Advice on champagne

I sometimes think people read too much into perceived elitism. People often do things because that is the way that they think it should be said. For example having lived in Germany I say "Tag Hoi-er" (roughly) rather than "Tag How-er" as a lot of people say Tag Heuer. This isn't elitism it is just the way that I understand something should be said. I think then having a laugh at someone who thinks they are doing the right thing (for whatever reason) reflects more poorly on you.

I agree, I'm more concerned with what is the correct pronunciation than what someone else thinks is right. It is someone's name, it is a brand, you can't just say it how you like, you say it how they say it.

My friends also think me strange as I visit Napoli not Naples, Paris (pa-ree, not par-iss), Venezia not Venice, Roma not Rome, etc. as that is the name of the place, as people at that place in that language refer to it.

On that note, it's fun to try to pronounce Reims - which is like saying "Rance". Damn French is difficult.

Je ne parle pas Francais tres bien :( more visits required ;)
 
. I think then having a laugh at someone who thinks they are doing the right thing (for whatever reason) reflects more poorly on you.

By all means make up what you think I'm saying and ignore my previous post that explained the "joke" I enjoy. But one clarification. I did not say I was laughing at anyone.
 
By all means make up what you think I'm saying and ignore my previous post that explained the "joke" I enjoy. But one clarification. I did not say I was laughing at anyone.

Medhead, third defensive post of the day. It's ok, nobody is attacking you personally. You sound like you need the new "CuddleOnQ" service I've named in another thread ;)
 
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Medhead, third defensive post of the day. It's ok, nobody is attacking you personally. You sound like you need the new "CuddleOnQ" service I've named in another thread ;)

Oh, right so it's defensive to correct misinterpretation of my position. Ok then.

Here's one you might like to address for me. If you agree that it doesn't matter how someone says something as long as they do what they think is correct as per Simongr's; why did you even mention the pronunciation of Moët in the first place?
 
Oh, right so it's defensive to correct misinterpretation of my position. Ok then.

Here's one you might like to address for me. If you agree that it doesn't matter how someone says something as long as they do what they think is correct as per Simongr's; why did you even mention the pronunciation of Moët in the first place?

Wow, apologies for setting off the powder keg.

My interpretation of simongr's statement was different to yours.

I couldn't care less about elitism or any such rubbish, there is simply a correct pronunciation and an incorrect one.

I don't judge others based on their pronunciation. Lack of intelligence comes at all ends of the social spectrum. I am that annoying pedantic person who will correct you while also explaining why it is pronounced as such. Then I will buy you a bottle.

Be you a peasant or a king, it don't mean a thing (if it ain't got that swing).
 
On that note, I was speaking French quite fluently after a week. Mr Pushka loved the sound of it and he started speaking it too. Un peu. I did take lessons for months before our trip though.
 
That's a great tour, I did it in 2011 if my memory serves. The Dom tastings post-tour made the hefty fee worthwhile. I was thankful not to be driving!

It was brilliant. We did it in July last year. And just walked around the corner to our B&B.

So many bottles. Tunnel after tunnel like this.
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Wow, apologies for setting off the powder keg.

My interpretation of simongr's statement was different to yours.

I couldn't care less about elitism or any such rubbish, there is simply a correct pronunciation and an incorrect one.

I don't judge others based on their pronunciation. Lack of intelligence comes at all ends of the social spectrum. I am that annoying pedantic person who will correct you while also explaining why it is pronounced as such. Then I will buy you a bottle.

Be you a peasant or a king, it don't mean a thing (if it ain't got that swing).

It doesn't matter what you think about elitism. I'm simply pointing out why the pronunciation is often wrong in Australia. You raised you point about pronunciation in Australia, I was just trying to explain the dynamics.

As for judging people below is what I actually wrote. Far from Laughing at people, I enjoy using the correct pronunication around people who think it is incorrect and who would then adopt a sense of superiority. The joke is on them.

In my family we enjoy the idea of being seen as bush pigs, while using correct pronunciation.
 
It doesn't matter what you think about elitism. I'm simply pointing out why the pronunciation is often wrong in Australia. You raised you point about pronunciation in Australia, I was just trying to explain the dynamics.

As for judging people below is what I actually wrote. Far from Laughing at people, I enjoy using the correct pronunication around people who think it is incorrect and who would then adopt a sense of superiority. The joke is on them.

I too take a small amount of pleasure in that also and I do understand what you mean. This is all tongue in cheek my friend, we are talking about hot button topics here that could change the world ;)
 
On that note, I was speaking French quite fluently after a week. Mr Pushka loved the sound of it and he started speaking it too. Un peu. I did take lessons for months before our trip though.

Impressive. My problem is, I like to visit Italy and Germany as well and my little brain gets confused with cross-border conversions. If only I could focus on one language I might be able to do it well ;)
 
Ok all have read thread from beginning and just want some clarification, is the dozen of Great Western I have put away for my retirement, not the way I should have invested my dollars!!!!:lol:
 

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