27th February Big Qantas announcement

[lovestotravel]

Well at least SYD-HNL will continue on QF and with an A333 before the end of this year

As is stands the A380's and A330's will be around for another 5-10 years, after that who knows

 

[a330j]

Very interesting Canberra Times article on QANTAS and the machinations of the Australian aviation scene over the last decade or so. Hopefully will be free to all.

Mayday: How Qantas went from national icon to corporate tragedy

 

[markis10]

Very interesting Canberra Times article on QANTAS and the machinations of the Australian aviation scene over the last decade or so. Hopefully will be free to all.

Mayday: How Qantas went from national icon to corporate tragedy

Rerun of Saturdays SMH article. Matt seems to be doing a good job for Fairfax but not quite as well connected as those at the Aus.

 

[BobbyFlyer]

Just leaving the QP int longe and was reflecting how long it'll stay and what went wrong for QF to leave PER with no int services....and lo and behold a guy filling up his hip flask with wiskey at the counter...it was a sign...lol

 

[Dmac6345]

That's Unbelieveable. I gather he was going home, not on a flight.
Why are the QP Lounge Angels letting VA Pilots in for anyway ???

 

[serfty]

That's Unbelieveable. I gather he was going home, not on a flight.
...

Give the International bit I would believe they would be outbound.

 

[Must...Fly!]

Give the International bit I would believe they would be outbound.

given the LAG rules how would he even get a flask through security is what I am wondering?

 

[mannej]

given the LAG rules how would he even get a flask through security is what I am wondering?

If there isn't any liquid in the flask why would there be an issue getting it through security?

 

[froggerADL]

Note to self: Buy a hip flask

 

[serfty]

Note to self: Buy a hip flask

Why waste time with that - just a small bottle bag and a screw cap to fit ...


... not that I propone any such action ...

 

[drron]

I will probably now take a walking stick on my next trip.Was given one by a patient.Gold duck's head on top but the wonderful feature is taking off the head reveals a nice little flask.Now I know what to do with it.

 

[cove]

Air New Zealand ,Scoot and Thai are going to help keep Perth International open based on announcements from these three.

 

[dajop]

I did a quick analysis of a 2000 QF timetable vs now. Interestingly, QFi have approximately the same number of seats (~69,000) and services (~245) out of Australia each week as they did back then. Which may sound surprising, but this has really represented a major consolidation at SYD, and to a lesser extent BNE. ADL, DRW, CNS and now PER have all lost international services . Sydney has gained ~40 services and 8,000 seats, BNE gained 13 services and 4000 seats and MEL gained 2 services a week and 1000 seats. (note to avoid distortions, I did exclude Qantas Link from the analysis which in 2000 served DRW-DIL on a 36 seat Dash 8 double daily but now serves CNS-POM 12x weekly on the Q400). Of course there have been a number of connections and end destinations lost in all of this.

In terms of services that have been moved to Jetstar, there haven't been too many, most of the services that have gone, have well just been axed full stop. Ones that did go to Jetstar are the DPS services, (which back then was only 10 a week in total spread across MEL, SYD, DRW & PER), the MEL-BKK service (6x weekly), MEL-CHC (4x weekly), half of the SYD-HNL services and of course CNS-NRT (daily), DRW-SIN (daily) & PER-SIN (double daily then on QF, now daily on Jetstar).

 

[codash1099]

More commentary:

Business is supposed to be about logic. Economics courses hammer home the concept of rational behaviour. The management texts are brimming with scientific methods to maximise returns.

Occasionally, though, logic is thrown to the wind as the primal Darwinian urges that shape human behaviour and the natural world take hold in a boardroom fight to the death, where ego reigns supreme regardless of consequences.

For more read

Qantas tactics led to current tailspin - The Drum (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

 

[drron]

More commentary:



For more read

Qantas tactics led to current tailspin - The Drum (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

Not really an unbiased account.
For instance-

But any semblance of cooperation was abandoned when Joyce, who had cut his teeth at budget operator Aer Lingus and showed adept skill with a scalpel at Jetstar, trumped Borghetti for the job to steer Qantas through a post-financial crisis world.

AJ left Aer Lingus in 1996 when it was basically state owned and a full service airline.It later joined OW.The government sold most of it's stake in 2006 and eventually Ryan air emerged as the largest shareholder and hence it became a LCC.Between Aer lingus and QF he worked for Ansett another full service airline.

Or-

But Joyce and the Qantas board, where directors with direct aviation experience are thin on the ground, have made a fundamental error.

No thinner than the VA board.

it is easy for any of us to be armchair critics but at least we should be aware of the facts.Some are on the record as demonstrated.Others would require knowledge of running an airline.I think very few of us AFFers would have that knowledge.

 

[OATEK]

The Guardian is reporting that Cabinet is considering lifting the foreign ownership restrictions of QF Domestic, effectively splitting QFi off under the current rules.

 

[Sdtravel]

Federal Government announce they will not offer debt guarantee for Qantas | News.com.au

government announced no debt guarentee and they will amend sale act.

Now selling, one airline!! Was flying kangaroo now flying camel or panda??

shame to loose one of the last new iconic Aussie companies

 

[amaroo]

Federal Government announce they will not offer debt guarantee for Qantas | News.com.au

government announced no debt guarentee and they will amend sale act.

Now selling, one airline!! Was flying kangaroo now flying camel or panda??

shame to loose one of the last new iconic Aussie companies

IMO all a smoke screen to achieve three outcomes:-

1. Squeeze the opposition on the QSA, IR, unions and carbon tax

2. Ensure that QF carry out their major cost cutting.....no good providing assistance if nothing is going to change

3. Provide cover if/when they do provide assistance to QF - the other airlines that line-up behind QF will be told sorry, blame it on the Greens/ALP

 

[dajop]

The Guardian is reporting that Cabinet is considering lifting the foreign ownership restrictions of QF Domestic, effectively splitting QFi off under the current rules.

Isn't that just new positioning for same argument to remove Qantas Sales Act? Sounds like the PR people are finally working the arguments, that even with removing restrictions in Qantas Sales Act, QFi would still have to be majority Australian owned, as VAi is, to access international routes.

 

[hdfb]

I did a quick analysis of a 2000 QF timetable vs now. Interestingly, QFi have approximately the same number of seats (~69,000) and services (~245) out of Australia each week as they did back then. Which may sound surprising, but this has really represented a major consolidation at SYD, and to a lesser extent BNE. ADL, DRW, CNS and now PER have all lost international services . Sydney has gained ~40 services and 8,000 seats, BNE gained 13 services and 4000 seats and MEL gained 2 services a week and 1000 seats. (note to avoid distortions, I did exclude Qantas Link from the analysis which in 2000 served DRW-DIL on a 36 seat Dash 8 double daily but now serves CNS-POM 12x weekly on the Q400). Of course there have been a number of connections and end destinations lost in all of this.

In terms of services that have been moved to Jetstar, there haven't been too many, most of the services that have gone, have well just been axed full stop. Ones that did go to Jetstar are the DPS services, (which back then was only 10 a week in total spread across MEL, SYD, DRW & PER), the MEL-BKK service (6x weekly), MEL-CHC (4x weekly), half of the SYD-HNL services and of course CNS-NRT (daily), DRW-SIN (daily) & PER-SIN (double daily then on QF, now daily on Jetstar).

You can also now add MEL-NRT as a route that went from QF to JQ. Great post anyway.