2019 Federal Election Discussion

[moa999]

If it stopped people like Anning being elected in, would that be a bad thing

Anning got elected on group voting.
Had he been #2 on the ballot he would have been elected straight up, without s44.

In #3 he was generally unelectable (and just didn't have many friends vote for him below the line)

Most elected Senators in spot 2 or below get relatively few below the line votes - though 19 is very low

 

[moa999]

I'd like to see fixed terms, 4 or 5 years and first past the post, much simpler.

Fixed terms yes.
First past the post No.

I think it is more that the scrutineers would feed the info back to their candidates who could change their pitches based on the results of individual seats, announce new policies, throw some new dirt around etc etc. Whether it would change people's voting, who knows but there would be still swinging voters to woo.

Just can't see that you can do much in the last 48hrs. All the policies are released.

 

[love_the_life]

Fixed terms yes.
First past the post No.

Just can't see that you can do much in the last 48hrs. All the policies are released.

But time to add a few extra 'sweeteners' if needed. And to throw in some scare tactics if necessary. The info would not be secure with our system of scrutineering.

 

[amaroo]

Anning got elected on group voting.
Had he been #2 on the ballot he would have been elected straight up, without s44.

In #3 he was generally unelectable (and just didn't have many friends vote for him below the line)

Most elected Senators in spot 2 or below get relatively few below the line votes - though 19 is very low

Will be interesting to see if Jim Molan can get sufficient people to vote for him below the line. Very tough gig without coughing up $70 million.

 

[amaroo]

First pass the post only works when it's a two horse race .... maybe on day, but I can't see that happening.

 

[moa999]

First pass the post only works when it's a two horse race .... maybe on day, but I can't see that happening.

Particularly with some true 3-corner contests like Melbourne Ports now Macnamara

 

[CaptJCool]

@Katie

I thought you’d like this



From the sounds of it if 30% of voters voted pre-polls, then the queues will be a third shorter. I’m still yet to turn up and sign off my attendance ...

Thought I’d try the novel experience of voting AFTER polling places ha e closed in the Eastern States

But I’ll let you all into A secret. I’m voting for a candidate, one of who’s initials are S...Shaun., Steve, Sarah, Scott, Shorten...

A campaign conducted on the basis of delusion

Just as it did in 2007, Labor has fought the election as if mounting global storm clouds do...

www.canberratimes.com.au

Might I say. I think the coalition need to govern so instead of labor hitting the coughe hit the fan crisis, they do and let’s see how good they are at managing a mess.

Nextly. Abbott must lose Warringah and given last nights Campaign Trail, I hope one Andrews in Menzies is thrown out too. Apparently on state election results overlay, he would stand being defeated as long as Bulleen (Matthew Guys seat) votes similarly to surrounding suburbs.

I’m expecting Tas to elect at least one Lib
Here in SA, ACT, NT No change, prob one if any in WA
Vic. Banks for the win, pretty much Lab to win two OR three above redistribution numbers, (that’s 5-6) libs to hold the Dr Higgins and Kooyong, and win Indi
Greens to win Melbourne and what was MeBourne Ports
NSW Gilmore gone and Lindsay won, oakeshoot in CowPer, Stegall in Warringah and Sharma in Wentworth
Qld. What you sold to the baristas in Batman don’t run with the farmers in far north Qld, Herbert to go Liberal, possibly one win, three losses in Brissy

Labor start at 72, Lib at 73
That gives Lab the highest total seats
The crossbench
Katter
Wilkie
Brandt and one
Banks
steggall
sharkie
Oakeshott

for the Senate 3 left and 3 right.
You need 14% for a seat
4 Qld seats are Right and 4 tas seats ARe left. This ought balance out


(Palmer will take one nation Qld seat currently held by FA). Greens will drop 3-4, centre alliance drops ONE, HINCH might win, Lib Dems wont win again, neither will Martin who is with Nats now, was Lambies seat The outside chance Goes to Jacque Lambie but it’s 250-1

PS Franking credits wont pass the Senate and neither they should, it’s a policy about two elections ahead of its time. Once super 1992-2025 is fully matured, then do it then. We do need lower taxes on income and higher taxes on capital gains and family trusts do need to stop taking the rest of us for a ride

 

[love_the_life]

At the National Press Club for a few drinks - starting to buzz but unfortunately we have trout and almonds waiting at home so won’t be here for the fun.

 

[love_the_life]

Of course had to have a coughtail of the day - a fair go. Sorry I’d drunk half of it.


Note the coasters.

 

[andye]

Tony Abbott was standing outside our polling station when we voted. He looked a bit uncomfortable. He then left with his group of uni students looking quite down as he got into his car. I disagree on many things but did feel for him as he has spent a long time representing his community and is a good local citizen. Of course he may still win but the mood seems against him

 

[love_the_life]

I have no sympathy for Abbott, whatever happens.

 

[love_the_life]

Home again and cooking dinner. It was getting fun at the NPC but noisy and need to watch on our own tv. Trout in oven; radishes and French butter ready.

 

[CaptJCool]

First votes landed from Perisher Valley and Daintree Forest

Freshwater Creek in Corangamite

 

[CaptJCool]

Wow, some interesting results turning up.

Vote Tony Out he looks gone

 

[moa999]

Early results look much better for the Libs than projected.

Might be closer than most suspected

 

[OATEK]

Not what I expected after 2hrs of the count.

 

[dajop]

Well looking like a good result whoever wins- no more Tony Abbott!!

Also looks like LNP will win, and hopefully give the ALP a chance to find a more charismatic leader for next time, better able to sell their policies (if they do indeed choose to have any).

 

[amaroo]

Hahaha - we do have first past the post. Barnaby and a few others just proved that Q

 

[tgh]

Always sad to see a conservative warrior ejected, but TA has always presented as a divisive live by the sword x die by the sword politician.
What about scomo….whoohooo….. win or lose ultimately , it's an absolutely amazing result for him personally.

 

[33kft]

I'm wondering how the punter who put $850,000 on today with SportsBet for ALP to win at $1.10 is feeling, pretty nervous I would say. Not as much as SportsBet themselves who paid out all ALP bets a few days ago. Maybe they'll turn out to be on the money once WA results come in, but there will be some sweating in the interim.