2015 Gallipoli Ballot - 100th anniversary of the ANZAC landings

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Seeing as this is about Gallipoli I thought readers would appreciate this "letter from Gallipoli" which was published on the front page of the Grenfell Examiner in 1915. Amazing to read. The soldier in question was a cousin of my grandmother. Trust it is okay to post this.

A Soldier's Letter.

The following letters have been received from Sergeant Athol Burrett, second son of Mrs. A. E. Burrett, formerly of Grenfell, and now residing in Sydney:— The- Citadel Convalescent Hospital Cairo, 15th May, 1915.

Dear Lance,— Suppose you have heard all about me stopping a ' Turkish pill.' I am jolly lucky anyhow * ..., not to have got it in a more serious place. The wounds just below my left shoulder are healing well, and I hope to be discharged in a week or so and get back for revenge. Carl goes off to-day, so I suppose he wiII soon be in the thick of it. I was amongst the first to land on Sunday morning, 25th April, and lasted, through till Tuesday, about 12 noon, when I was hit. Fortunately for me it was not one of the explosive bullets they were using, or else it would have been good bye to my arm.

Their snipers were splendid shots and did us a great amount of damage; they were in holes the depth of their bodies, their heads and rifles being covered with bushes, and as everywhere there was a thick undergrowth of about 3 feet, you can understand they were hard to find. There were mines everywhere, so we were afraid to go off the explored paths, etc. It was simply grand the way our fellows worked. The navy and hydroplanes, etc., did great work for us; the Queen Elizabeth is a fine boat and tore the shells in — one of her big shells costs nearly £1000.

Where we landed there is only 30 yards of beach, and then these cliffs. The Turks had trenches, machine-guns, etc., right on the edge, so you can imagine it was rough. From our transports about a mile out, we were put on to destroyers and brought as close as possible to the shore, and again transferred to rowing boats, and pushed on to the beach. We jumped into the water, rushed ashore, off with our packs, and into it. Several boats were sunk by the forts. All along the beach were dead Australians, Jack Tars, and Turks. We drove them over two ridges, and then we 'turned a couple of double somersaults, bumped by about 40,000 to 60,000 up against our 12,000. We jumped into trenches that they had dug, and there we were when I left.

It was not till nearly dusk that reinforcements of the New Zealanders and Australians came up. The 26th Indian Mountain Battery were got ashore and did splendid work. Dead were lying about in hundreds; the wounds were dreadful- - some fellows torn to pieces. The nights were very dark, and the firing continued, I think with even greater force; it was also very cold, and as we were without our overcoats it was even worse than it should have been. The beggars, dressed as Indians, Australians, and New Zealanders, tried every trick to bluff us; w'e let them get close enough and poured the 'medicine' in. The white flag did not act at all. They would not stand up to the bayonet. They would come quite close to our trenches, and we would get out and at them, but they ran like deers; their object was to draw us on farther, out of easy range of our navy, and settle the lot of us.

The 3rd Battalion is almost wiped out. We were on the left flank. Practically all our officers and N.C.O.'s are killed or wounded. The Brigadier, Brigade-Major, and the Colonels of the 1st, 2nd, and 4th Battalions are all killed. Our Colonel— Owen — was the only colonel alive when I left. A number of our fellows were recommended for the V.C., but I think they were all killed later. It was just like a butcher's shop. Of course we were gradually being reinforced by the Gurkhas and British troops, and after I left our position was pretty secure. We see in the papers accounts of the bravery and marvellous achievements of the Australians, but no pen can describe it. The honor is Australia's, and in the first place goes to the 3rd, 1st, and 2nd Brigades, who effected the landing, and in that order. The navy could not say enough for us. About 30 of the Jack Tars who were landing us, jumped ashore, picked up rifles and ammunition, and came with us. One naval officer said ''If ever I'm called an Australian after this I'll be proud of it.

General Sir Ian Hamilton sent along this message on Sunday night: ''I'm proud of the Australians, but they must hold this position to the last man, and I think we would have done it too. Our officers were brave men — in fact it is hard to put one fellow before another. The A.M.C. were splendid; many of them rushed to certain death; they were being shot at, and I saw our own doctor shot a couple of yards from me whilst he was dressing a wound. Six of our chaps came across a sniper, and six bayonets went in pretty slippery. There was no mercy on either side.

The journey back from the firing line to the boats, and. thence on to the hospital boat was extremely dangerous,- and many were killed getting back. One boat load of wounded going out to the hospital boat was sunk and almost all were drowned. On the way over to Alexandria — 2 days— we buried 30. It was a dreadful sight, and I shall never forget it. There were men there with legs, arms, and bodies blown almost to pieces - it was awful. The doctors could only render first aid. We landed at Alexandria, thence by train to Cairo, and here we are. All men who can walk are termed convalescent. The hospitals are full, both in Cairo and Alexandria. I lost everything. My tunic and shirts were cut off me by the doctors — our packs, of course, were lost. My 'dirty left' is not much good now. I'll stand, a good chance of a commission on the reorganisation of out Brigade. We landed right up on the European side of the Dardanelles, where it is about 5 miles across, and it is here that the peninsula is being cut off. ... Carl gave the bride away at a wedding here yesterday — one of the fellows from the 6th was married, his girl following him from Australia. It is dreadfully hot now and glary. . . . Zeitoun Base Camp. Cairo, 21.5.15.

Dear Lance,—Well, I'm off again to the front. Have worked myself into a party going back to-morrow. My arm is still weak, but the wounds are practically dry. Carl went off on Saturday last, and I suppose he is in the thick of it now. I trust we may both come through safely, but if we don't, well -

The good news is that Athol survived four years of war and earned the DSO rising to the rank of Major by the age of 23-24. When you read that last line though you can see he wasn't too sure about making it. No wonder.
 
Enjoy the festivities all and don't forget the reasons why you decided to attend.

On this occasion it is the destination and not the journey.
 
Just a thought for those who have been in Gallipoli celebrating the service from a 100 years ago. Consider stretching the budget a little further and make a donation to Soldier On - a wonderful organisation that is helping our contemporary wounded.
 
Rick93;1235521 The women was craddling a 'bundle' covered up. My partner said said:
Dont know if this is common over there, but ive heard of stories from other countries where beggers get babies from otherd, (this is run in organised rings and often they have to give a large amount of there money to there 'overheads') anyway the reason the babies often dont move/cry and are sleeping all the time is they are either drugged up, or drunk.
 
Dont know if this is common over there, but ive heard of stories from other countries where beggers get babies from otherd, (this is run in organised rings and often they have to give a large amount of there money to there 'overheads') anyway the reason the babies often dont move/cry and are sleeping all the time is they are either drugged up, or drunk.
We never give money to beggars for this reason, although it is hard particularly when children are involved. In India children can be maimed or blinded in order to bring in money.
 
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Just caught a glimpse of a beggar "hold" a child in their lap. Then as I went passed the child was absolutely screaming. On a step next to the beggar. This was in Istanbul. Kind of glad I didn't see what caused the screaming.
 
Just watch for the dropped brush trick. Many of the beggars have come from Syria. There is one road that the HoHo bus goes down where women and children line up and bang on the windows for money.

Sometimes the "baby" aka bundle of rags, is thrown at you and as you ho to catch it your bags are snatched.
 
Just watch for the dropped brush trick. Many of the beggars have come from Syria. There is one road that the HoHo bus goes down where women and children line up and bang on the windows for money.

Sometimes the "baby" aka bundle of rags, is thrown at you and as you ho to catch it your bags are snatched.

Can you expand on the dropped brush trick? It resembles and experience I had in Istanbul last year.
 
Had an interesting little one down at the ferry terminal area near the train station in the old town. Right in front of a bench within about 1m of 3 big looking guys just sitting there was 2x 100 lira notes on the ground. The notes looked like photocopies, but hard to tell from a glimpse. Mum, of course, spots them, says "are you going to pick those up" and starts to dive towards the notes. Thankfully I was in a position to block her while replying "No". Wish I had of been quick enough to tell the nearest guy he'd drop some money.

Can you expand on the dropped brush trick? It resembles and experience I had in Istanbul last year.

I assume it is something to distract you by picking up and handing back the brush. While close they pickpocket.
 
The shoebrush. The shoe cleaner spots his target then walks on past. Just ahead of you a brush accidentally drops from his basket. Being nice people you call out to him. He turns around and as a thank you he offers to clean your shoes for free. At the end of the clean he says he has a pregnant wife and asks for money.

We were scammed once but we didn't really have any money on us. We had just arrived and were walking around the block. Eventually he gave up as we told him at the getgo we had no money.

From then on we would watch for future brushes. We just walked on past without saying anything so they had to turn around themselves.

Here is a series of photos from one of them. We spotted this guy sitting on a small wall ahead of us. He then got up as he saw us tourists and then walked ahead.

He had hurried ahead and caught the pedestrian lights but we slowed down and missed them. So he waited for us at the lights.

(Apologies for dodgy photos. I didn't want to make it obvious we were taking photos of them. )
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We almost caught up to him then he started walking again. Then whoopsie, he dropped the brush.

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This was right next to Taksim Sq - Intercontinental.
 
Well, we just checked out of IC Istanbul, and are now at the HI Airport.

Saw the 'babies' a few times during past few nights. Seems to be more noticable at night ?

However, back to Gallipoli / Lone Pine ......

Did you guys still in Australia see anything on the TV about the 'behaviour' of Australians at the Lone Pine Service ????

The photo tells the story. I shouldn't need to say anymore .....Sleeping3.jpg
 
I have zero problem with that, considering the crowds and the timings. Also funny to have people whinging about people sitting/laying down in one stop while standing in another spot that is just as much a grave. The whole site is one big massive grave. The other thing of the day was people whinging about people stepping over the headstone rows. The whinging people were those stand around in massive groups blocking the walkway on the edges of the headstones. So they block the path and then complain because people need to get around them. A clear case of FOCUS. Don't like it sit in the stand and get the F out the way
 
However, back to Gallipoli / Lone Pine ......

Did you guys still in Australia see anything on the TV about the 'behaviour' of Australians at the Lone Pine Service ????

The photo tells the story. I shouldn't need to say anymore ...

I assume that that was mid-morning as it is light and they are probably waiting for the Lone Pine Service to start. I find it quite disgusting. I am sure that many had no real appreciation of why they were there. The ballot didn't work too well in their case.
 
I'm reporting on the "other" Anzac Day in London.

We got up at 3.00am for the Dawn Service at Hyde Park Corner. We got there at 3.45am from the Conrad St James. Quite weird to be walking deserted streets and past Buckingham Palace at that time of morning. By 4.30am there was a huge crowd of over 5000 of mainly young Australians and Kiwis. The crowd was totally respectful of the occasion (apart from a tiny number wrapped in Australian flags as if they were off to the footy) and it went off perfectly. Adam Hills was the MC and did a great job. The Princess Royal laid a wreath as did several other dignitaries. We had great music from a didgeridoo and the Band of the Scots Guards. All up, very moving.

After some rest we headed out to Westminster Abbey for the service to be attended by the Queen and the Duke. After "security" we had a 90 minute wait for the start. We saw the Queen (well, the top of her hat as she bobbed past). We got better views of the British PM and Deputy PM and the Labour Party leader. So it was a full turn out by the establishment showing the value in which they hold the colonial cousins when it comes to the contribution in WW1.

The service was immaculately done as only the Brits can do. We had tremendous music from the organ, a didgeridoo played superbly, the Welsh Guards, the Abbey choir and a Turkish Air Force band and appropriate speeches from the diplomats. It ended with a full peel of the Abbey bells.

All up, a very moving day which will live long in the memory.
 
I assume that that was mid-morning as it is light and they are probably waiting for the Lone Pine Service to start. I find it quite disgusting. I am sure that many had no real appreciation of why they were there. The ballot didn't work too well in their case.

You assume wrong. That was AFTER the service. I would have to say that as someone who wasn't there you have no idea what was going on. You also seem to be blissfully unaware of the specifics of the memorial at all. We don't seem to have a photo of the thousands of people just milling around on the cemetery do we; what do you think about standing around like Brown's cows all over graves?
 
I really think people need to step back and realise that every square inch of places like Lone Pine, The Nek, Johnston's Jolly is a grave for someone. I think that those blokes would be happy to know that 10000 people, and over 37000 more people*, would turn up 100 years later, spend 36 hours without sleep and stand for hours in queues to remember them. All with a kind and considerate attitude, except for those who see a problem with people dropping out of exhaustion.

* we can probably say there would've been 1 million Australian's who wanted to be there.
 
Medhed, I assume YOU were there ...

Don't make damn excuses for people doing the wrong thing !!

If YOU were there, then you would KNOW, there was PLENTY of seating available in the stands, AND, plenty of places to go OUTSIDE the War Cemetery, if you NEEDED to lay down and sleep.

I don't know what your background is - whether or not you have served in the ADF - but there ARE protocols for War Cemeteries such as Lone Pine.

I have heard this garbage from a number of others - about the deceased diggers being happy that Australians remember them etc. etc.
and they would love to have people lay on their graves ...

THAT, is total garbage !!!

Your notion, that 'every inch of the place is a grave' is true to a point - but when a particular place is SPECIFICALLY designated as the resting place of THE ONE INDIVIDUAL ..... then your premise is to be disregarded.

An Australian War Cemetery is AUSTRALIAN Commonwealth territory. There are rules that go with being on that territory.

I'll be watching with interest, what further media reports will surface - when War Graves Commission responds to the complaints they have received.
 
While not serving at Gallipoli but Villers Bretonneux, I think my Grandfather would be in awe that 100 years later people were there to acknowledge their sacrifice and if they need to rest then so be it. They meant no disrespect by sitting there.

He was in the War Graves repatriation btw. When he came back (he passed away before I was born) he wouldn't say a bad thing about anyone and wouldn't even kill a fly (according to my mum).
 
You assume wrong. That was AFTER the service. I would have to say that as someone who wasn't there you have no idea what was going on. You also seem to be blissfully unaware of the specifics of the memorial at all. We don't seem to have a photo of the thousands of people just milling around on the cemetery do we; what do you think about standing around like Brown's cows all over graves?

Why do you find it necessary to attack almost everyone you disagree with? You can't just state that you have a different view? My views are as valid as yours so please lay off demeaning comments such as "blissfully unaware" at least when you are dealing with my comments. I was not there on Anzac Day this year but have been to Gallipoli before and know exactly the layout of Lone Pine. I continue to find it disrespectful and disgusting that people are lounging and apparently picnicking amongst the gravestones. I think that they should know better. If you have a different view that is fine by me.
 
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