checked luggage (say deodorant over 100mls) removed??? So from a newbie's perspective what you are really advising is not to have anything over 100 mls? in either checked or hand luggage. Where's the logic in all of this?

If a LAG is over 100ml's you need to put it in your checked luggage. However checked luggage is not secure thus don't put anything in there which is valuable, this includes booze if possible.

Secondly what are the rules for carrying alcohol in hand luggage -- it would appear this is not permitted. So if you buy alcohol in the duty free store before your last flight home (checked baggage has already gone through) -- and all you have is your hand luggage -- how do you handle the problem of carrying alcohol which would be more than 100mls?

If the bottle is below 100mls (eg one of the 30ml bottles you get at hotels) then it's not a problem. Purchasing DF alcohol prior to your flight back to Australia is not a problem provided that the airport does not to LAG checks at the gate (eg HKG) and you don't have a stopover en-route prior to entering Australia for example LAX-AKL-MEL on QF26 you could not purchase DF LAGs over 100ml in LAX as they would be taken off you in AKL, but you can purchase DF LAG's in AKL after transit security or in MEL.

Another example to watch out for would be QF8, DFW-BNE-SYD, you could not purchase DF LAG's in DFW however you could purchase them in either BNE after transit security or in SYD as technically SYD is the port that you enter Australia, not BNE.

It's an idea to be very clear on the specific LAG rules for all your flights prior to travel because the DF shop attendant does not necessarily know which flights LAG rules will trip people up on and may give dud advice.

Of course you can alway post up flight details here and we'd be more than happy to tell you where you can and can't buy DF.

 

[casanovawa]

Be careful with alcohol, its expensive to lose unlike a little spray bottle of deoderant...

Not sure what there problem was in La Paz or whether someone was being a bit over officious but there was a presidential election going on and there were guards at the airport and taxis couldn't take you up to the terminal, they had to drop you off at the road and you walk to the terminal after going through some security check before you could even enter the airport grounds?!?! But i travelled practically everywhere with bottles of over 100mLs in my checked in luggage (body wash, sunscreen, alcohol etc) and it was fine... What i was referring to is if you are on a long trip you can usually expect to get pulled up for something somewhere and it will be another thing they catch you out on that you weren't expecting, hopefully its just a cheap item that you have forgotten or they take issue with...

I only buy alcohol if i have access to my checked luggage as never tried buying it in store and then having it delivered to beyond the security point for pick up etc.. Too easy to misunderstand the requirements and where the final liquids check will be (ie at security or at the gate) and get it confiscated and then its $20-40 per bottle down the drain or into the security people's drinking fund... If my bags aren't going to be checked back through to Oz i just buy it in Australia when i arrive even if its not going to be the best price, which i never can really be bothered trying to work out where in the world the cheapest bourbon or vodka is available... But if you open a bottle and then try to travel with it in your checked in luggage there is the chance they will take it off you...

 

[serfty]

HTFU? I'm happy to do my bit to support the jobs in the Australian pharmaceutical industry!

For those unaware of this acrynym: (Warning NSFW)

Chopper Reid - Harden the cough up, Australia - YouTube

 

[Stargazer]

If a LAG is over 100ml's you need to put it in your checked luggage

I know we were talking about liquids but what does LAG mean??? Sorry for the stupidity

 

[TonyHancock]

I know we were talking about liquids but what does LAG mean??? Sorry for the stupidity

Liquids, Aerosols, Gels

 

[casanovawa]

Now what is that "NSFW" acronym in the warning about the YouTube "HTFU" acronym???

Ahhh yes, not suitable for work...

You could always tell workmates that there may be a little lite bad language in the clip that may cause offence... And if so they might want to try a muggacino of HTFU... Or words to that effect...

 

[MEL_Traveller]

So next Tuesday I leave for my first overseas trip. Off to Europe for a couple of weeks. Pretty exciting.

However, notwithstanding my complete lack of prior experience, AFF has raised the standard I wish to travel internationally. :shock:

Unfortunately, my budget is very much 15-career-years behind my desires (who's isn't I guess?)-: I'm flying Etihad metal (VA codeshare) whY from MEL to LHR and back via Abu Dhabi.

I currently don't have any status (although will move to Velocity Silver after this trip - yippee) so have prepared a little survival kit for myself based on what I've read here on AFF:

- Real food from Cafe Vue
- Comfy clothes (but no Qantas J PJ's)
- Aisle seats so I can stretch out just that little bit more. Pending foot amputation by serving trolley.
- A neck pillow. Supplied pillow goes on the floor under my feet.
- Bose active noise cancelling headphones
- Purchasing access to the Al Dana lounge at Abu Dhabi airport for shower etc. 28 USD.

Have I missed anything? Has anyone else got any tips?

you must be getting ready to leave! just saw this thread but essential is a pair of scholl flight socks... they absolutely mean complete comfort... no sore legs, no swollen feet... no aching and itching to move after sitting upright for a few hours.

available at any pharmac_, but must also be available at the airport now. other brands are available and I guess work just as well?

enjoy your flight!!

 

[leemin]

you must be getting ready to leave! just saw this thread but essential is a pair of scholl flight socks... they absolutely mean complete comfort... no sore legs, no swollen feet... no aching and itching to move after sitting upright for a few hours.

available at any pharmac_, but must also be available at the airport now. other brands are available and I guess work just as well?

enjoy your flight!!

I certainly am. Thanks. I actually did get some Scholl flight socks. Good to hear they're worth it!

 

[MEL_Traveller]

I certainly am. Thanks. I actually did get some Scholl flight socks. Good to hear they're worth it!

definitely a great buy... cant understand why everyone doesn't have them!

 

[Tortuga]

Mentally preparing for a full day of travel mañana. 7 hours on a bus (in cama) followed by 12 hours on Iberia EZE > MAD, 2 hour layover followed by 2.5 hours MAD > LPA.. All in whY (whY my company is so cheap is the real question :evil.

The bus could have been avoided if Aerolineas Argentina could manage to fly their planes on time, it's sad that I can't rely on them. I don't mind the new embraer jets. Unable to find a eye mask so far, you would think somewhere in EZE there must be a place that sells them, unfortunately not from what I have seen. I threw out my "all natural natures own" sleeping pills and will be asking the pharmacist for something that will actually do something. The problem with the alcohol method is the hangover, not sure on the quality of red wine served in whY and I will be expected to work the day after my arrival. Hoping for an exit row to help dull the pain.

To all the long haul whY travellers, I am with you in spirit. If you see a guy slouched over with his head on his knees trying to sleep that's probably me. I manage to do a full session of yoga trying to get comfortable enough to sleep, unfortunately comfort has eluded me so far (sitting on the floor with the seatbelt under my arms wasn't a good solution either for those who may want to try it) - the smell from nearby feet didn't help. If all this fails I will take a large glass of HTFU.

 

[leemin]

Thanks all. Well after my first leg, I have established that my new two best things in life are: 1) noise cancelling headphones; and 2) Scholl flight socks.

I was able to sleep, had a fairly relaxing flight (despite bring delayed by Melbourne Airport for 3 hours!), and no sore legs or restlessness at all. Pleasantly surprised.

 

[JohnK]

I really don't bother taking any stuff with me on a flight except for a couple of pills that I may need along the way.

- Comfy clothes (but no Qantas J PJ's)

Some people's definition of comfortable clother leaves a lot to be desired but thank God Qantas is the only airline that hands out pyjamas. Or I hope it is the only airline. Travelled on TG in business class recently and not a single person in pyjamas during the flight.

 

[straitman]

I really don't bother taking any stuff with me on a flight except for a couple of pills that I may need along the way.


Some people's definition of comfortable clother leaves a lot to be desired but thank God Qantas is the only airline that hands out pyjamas. Or I hope it is the only airline. Travelled on TG in business class recently and not a single person in pyjamas during the flight.

I have some SIA PJs.

 

[JohnK]

I have some SIA PJs.

Really? I may have to find some really good eye shades and use them for my first flight on SQ business class in January.

There is a time and place for pyjamas and on an aircraft in public view is not one of them....

 

[straitman]

I have some SIA PJs.

Really? I may have to find some really good eye shades and use them for my first flight on SQ business class in January.

There is a time and place for pyjamas and on an aircraft in public view is not one of them....

OK then lets just call then SQ tracksuits :!:

(A lot better quality than the QF ones I own)