Ban the hi vis gear in business lounge!

[markis10]

Given the work experience students employed in QF's web development and the dizzying rate of decline of English language standards, I strongly suspect that not only did the person that put the comma there not understand the impact it might have on the interpretation but also that their grasp of what a comma was and is for is limited to point of not being existent.

Not, sure, what, you, are, inferring :mrgreen:

 

[Deleted member]

Given the work experience students employed in QF's web development and the dizzying rate of decline of English language standards, I strongly suspect that not only did the person that put the comma there not understand the impact it might have on the interpretation but also that their grasp of what a comma was and is for is limited to point of not being existent.

Is this leading. A : your, you're, yore. There, their, they're, & a to, too, two debate ?

 

[Canny man]

As a Brit I find this thread fascinating. I actually thought it was one of the attributes of Oz that people are less 'up themselves' about deciding what's appropriate or not.
If I get this right, a neatly pressed, long sleeve shirt with a collar is somehow less approriate than a polo shirt with short sleeves because it comes in a flouro colour. I find some bright pink polo shirts hurtful. Perhaps the fashion police could advise which other colours they would like banned.

 

[simongr]

Markis10 - I refer you to this page:

Eligibility and Access to The Qantas Club lounges

GPH I do not think we need a debate on that topic as I am sure that we are all aware of the appropriate use of an apostrophe and the difference between there and their...

 

[SeatBackForward]

I find some bright pink polo shirts hurtful.

See I told you, they hurted my eyes!

 

[Deleted member]

Markis10 - I refer you to this page:

Eligibility and Access to The Qantas Club lounges

GPH I do not think we need a debate on that topic as I am sure that we are all aware of the appropriate use of an apostrophe and the difference between there and their...

Actually, I beg to differ.

 

[oz_mark]

Given the work experience students employed in QF's web development and the dizzying rate of decline of English language standards, I strongly suspect that not only did the person that put the comma there not understand the impact it might have on the interpretation but also that their grasp of what a comma was and is for is limited to point of not being existent.

I'd be thoroughly surprised if a work experience student in web development was responsible for the Terms and Conditions of the Qantas Club.

 

[medhead]

Given the work experience students employed in QF's web development and the dizzying rate of decline of English language standards, I strongly suspect that not only did the person that put the comma there not understand the impact it might have on the interpretation but also that their grasp of what a comma was and is for is limited to point of not being existent.

Actually, the comma is in the terms and conditions. I doubt they were published without the approval of a lawyer who would know exactly the impact.


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[amaroo]

As a Brit I find this thread fascinating. I actually thought it was one of the attributes of Oz that people are less 'up themselves' about deciding what's appropriate or not.
If I get this right, a neatly pressed, long sleeve shirt with a collar is somehow less approriate than a polo shirt with short sleeves because it comes in a flouro colour. I find some bright pink polo shirts hurtful. Perhaps the fashion police could advise which other colours they would like banned.

Australia, egalitarian society - as long as you're not wearing a flouro shirt.

 

[SeatBackForward]

Australia, egalitarian society - as long as you're not wearing a flouro shirt.

I don't know why you limit yourself to eating eagles..

 

[ajca]

Actually, the comma is in the terms and conditions. I doubt they were published without the approval of a lawyer who would know exactly the impact.

Exactly. Not much happens at big companies - particularly in highly regulated industries e.g. airlines - without approval of a lawyer.

In any case, I hope someone raises this 'high-vis gear in Qantas lounges' issue in court so we can watch a whole bunch of lawyers try to parse the definition of "smart, casual" until it turns into a Clintonesque debate over the intent and meaning of a comma.

Given the work experience students employed in QF's web development and the dizzying rate of decline of English language standards, I strongly suspect that not only did the person that put the comma there not understand the impact it might have on the interpretation but also that their grasp of what a comma was and is for is limited to point of not being existent.

Have you ever met any of the QF web development people? There are seriously smart and professional people who work in that team, which is why all Qantas's web systems work very well compared to many other airlines.

Sure, there are some things that could be better but I think you would find that most of these are the result legacy IT systems that are hard to replace or external IT systems that QF doesn't control.

I doubt they would ever let work experience students go anywhere near their production environments, not to mention write Terms & Conditions for Qantas Club.

 

[simongr]

Just a couple of responses.

I haven't met any of the QF web team and my jibe reflected back to the situation we had when it was AFF doing beta testing of the changes to the QF website when they "updated" lounge access rules. What was put up on the website was wrong, misleading and frequently contradictory. Frankly it looked like a one eyed monkey had simply bashed their computer keys during the upload.

For clarity my comment of work experience kids was meant to be a negative term to describe the poor quality of information that has been uploaded to the QF website at times.

For further clarity there is a big distinction between writing the T&Cs and uploading the text of the T&Cs to the website. I would be fairly confident that none of the lawyers uploaded the text that they drafted. The process in big companies for web content generally goes like: Marketing come up with a concept, accountants cost back to reality, lawyers stop it being illegal, marketing then get another shot to make sure their original message still exists, legal get another shot and finally IT may or may not get the final version from the right person to upload. Those people doing the final upload have been known to "fix" mistakes they spot - such as a missing comma in a list of traits about the style of clothes to wear in a QP...

 

[medhead]

And no one, especially the lawyers checks the published version is correct? That would seem to be part of the make sure it's legal bit, IMO (only).


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[Paddy55]

I'm in the SYD J lounge right now and there are two Gents from the Army next to me in their fatigues.

I find their camouflaged uniform repulsively offensive so I'm torn between asking them to change into a more appropriate attire or rounding up a team of private school educated fellow platinums to chase them out armed with pitchforks.


Greg.

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I've a son in the army... It's a shame you can't have a little more pride in the military. I'll bet their fatigues were clean and pressed.

 

[simongr]

And no one, especially the lawyers checks the published version is correct? That would seem to be part of the make sure it's legal bit, IMO (only).
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It depends on how much information is being sent out/uploaded, how thorough the review is - it might even only be a sample check rather than 1 for 1...

And we know from the LHR lounge access for QP and kids that the process at QF is not working well.

 

[drron]

It really is time we put this to bed.The only time I would object to someone wearing their work gear into the QP would be if it was the dishonourable Peter Slipper in his Speaker's garb-I would walk out.
And if next year I do fly into KTA I will walk into the Perth QP in my golf shorts and my Fanatics polo shirt in bright yellow,aqua,pink and purple with FANATIC across the chest.Then none of you will notice the Hi vis pax at all.

 

[DC3]

I'll bet their fatigues were clean and pressed.

Fatigues. That must be the Can't-See-Me Suit, is it?

 

[11sjw]

I've a son in the army... It's a shame you can't have a little more pride in the military. I'll bet their fatigues were clean and pressed.

Yes, but they're as "smart, casual" as freshly laundered Hi Vis gear.

 

[medhead]

Fatigues. That must be the Can't-See-Me Suit, is it?

Must be. Fatigues is really a misnomer in the Australian military context as the same DPU is used as both dress of the day and as "fatigues". Just that the dirty, cough one will be used for dirty jobs and out bush and a good one is kept for wearing in public.


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[medhead]

Yes, but they're as "smart, casual" as freshly laundered Hi Vis gear.

True, since the uniform is formal it can't be casual.


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