A couple of questions from an AAdvantage newbie

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Cathay tends to have availability 12 months out and then again about one month out and then a few days out. You can get a free community account at AwardNexus. Worth checking closer to the time I reckon.
 
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Thanks that is good to know.
What is CX's availability like on their JFK/HKG in F I wonder ?

I have booked four J seats on the same flights JFK-YVR-HKG. Two through QF as part of One World Awards and two through AA. Have seen 2 F seats available at the same time 331 days out.
 
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Is it possible to book a Qantas award flight with AA miles approximately 350 days out? I know Qantas releases it's seats about 355 days out but the AA booking engine only allows you to search up to 331 days out, even noting "American Airlines and AAdvantage participating airlines offer flights up to 331 days in advance" which is obviously not correct for Qantas.

If I call AA, would they be able to do it manually and, if so, would they still slug me the phone boooking fee?

Short answer: No

Longer answer: AA's systems cannot handle bookings greater than that ~330 days in advance.

QFF members generally get first crack at any initial allocation.

I'm keen to get a QF premium cabin award on the A380 in about 50 weeks' time. There is some availability with QF but I can't book it with AA. I'm reluctant to part with so many points when I can I do it so much cheaper with AA.

Two questions.

First, if I do book the award I want with QF I'm happy to bear the 5k penalty of cancelling to re-book the same award but through AA. Is there any method to when my cancelled award seat would be returned to inventory, so that I could snap it up with AA?

Second, if option one fails, how common (50% likely, 20% likely etc.) is a new award seat (either a whole new seat or one resulting from somoene else cancelling) likely to pop up over the course of the next 50 weeks? I recognise the answer to this question is likely to be subjective but still interested peoples' thoughts.
 
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First, if I do book the award I want with QF I'm happy to bear the 5k penalty of cancelling to re-book the same award but through AA. Is there any method to when my cancelled award seat would be returned to inventory, so that I could snap it up with AA?

It seems to happen regularly so your chances are reasonable but there can be a delay of a few hours or even days for the inventory to return. ExpertFlyer alerts can help but they're not in real time so it could be returned and someone else beats you to it.

Also consider a JASA booking which usually means there are no point penalities when you cancel.

Second, if option one fails, how common (50% likely, 20% likely etc.) is a new award seat (either a whole new seat or one resulting from somoene else cancelling) likely to pop up over the course of the next 50 weeks? I recognise the answer to this question is likely to be subjective but still interested peoples' thoughts.

I've certainly seen J and P awards become available later. My guess is that it's other awards being cancelled but there's no way of knowing. If your date are pretty flexible then it could happen but it's a bit of a long shot.
 
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is it possible to book a QF premium economy seat using AA points?

can see a Y+ award seat on qantas but i know it doesn't show up on AA website, wondering if calling would make any difference?
 
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is it possible to book a QF premium economy seat using AA points? ...
I would suggest no - as of posting AA don;t even have a redemption table published for PE seating.
 
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No, it isn't possible. Can be done with Avios but not AA miles.

The difference in miles from economy to business is so small really that you can purchase the extra miles you need fairly cheaply.

Dale.
 
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thats a shame.

Y+ availability on QF8 is much better than J availability, although i don't think it's worth 84k QFF points. if it was somewhere between the 32.5k and 45k AA miles i'd be jumping on it without hesitation.

avios looks like poor value at 75k avios miles for Y+ flight
 
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It think it's been mentioned already but at what time does AA release their awards? US central time, Eastern Australian time. whatever.
 
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I'm keen to get a QF premium cabin award on the A380 in about 50 weeks' time. There is some availability with QF but I can't book it with AA. I'm reluctant to part with so many points when I can I do it so much cheaper with AA.

Two questions.

First, if I do book the award I want with QF I'm happy to bear the 5k penalty of cancelling to re-book the same award but through AA. Is there any method to when my cancelled award seat would be returned to inventory, so that I could snap it up with AA?

Second, if option one fails, how common (50% likely, 20% likely etc.) is a new award seat (either a whole new seat or one resulting from somoene else cancelling) likely to pop up over the course of the next 50 weeks? I recognise the answer to this question is likely to be subjective but still interested peoples' thoughts.

It seems to happen regularly so your chances are reasonable but there can be a delay of a few hours or even days for the inventory to return. ExpertFlyer alerts can help but they're not in real time so it could be returned and someone else beats you to it.

Also consider a JASA booking which usually means there are no point penalities when you cancel.

I've certainly seen J and P awards become available later. My guess is that it's other awards being cancelled but there's no way of knowing. If your date are pretty flexible then it could happen but it's a bit of a long shot.

I got my award seat. It was the solitary one available on the flight I wanted and had been quietly sitting in the corner for 35-odd days waiting for me to snap it up when AA opened it up.

I found it yesterday when there were the Sabre problems but I did find a couple of things along the way that may be helpful.

Firstly, the furtherest date (ie. the most distant date that an award could be searched for) became available at 1pm WST. The date itself (ie. when AA's site moved from, in my case 2 July 2014 to 3 July) was 12am yesterday. However, on reflection, I suspect this was a computer timing thing and that if I'd fired up my computer at exactly the same time, but was located in the US, 3 July may actually not have been available.

But, even though 3 July was available to search and it returned flight results, every time I selected a flight combination (two flights in total) I got an error message saying 'the flight you selected is no longer available' which was plain wrong. ExpertFlyer and Qantas still showed the seats as available and the same flights continued to show up as being available, even when the engine said they weren't. Again, I don't know if this was a Sabre issue or not.

So I phoned AA in Fiji to tell them my problem. Their first response was, of course, to blame it on Sabre but I persisted. The agent spoke with technical support, twice, and then, I kid you not, told me that AA hadn't loaded any fares or awards for 3 July and that they wouldn't be available until, wait for it, 20 August. In the very same breath the agent told me that the engine only goes 330 days in the future. The agent was adamant it was both 20 August for 3 July bookings and 330 days. There was no telling her otherwise or getting her to see her stupidity.

As it turned out, I tried again about 9pm WST last night and managed to get the seat. Today I phoned AA in Fiji to tell the agent (via another agent) just how wrong her information was and that if I'd waited until 20 August when she was so convinced the booking would be available, it would almost certainly have been gone.
 
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But, even though 3 July was available to search and it returned flight results, every time I selected a flight combination (two flights in total) I got an error message saying 'the flight you selected is no longer available' which was plain wrong. ExpertFlyer and Qantas still showed the seats as available and the same flights continued to show up as being available, even when the engine said they weren't. Again, I don't know if this was a Sabre issue or not.

I have found this happens pretty much all the time with AA; flights are searchable for about 24 hrs before they will go through to ticketing. I guess it is the same for everyone searching on AA for that particular flight, so no big deal. Unless of course someone snaps up that last seat through Qantas during that 24 hr period.

Anyway, you got your flight, that's the important thing.
 
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I am looking at purchasing miles to enable a business flight from MEL to MAN in May next year with my wife and baby. I rang AA reservations to enquire about infant seat price. I had intended on flying EY as they go one stop to MAN (which is nice with a baby), and there is no business availability on my dates with other airlines. Unfortunately, the agent informed me that I would have to make two seperate bookings - MEL to Abu Dhabi and then Abu Dhabi to MAN. This obviously increases the number of points required from 60k to 75k per passenger. I am limited to purchasing 60k of miles and dont have any presently, and cant get 75k worth of points even if I was prepared to pay this amount.

I am thinking my only option is to fly economy from MEL to Abu Dhabi (30k) and then Business to MAN from there (30k), thereby costing 60k points. The infant ticket is likely to be about $500 for this option I think, but I see no other way around it.

I am new to this site, but would appreciate some insights from people more knowledgable than me. Ta.
 
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I am looking at purchasing miles to enable a business flight from MEL to MAN in May next year with my wife and baby. I rang AA reservations to enquire about infant seat price. I had intended on flying EY as they go one stop to MAN (which is nice with a baby), and there is no business availability on my dates with other airlines. Unfortunately, the agent informed me that I would have to make two seperate bookings - MEL to Abu Dhabi and then Abu Dhabi to MAN. This obviously increases the number of points required from 60k to 75k per passenger. I am limited to purchasing 60k of miles and dont have any presently, and cant get 75k worth of points even if I was prepared to pay this amount.

I am thinking my only option is to fly economy from MEL to Abu Dhabi (30k) and then Business to MAN from there (30k), thereby costing 60k points. The infant ticket is likely to be about $500 for this option I think, but I see no other way around it.

I am new to this site, but would appreciate some insights from people more knowledgable than me. Ta.

Hi juanpablo and welcome to AFF. You will find lots of useful stuff here.

I think you have 3 options for your trip:

1. As you have outlined. But you do have to suck up a really long leg in economy. I would be looking for another way.

2. Fly to LHR instead, and drive/train to MAN. It's not that far. Award availability to LHR is probably better and you can go the entire way in business for 60K points.

3. If you want to stick to your original itinerary and fly in business the whole way, it IS possible to accumulate more than 60K AA points in a hurry. You can transfer (for a fee) AA points from one account to another (up to 100K points a year.) So, with the current AA points buying promotion, you and your wife could buy 60K points, getting a 2K bonus. You then start a third account and buy 24K points (+2K bonus), and using the "share miles" feature on AA, transfer 13K points to each of your other accounts. Cost of the extra 26K points is USD561, and cost of transfer is USD360. So it isn't all that cheap, but is doable. Another way is to enrol in SPG (Starwood Preferred Guest), buy some points there and transfer them over to AA.

Personally, I would hire a car at LHR and go for a nice little drive.

Good luck!
 
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I am looking at purchasing miles to enable a business flight from MEL to MAN in May next year with my wife and baby. I rang AA reservations to enquire about infant seat price. I had intended on flying EY as they go one stop to MAN (which is nice with a baby), and there is no business availability on my dates with other airlines. Unfortunately, the agent informed me that I would have to make two seperate bookings - MEL to Abu Dhabi and then Abu Dhabi to MAN. This obviously increases the number of points required from 60k to 75k per passenger. I am limited to purchasing 60k of miles and dont have any presently, and cant get 75k worth of points even if I was prepared to pay this amount.

I am thinking my only option is to fly economy from MEL to Abu Dhabi (30k) and then Business to MAN from there (30k), thereby costing 60k points. The infant ticket is likely to be about $500 for this option I think, but I see no other way around it.

I am new to this site, but would appreciate some insights from people more knowledgable than me. Ta.

Can you not set up another account (MIL's name say) and use it to Gift you the extra miles?
 
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Also consider reading the LifeMiles thread - you can buy miles cheaply there and also travel business class.

Dale.
 
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Can you not set up another account (MIL's name say) and use it to Gift you the extra miles?



"Gifting" is basically the same as "buying"; combined limit of 60K points per account. You have to "share" if you want more than 60K
 
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Thanks for the options. I really appreciate the input. The issue with the LHR option is that there are no flights in business for the 3 or 4 days that I need to travel to the UK. Having said that I have not enquired about the options that dont appear on the AA search - I think Cathy may be such an example. I have however, read that Cathy infant fees are 25% of a full fare, which could make for a nasty additional cost. Is this correct?

I have looked into LifeMiles as an option too. Flights to Manchester are very long for the dates I am looking at (3,4 or 5th of May) from what I could see which is a bit of a turn off. Perhaps I am being too ambitious about getting a quick flight using miles for May '14.
 
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Cathay certainly doesn't show up in the AA search tool and neither does Malaysian which usually has good availability also.

Either get a free community account with AwardNexus.com for better searching tools or get an account at British Airways | Book Worldwide Flights & Holidays and their exec club search tool for Avios bookings will also show OneWorld availability.

Can you fly into CDG Paris and then perhaps get EasyJet to Manchester as another option?

Your other option is US miles which are on sale at the moment - though you have to open an account for 12 days before can buy with the bonus.

Dale.
 
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Re: Couple of AAdvantage questions from a newbie to it

Thanks for the options. I really appreciate the input. The issue with the LHR option is that there are no flights in business for the 3 or 4 days that I need to travel to the UK. Having said that I have not enquired about the options that dont appear on the AA search - I think Cathy may be such an example. I have however, read that Cathy infant fees are 25% of a full fare, which could make for a nasty additional cost. Is this correct?

I have looked into LifeMiles as an option too. Flights to Manchester are very long for the dates I am looking at (3,4 or 5th of May) from what I could see which is a bit of a turn off. Perhaps I am being too ambitious about getting a quick flight using miles for May '14.

If you want to book CX flights using AA miles you need to ring A Advantage. I have just done this to book flights from BNE-CDG on CX
 
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+1 on the Paris idea. CX has a lot more business award availability to CDG than LHR from what I've seen. Also if you connect back from CDG rather than a UK airport you'll pay significantly less UK Air Passenger Duty. The cost of the flight MAN-CDG is likely to be less than the APD difference...but otherwise you can still fly CX to CDG then connect into the UK using BA on the award flight for the same points (subject to availability, and I think BA has to go via LHR MAN-CDG). My AA award in business to LHR in 2 weeks is SYD-HKG-CDG on CX, then CDG-LHR on BA. I had to piece the flights together separately using Qantas website to check CX/BA availability when I booked it in Dec as the websites don't always show connecting itinerarys upfront, and HKG-LHR CX flights are the first to go.
 
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