Ban the hi vis gear in business lounge!

[Scrimo]

So tired of this.... really is that hard to say no hi vis gear. :evil:

Why should the overall look and feel of a business class lounge feel like a construction site?

Come on QF lets have some standards.

 

[Virgin Bart]

So tired of this.... really is that hard to say no hi vis gear. :evil:

Why should the overall look and feel of a business class lounge feel like a construction site?

Come on QF lets have some standards.

Wow, you've just opened up a can of worms second only to "Qantas/Virgin is much better than Qantas/Virgin"!

 

[jazza1971]

What, does it make your eyes hurt or something, or is it the fact that all those extra people are using the lounge......I'd be guessing they have as much right to be in the lounge and enjoy the benefits as you, but I'm assuming it's part of their employment conditions that they have to wear them when flying to and from site?....and no I'm not a high vis wearer

 

[amaroo]

So tired of this.... really is that hard to say no hi vis gear. :evil:

Why should the overall look and feel of a business class lounge feel like a construction site?

Come on QF lets have some standards.

Little late to the party - posted to death on many other threads.

 

[munitalP]

Yes agreed. Mods should close this down.

 

[elbarto]

Yeah this is just dumb. If you don't like it go elsewhere. Chances are, you'll win up with the same problem. Life wasn't meant to be fair.


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[Geoffm]

So i'm different on Monday when I have to go on site, compared to Tuesday when I go to a another meeting? ( one I have to wear hi vis and the other a suit)

 

[markis10]

Yeah this is just dumb. If you don't like it go elsewhere. Chances are, you'll win up with the same problem. Life wasn't meant to be fair.


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Would you say the same if someone was to walk into a hatted restaurant in stubbies? The question being is smart casual dress rules being enforced as per the QP rules, or is a blind eye being turned in preference to attracting the $$$? Is it to much to ask someone to change their clothes to meet the rules?

10.7 Smart, casual dress standards apply at all times. Individual lounge managers will have discretion to administer these standards as they reasonably deem appropriate in the circumstances.

 

[PP1]

The post is not about entitlement to the lounge or the profession of the members, it's basic courtesy. If you work on site, you don't need to travel in your site gear. Sometimes I travel for sport and I don't kick back in the lounge in my speedo's.

It's a valid post and is becoming an increasing irritation for many

 

[muppet]

The post is not about entitlement to the lounge or the profession of the members, it's basic courtesy. If you work on site, you don't need to travel in your site gear. Sometimes I travel for sport and I don't kick back in the lounge in my speedo's.

It's a valid post and is becoming an increasing irritation for many

100% agreed. Workers that require high vis gear are welcome to their access in the lounge, just not in their work uniform? it's not that hard.
I used to work in a smallgoods factory, I wouldn't wear my blood and soot covered overalls on the train home, I'd shower and change then go home.

 

[ashleyn]

Been done to death, no more please.

 

[amaroo]

It's just another form of public transport. If you can afford it, there are other options available.

QF seem to have a healthy addiction to the VIS & I can't see that changing anytime soon.

 

[DC3]

100% agreed. Workers that require high vis gear are welcome to their access in the lounge, just not in their work uniform? it's not that hard.
I used to work in a smallgoods factory, I wouldn't wear my blood and soot covered overalls on the train home, I'd shower and change then go home.

Exactly. Work gear is for the workplace.

 

[drron]

Would you say the same if someone was to walk into a hatted restaurant in stubbies? The question being is smart casual dress rules being enforced as per the QP rules, or is a blind eye being turned in preference to attracting the $$$? Is it to much to ask someone to change their clothes to meet the rules?

I detest people who wear their hats in restaurants!
:shock:

 

[Hawka]

Ok so if I'm to go to site (hi-vis) for a day trip from Perth I will need to take a change of busniess clothes to enter the QP?

If you fly enough for work to earn the QP then I believe your entitled to wear your work clothes be it business or hi-vis (obviously if your clothes are clean)

 

[drron]

I bet this miner gets into the QP or The Lounge-

 

[Danger]

While this topic has come up before, the fact it continues to do so is, I believe, a reflection of ongoing sentiment towards a change.

Would you say the same if someone was to walk into a hatted restaurant in stubbies? The question being is smart casual dress rules being enforced as per the QP rules, or is a blind eye being turned in preference to attracting the $$$? Is it to much to ask someone to change their clothes to meet the rules?

That's a very good analogy and I think it sums it up perfectly.

The post is not about entitlement to the lounge or the profession of the members, it's basic courtesy. If you work on site, you don't need to travel in your site gear. Sometimes I travel for sport and I don't kick back in the lounge in my speedo's.

It's a valid post and is becoming an increasing irritation for many

100% agreed. Workers that require high vis gear are welcome to their access in the lounge, just not in their work uniform? it's not that hard.
I used to work in a smallgoods factory, I wouldn't wear my blood and soot covered overalls on the train home, I'd shower and change then go home.

Also agreed.

When I first achieved WP it dawned on me that torn jeans were not appropriate attire for the J lounge. In fact, with the benefit of hindsight, I don't believe such clothing is appropriate in the Qantas Club, either.

The T&Cs state smart casual (or similar). That's for the benefit of all. It's not an issue of entitlement to be in the lounge; it's behaviour and presentation when in it.

Ok so if I'm to go to site (hi-vis) for a day trip from Perth I will need to take a change of busniess clothes to enter the QP?

If you fly enough for work to earn the QP then I believe your entitled to wear your work clothes be it business or hi-vis (obviously if your clothes are clean)

Welcome to AFF.

Firstly, this thread relates to J lounges. Perth has only a Qantas Club.

Secondly, as the above analogy highlights, I don't believe any of the Australian swim team wear their bathers in the lounge. And while I recognise that, possibly in contrast to some mine workers who literally arrive at their worksite, I'd be very surprised if the majority of the hi-vis wearers in the lounges actually do. For example, I know there are some direct flights from Perth to minesites but I would hazard a guess that the majority arrive at an airport (like Karratha or Port Hedland) before going to the site.

Thirdly, as I mentioned above, it's not about entitlement to be in the lounge. That's not the issue. Similarly, we don't debate the entitlement or otherwise of the loud-talking businessman on his mobile phone or the old lady with BO; we do, however, debate their conduct.

 

[Bugalugz]

So your saying ban the General Managers, CEO's etc of the mining companys who wear HI VIS to site when they fly? the people who keep Qantas in the sky and make decisions as to what airline they will fly with?

Fail.

 

[drron]

The T&Cs state smart casual (or similar). That's for the benefit of all. It's not an issue of entitlement to be in the lounge; it's behaviour and presentation when in it.


Thirdly, as I mentioned above, it's not about entitlement to be in the lounge. That's not the issue. Similarly, we don't debate the entitlement or otherwise of the loud-talking businessman on his mobile phone or the old lady with BO; we do, however, debate their conduct.

Well said.To me this should be the final word on the subject.
Those that wear Hi Vis just need to be aware that they are highly visible so anything they do is likely to be noticed.
My experiences are that those in Hi Vis are no more or less likely to disrupt a lounge than others.
Just to backup the dont judge a book by its cover was an experience we had on QF2 BKK-SYD.On board were the Kangaroos on the way home from Europe.We found ourselves to be the only non footballers on the Upper deck of the 747.It was one of the most pleasant flights we have had in the way of interaction with other pax.They were quiet,pleasant,courteous and really scrubbed up well when they put on their jackets and ties.It did look a little out of place though with Sam Thaiday and his tie.In the QP preflight if a footballer used his phone they went outside-not so the suits-male and female.

 

[rowdy]

If you want to split hairs then those in Suits should also be required to change before gaining entry. A suit isn't 'Smart Casual'.