10,000 bonus points per 20 transactions

[drewbles]

Uh, that's 4 times for the month, so once/week = 4 transactions

*hides in the corner*

I actually realised that in the shower this morning and thought "i'm an idiot"

I also got the 10k/December card (and have been confirmed as being on the 10T/5K Uncapped promo by AMEX on Monday, with no points to have hit at all yet).

 

[Flashback]

The Tap Inn

• They accepted Amex; we later found out that there was a minimum of sorts. One of our own tried to purchase a single beer on Amex and was told that wasn't enough to be put on the card. The solution? Buy two beers!

I wonder who that was..

 

[hairykewell]

still no bonus points being posted as of this stage despite the 10 weeks period being today....

it was 10 weeks (yesterday) since the last points posted but is it 10 weeks since your last block of 5/10 transactions? I'll be making a call on Monday if I haven't received any points by then. My 10 weeks is on the 7th December

 

[glass]

Haven't gone back to that one since, and have found another 7/11 that I can use for the next month, until the owner meets me that is....

Ive found the same with many 7/11 around here too. Either a min $ or a surcharge of $1 etc.

 

[glass]

What cut off? The various programs that are restricting "independent" transfers to QF stop at the end of march possibly.

Please remember that this is an Amex promo so the restrictions of other companies are irrelevant.

This has been mentioned multiple times and people insist on ignoring it sadly. It is a sad reflection of the economy that they have time to debate erroneous facts and not add to facts.

It may be irrelevant to you, but for anyone who intends to use points for QFF it's absolutely relevant. Why am I paying surcharges etc if I'm going to end up with points in MR I can't/won't use? No I'm not going to get a toaster 'worth $500' with my points cuz my $30 one works fine. All other awards are overpriced, as is their $1=100pt agent.

 

[oz_mark]

It may be irrelevant to you, but for anyone who intends to use points for QFF it's absolutely relevant. Why am I paying surcharges etc if I'm going to end up with points in MR I can't/won't use? No I'm not going to get a toaster 'worth $500' with my points cuz my $30 one works fine. All other awards are overpriced, as is their $1=100pt agent.

Unless I am somehow mistaken (which could be ), the cutoff to QFF is more than 10 weeks after the promotion concludes, so all the points should have been paid by that point in time.

If not, then things could get messy!

 

[straitman]

Unless I am somehow mistaken (which could be ), the cutoff to QFF is more than 10 weeks after the promotion concludes, so all the points should have been paid by that point in time.

If not, then things could get messy!

oz_mark,

From where I'm sitting you are absolutely correct. The only problem, at this point, is the paranoia effecting some people around here.

 

[beardoc]

Ive found the same with many 7/11 around here too. Either a min $ or a surcharge of $1 etc.

Has anyone found any 7/11s (or other convenience stores not connected to petrol stations) in Sydney that don't have a minimum transaction of $5? I'm having trouble finding any - so am having to seek out petrol stations all the time.

 

[edman]

Unless I am somehow mistaken (which could be ), the cutoff to QFF is more than 10 weeks after the promotion concludes, so all the points should have been paid by that point in time.

If not, then things could get messy!

I guess some of the people who were kicked off the 5k/5t promo would be concerned about whether or not any action by the BFSO would see their entitlements restored prior to the 31 March deadline for transfer to Qantas.

I was in a similar situation where I didn't get to transfer as many points as I wanted to for the Virgin Atlantic bonus (I only received one lot of 5k which was later POC'd).

 

[js]

I guess some of the people who were kicked off the 5k/5t promo would be concerned about whether or not any action by the BFSO would see their entitlements restored prior to the 31 March deadline for transfer to Qantas.

I for one have been a bit worried about this. Somewhat tempted to take up the $600 Platinum charge card offer just as a bit of insurance that points will be transferable to QF on the off chance this all drags on past 31 March...

 

[JohnK]

From where I'm sitting you are absolutely correct. The only problem, at this point, is the paranoia effecting some people around here.

It is not just the paranoia. I find it unbelieveable the lengths that some people will resort to in order to get an eligible Amex transaction.

And for the gazillionth time Amex is not responsible for the duration of the 25% bonus Velocity promotion nor is Amex responsible for the 31 March cutoff date when Qantas is leaving the Ascent MR program.

 

[edman]

It is not just the paranoia. I find it unbelieveable the lengths that some people will resort to in order to get an eligible Amex transaction.

And for the gazillionth time Amex is not responsible for the duration of the 25% bonus Velocity promotion nor is Amex responsible for the 31 March cutoff date when Qantas is leaving the Ascent MR program.

I'm not sure that I or anyone else was suggesting that Amex is responsible for those things. I am suggesting though, that the delays in Amex posting points, the transfer of some from one promotion to another, and the fact that some are getting points before the 8-10 weeks while others aren't, is impacting some who want to make transfers.

 

[anat0l]

I'm not sure that I or anyone else was suggesting that Amex is responsible for those things. I am suggesting though, that the delays in Amex posting points, the transfer of some from one promotion to another, and the fact that some are getting points before the 8-10 weeks while others aren't, is impacting some who want to make transfers.

So basically it's just unfortunate timing.

 

[docjames]

I'm not sure that I or anyone else was suggesting that Amex is responsible for those things. I am suggesting though, that the delays in Amex posting points, the transfer of some from one promotion to another, and the fact that some are getting points before the 8-10 weeks while others aren't, is impacting some who want to make transfers.

I agree with this - I want all my points BEFORE MARCH 31 so I can decide if i want them in QFF or leave in Amex. I'll be blowed if i'm paying a lousy $10 for the ability to transfer points. Talk about money grabbing.

Note: I realise Amex dont give a stuff about March 31 and have no control.

I think the other this Amex need to consider at this point is this:

I love having my Amex card, especially no I have platinum, but this is really testing my patience, and if i can get a decent deal now from CBA on my Gold MCard, I'll be ditching Amex come March 31 - a huge part of it is all the stuffing around - free flights with no availability, this points promo and all the non-crediting, surcharges / not accepted everywhere. And for me to be conisdering getting rid of my Amex is really something as 6 months ago i'd bnever even have thought about it.

I hope Amex realises this effect it's having on its (previously) very loyal customers.

 

[beardoc]

JohnK:

This is not directed just at you - this has popped up multiple times over the thread, so I'm replying to all essentially as well as yourself.

It is not just the paranoia. I find it unbelieveable the lengths that some people will resort to in order to get an eligible Amex transaction.

And that's okay - you're entitled to find it unbelievable. But I sense in your posts that you have some sense of "moral high ground" in which you've set an arbitrary benchmark of what is acceptable under the promotion and what constitutes "abuse".

At the end of the day if Amex pay up with the points that should be awarded as per the T&Cs of the promotion, there might be someone that has gained many more points than you have. That's okay too - you've done what you wanted under the promotion, and others have done as they wanted. There is no moral high ground here. The only reference point are the T&Cs of the MR program and the T&Cs of the promotions discussed here.

And for the gazillionth time Amex is not responsible for the duration of the 25% bonus Velocity promotion nor is Amex responsible for the 31 March cutoff date when Qantas is leaving the Ascent MR program.

No, you're absolutely right. Amex is not responsible for QANTAS electing to remove itself from MR Ascent. However, Amex is responsible for posting the points earned under the promotion within the time frame listed within the T&Cs of the promotion. If they do that, then there are no problems.

Amex should honour the promotion as per the T&Cs of the promotion. It's that simple.

 

[beardoc]

I love having my Amex card, especially no I have platinum, but this is really testing my patience, and if i can get a decent deal now from CBA on my Gold MCard, I'll be ditching Amex come March 31 - a huge part of it is all the stuffing around - free flights with no availability, this points promo and all the non-crediting, surcharges / not accepted everywhere. And for me to be conisdering getting rid of my Amex is really something as 6 months ago i'd bnever even have thought about it.

If you think that the Amex annual free flight availablity is bad (which it's not, I'd say - just find a pair of O class seats and it's yours), then you really shouldn't be transferring your points to QFF anyway - the classic awards availability is ridiculously bad!

 

[edman]

If you think that the Amex annual free flight availablity is bad (which it's not, I'd say - just find a pair of O class seats and it's yours), then you really shouldn't be transferring your points to QFF anyway - the classic awards availability is ridiculously bad!

I've never had any problem with free flight availability either, in fact the first time I did it, I had to get an extension as the due date was coming up and I was on my way overseas, then when I finally did book it they let me use the 1st and 2nd year entitlement at the same time and even arranged for 2 seats together.

Nowadays I use the free hotel night instead. Stayed at the Sebel King George Square in Brisbane this weekend just gone, highly recommended.

 

[NM]

I'll be blowed if i'm paying a lousy $10 for the ability to transfer points.

Would you consider if it was considered a "transaction" on the card and dated in December

 

[JohnK]

And that's okay - you're entitled to find it unbelievable. But I sense in your posts that you have some sense of "moral high ground" in which you've set an arbitrary benchmark of what is acceptable under the promotion and what constitutes "abuse".

I think you misunderstood the context of my post(s). I did not make a reference to abuse in the latest post but I have done so in the past where I felt it was warranted. I am happy to be corrected if I have misjudged someone's spending patterns.

What amazes me and I find unbelievable is the lengths that people will resort to in order to get an eligible transaction. It is things like someone mentioning that their local coffee shop won't accept Amex but they have found a 7/11 a few kms down the road that accepts Amex so they drive there at lunchtime to buy coffee. My luchtime is a little more important than that and somedays I skip luchtime and clock up additional work hours. Also how many people have been buying things that they do not need and at the end of the promotion will wonder why they ever bought them.

I want the points as badly as everyone else but I am not going out of my way to get them. Yes the points are nice but Amex wants us to play a game on their terms and use the card more often and I am not willing to play on their terms. And I am not claiming the moral high ground, far from it. Hey I am the one that is buying beers with Amex although I have now resorted to buying 2 beers at a time to avoid being told to start up a tab. When this promotion is over I will be paying cash for the $3.80 or $4.40 beers. An amex transaction for that small amount is way too much hassle....

 

[beardoc]

I want the points as badly as everyone else but I am not going out of my way to get them. Yes the points are nice but Amex wants us to play a game on their terms and use the card more often and I am not willing to play on their terms. And I am not claiming the moral high ground, far from it. Hey I am the one that is buying beers with Amex although I have now resorted to buying 2 beers at a time to avoid being told to start up a tab. When this promotion is over I will be paying cash for the $3.80 or $4.40 beers. An amex transaction for that small amount is way too much hassle....

I agree with you. There is a time and hassle element to getting transactions, and I've been considering another one - the environmental impact of buying things that you wouldn't have bought anyway. Essentially this promotion awards people to consume - and encourages people to drive around, shop at multiple places,etc. There's an environmental impact there - stuff manufactured and bought just to get another transaction.

But in the end it's up to the individual to decide here - like "Pudding Guy" on FT and the other guy that flew constantly on AC on their "unlimited" pass - each person decides whether buying pallettes of chocolate pudding, or taking three months away from your job just to fly on AC, is worth it.

Also how many people have been buying things that they do not need and at the end of the promotion will wonder why they ever bought them.

At the risk of being flippant, perhaps they can consider that as they are flying over the Pacific in J or F for free.