Ban the hi vis gear in business lounge!

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I am in the Perth QP right now.

You wouldn't believe it. There is a guy sitting across from me and he has the top TWO buttons of his business shirt undone. I am at the point of asking him to button up. What is this? A male strip joint?

Seriously though - I have lurked on these forums for a while now and always expected my first post to be... Somewhat more important... I can't believe that it is something this ridiculous that has made me respond.

I should probably leave now, I'm wearing blue trade pants. I'm surprised they let me in.

This is clearly a first world problem if i've ever heard of one.

The original post refers to the Business lounge, don't really care what they wear in the QP lounge. Of course with Perth not yet having a J lounge I guess you don't have a choice:)
 
I am in the Perth QP right now.

You wouldn't believe it. There is a guy sitting across from me and he has the top TWO buttons of his business shirt undone. I am at the point of asking him to button up. What is this? A male strip joint?

Seriously though - I have lurked on these forums for a while now and always expected my first post to be... Somewhat more important... I can't believe that it is something this ridiculous that has made me respond.

I should probably leave now, I'm wearing blue trade pants. I'm surprised they let me in.

This is clearly a first world problem if i've ever heard of one.

Welcome to AFF.The only really important things we discuss here is points accumulation and how to get the most out of those points.
At all other times we are as shallow as any non mileage runner would believe of us.
 
As an aside I find it strange to see people in military uniform travelling on public transport

What is even more stange is defence staff wearing cam uniform on base with Hi Vis vest. Kind of defeats the purpose. Much like the camoflouged fire tender with red flashing lights.

Meloz
 
We need another bossreggie lunch to plan for and keep us occupied. Boredom has set in and the inane is now taking over
 
Personally as someone who wears Hi-Vis on a daily basis, I would love to see it banned from all lounges and why not one step further. Ban it from the terminal as well.
Basically if your not working there why wear it.
Hi-Vis has virtually become an indicator of officialdom in the public area for some reason.
If flying for business i change out of hi-vis and don a corporate shirt (Dark blue in my case)when flyin domestic. Internationally even if on business, def. casual. Never show which corp. I work for


AMEN!

As a sometime high-vis wearer this is my exact point.

FFS I can't stand people who have to make everything a case of elites v bogans.

High vis gear is ugly cough and nobody needs to wear it unless needing to be highly visible.

I was in England recently and saw a line of school children on an excursion wearing it.

Our adventurous and buccaneering lands have been beset by safety sams and susans.
 
AMEN!

As a sometime high-vis wearer this is my exact point.

FFS I can't stand people who have to make everything a case of elites v bogans.

High vis gear is ugly cough and nobody needs to wear it unless needing to be highly visible.

I was in England recently and saw a line of school children on an excursion wearing it.

Our adventurous and buccaneering lands have been beset by safety sams and susans.

I guess thats your opinion.
I couldn't give a rats.
 
High vis gear is ugly cough and nobody needs to wear it unless needing to be highly visible.

No argument from me on that.

I, like others here, fly to mine sites for meetings that last a couple of hours or so, I am obliged to wear a hi vis shirt to meet site rules. Typically i leave BNE or PER early in the morning and return later in the day. I don't have facilities at the mine to change.

Are you suggesting that those in this position be denied access to lounges? If so I think it would upset a number of significant QF/DJ customers. These days most of my domestic travel is with DJ so I'm rarely found in the QF J lounges but it does happen occasionally.

I think the bigger issue going forward will lounge crowding created by the increase in WP's from the great QF double SC giveaway.
 
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FFS I can't stand people who have to make everything a case of elites v bogans.

Actually you're the only one doing that. That you think this is about such a divide tells us a lot. What i'm saying is one can't ban people if they are wearing certain neat and tidy clothes; That clothes do not define who should be banned. Pure and simple. No need to distract from that by pretending this is about something irrelevant.
 
Agree with the inference as to the type of place (I have had lunch there) but its irrelevant, and I used it to counter the example that it's the "private clubs" that are leading the way with a perceived snobbish attitude to such dress, another example would be Eden Park where high vis won't get you into see a game of footy through general admission let alone in the corporate areas. At the end of the day it's the Qantas manager who has the right to admit persons as they see fit whether we like it or not, and we need to accept the refs call on that one!

I think you missed my point. I was making the point that some people want their WP to mean something much more than it actually is - they want it to be a super-exclusive club so that they can feel more important/more exclusive or as though they've "made it", in the same way that some people join the super-exclusive private clubs. In fact, this is what QF want you to feel, because they run the clubs as a commercial decision to support their airline business.

For the person for whom WP is their private club, hi-viz in the lounge somehow reminds them that it's actually not a super-exclusive club - it reminds them that they let all walks of life in here, even miners, and with that, the club doesn't feel so super-exclusive any more. Rather than re-evaluating their belief system, it sometimes is easier to just outgroup those people and blame them for "cheapening" the lounge.

That was what I was getting at. Whether the Caboolture Sports Club bans hi-viz doesn't change this at all.

The reality is that WP and the Business Lounge is something you can access by flying either a lot or via expensive tickets, making these people commercially valuable to QF. It's not a super-exclusive private club - it's a lounge designed to built customer loyalty. So why get so upset about another person that has a similar level of status credits as you (or possibly more!) that may be enjoying the lounge, and why does that cheapen your experience?

Banning people that behave badly - absolutely. Banning people on the basis of what they wear as a surrogate for what sort of person you think they are or assuming that they won't behave in a certain way on the basis of what they're wearing - that's problematic.
 
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