27th February Big Qantas announcement

[TomVexille]

my point was... 77W allows airlines to carry a full complement of premium passengers in a comfortable cabin, and pretty much not need to worry about economy, or being weight limited in economy like the 744 is between DFW and BNE.

Not disputing that fact

 

[Kefci2000]

SQ run 77W with 16/36/224=276

 

[bismarck]

Maybe they'll follow AA's lead and phase out cabin pressurization to cut costs?
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[markis10]

I wonder if News can have any more stories on Qantas on their home page?

 

[maninblack]

I wonder if News can have any more stories on Qantas on their home page?

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I must say it made me laugh though

 

[Danger]

Is there any medi commentator, reputable business person, politician, economist, anyone who has backed Joyce? Is there anyone saying 'Give the man a break, he's done the best he can'?

For several weeks I've not seen one positive comment - let alone article - written about him.

 

[Cossie]

Is there any medi commentator, reputable business person, politician, economist, anyone who has backed Joyce? Is there anyone saying 'Give the man a break, he's done the best he can'?

For several weeks I've not seen one positive comment - let alone article - written about him.

Not in this one either that has just been posted, quote:

"In all the noise about the travails affecting Qantas – high labour costs, fuel, state-owned and hugely resourced global competitors from China and the Middle East – very little is mentioned about strategic errors from management or the board.

In the past five years, it has deliberately alienated customers, conducted a war of attrition with its employees and bitterly disappointed its shareholders. Management, meanwhile, has been handsomely rewarded."

Taxpayer risk from Federal Government Qantas debt guarantee - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

 

[AnonymousCoward]

Is there any medi commentator, reputable business person, politician, economist, anyone who has backed Joyce? Is there anyone saying 'Give the man a break, he's done the best he can'?

For several weeks I've not seen one positive comment - let alone article - written about him.

The Board, presumably. Evidently they back a strategy of cutting costs from the legacy part of the business, and competing at the bottom of the market with Jetstar. Joyce, for all his faults, seems to be a good hatchet man. Given the inability of QF to raise prices (aka competition), I'm guessing that cutting costs is the next most obvious strategy. People flying the airline obviously don't like it, because it means getting less than what they're used to.

 

[BadgerBoi]

Is there any medi commentator, reputable business person, politician, economist, anyone who has backed Joyce? Is there anyone saying 'Give the man a break, he's done the best he can'?

For several weeks I've not seen one positive comment - let alone article - written about him.

The awful thing is, I think that he has done the best that he can; for the life of me I can't understand why he wasn't given a map to his nearest Centrelink office years ago.

 

[gethsemene]

So whilst we are throwing wild speculation around, what chance VA capitalises on the potential fallout by offering a status match. I am now QFF gold 90%through domestic flights and would definitely take my business to VA if Qantas gets worse..... I'm already hoping they status match us Hobartians anyway once they finish building the lounge as it's the reason most people chose qantas to start with......

 

[alieninperth]

I was looking at some aaward flights yesterday and the results threw up a few interesting permutations. PER-BKK-LHR in J and F. I found this very interesting because 1 you cant fly PER-BKK nor BKK-LHR on Qf at the moment, and the BKK-LHR flight was QF9.

I haven't been able to replicate it since so it's probably just a glitch in the the AA search program. However, as we are all speculating wildly then I though I would add it in here.

 

[amaroo]

Is there any medi commentator, reputable business person, politician, economist, anyone who has backed Joyce? Is there anyone saying 'Give the man a break, he's done the best he can'?

For several weeks I've not seen one positive comment - let alone article - written about him.

I'm guessing Qantas major shareholders are going to be very pleased with lower CODB and access to significantly cheaper finance.

 

[willjd]

I was looking at some aaward flights yesterday and the results threw up a few interesting permutations. PER-BKK-LHR in J and F. I found this very interesting because 1 you cant fly PER-BKK nor BKK-LHR on Qf at the moment, and the BKK-LHR flight was QF9.

I haven't been able to replicate it since so it's probably just a glitch in the the AA search program. However, as we are all speculating wildly then I though I would add it in here.

Wouldn't mind flying MEL - BKK - LHR...no different to flying through DXB really

 

[BD1959]

Wouldn't mind flying MEL - BKK - LHR...no different to flying through DXB really

MEL-KUL-LHR would be better - would be able to leverage off MH as a OW partner - or even MEL-HKG-LHR with CX, "the JQ China Hub" ... better still, make it a midnight departure from MEL, early afternoon into LHR for a late night turnaround as QF2. QF1 would be able to do the reciprocal QF10 as a midday departure rather than sitting on the ground at LHR all day .... oh, wait a minute ....

Regards,

BD

 

[burmans]

just look at the amount of mainstream media attention to the upcoming announcements. QF is still very much part of Australia's psyche, whether we realise it or not

Oh common, Scappelle's release from jail got massive mainstream media too, and you can use the same she "part of our psyche" line. Then a few days later she's forgotten again because we are really over it. Overhyping stories is just what news agencies do, whether in 2 weeks time we still think this is important is a different and more important question that I guess only time will tell.

 

[badseed]

I can't understand why he wasn't given a map to his nearest Centrelink office years ago.

Unfortunately QF stopped mainline service to Centrelink years ago after JQ cannibalised the market.

Whereas if I were running QF there'd be triple-daily 77Ws.

 

[dajop]

MEL-KUL-LHR would be better - would be able to leverage off MH as a OW partner - or even MEL-HKG-LHR with CX, "the JQ China Hub" ... better still, make it a midnight departure from MEL, early afternoon into LHR for a late night turnaround as QF2. QF1 would be able to do the reciprocal QF10 as a midday departure rather than sitting on the ground at LHR all day .... oh, wait a minute ....

The turn-around idea makes sense, all the Asian carriers seem to make midnights out of MEL and lunchtimes out of Europe work, but for some reason QF can't.

As for KUL, I just don't think there's enough origin/departure traffic in premium cabins to support the route. SIN & HKG are both significant centres of international business to support this sort of traffic, which supplements through traffic, but KUL struggles. There must be a good reason why only 3 European carriers (TK, KL, AF) have non-stops to KUL (vs 7 that do non-stops to SIN, and 10-11 to HKG) and neither UA or DL bothers with tag services to KUL, but do to other SE Asian cities.

 

[markis10]

As for KUL, I just don't think there's enough origin/departure traffic in premium cabins to support the route. SIN & HKG are both significant centres of international business to support this sort of traffic, which supplements through traffic, but KUL struggles. There must be a good reason why only 3 European carriers (TK, KL, AF) have non-stops to KUL (vs 7 that do non-stops to SIN, and 10-11 to HKG) and neither UA or DL bothers with tag services to KUL, but do to other SE Asian cities.

I agree, nothing has changed from when JQ couldnt make it work in a positive sense, the only real change is a lot more competition flights at the low end of the market.

 

[fresherbill]

I agree, nothing has changed from when JQ couldnt make it work in a positive sense, the only real change is a lot more competition flights at the low end of the market.

O&D traffic might be limited to KUL, but surely there must be the potential for plenty of premium connecting traffic to wider South East Asia. I agree that the low-end leisure market is saturated... in any case, QF has that covered through connections with 3K in SIN. However premium traffic to South East Asia is effectively ignored. What ought to be a simple QF connection in J to Yangon or Medan or Chiang Mai cannot be booked on the QF website. It's as if QF has no idea that folks do business in South East Asia.

As I see it, MH joining OW is one BIG thing that has changed, and it's bizarre that it plays no role at all in the Qantas Asian strategy.

 

[markis10]

O&D traffic might be limited to KUL, but surely there must be the potential for plenty of premium connecting traffic to wider South East Asia. .

The only premium traffic through KUL is on MH and their very cheap fares. Premium can always route through HKG if they are serious, which makes sense for growth markets like China anyway.