AFR's Joe Aston goes BAM!

[Quickstatus]

The best way is to completely ban CL access for all politicians.

And Judges
And ACCC, NACC, whatever other alphabet agency
And any other govt employee

We need standards

There is nothing new and really simple. Conduct oneself with the utmost propriety.

 

[Saab34]

Dutton would do himself a favour if he came out and banned CL for his team. Voters hate this sort of stuff. Would resonate well.

Shock horror. Politicians subjected to the departure lounge or the lower tier lounges. Might give them an opportunity to have a chat with constituents.

 

[Quickstatus]

Dutton would do himself a favour if he came out and banned CL for his team

Who will make the first move Dutton or Albo.

 

[JessicaTam]

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A reminder to keep to the topic and contents of the book, not partisan politics.
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[Mattg]

Politicians and public servants are there to serve the public. It's become pretty clear that the current arrangements do not do this.

 

[jase05]

And in further developments today all of the senior commissioners of … checks notes … the National Anti Corruption Commission have also been given memberships.

Sarcastica obviously

 

[jakeseven7]

Peter Van Onselen asks:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1851075748209312114

“Would anyone be ok about a Treasurer calling up a bank CEO and asking for a lower interest rate on their home loan as a personal favour?”

Fair comparison.

I do it all the time so I don’t care

 

[kamchatsky]

[mod hat]
A reminder to keep to the topic and contents of the book, not partisan politics.
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I understand your requirements, but surely it is almost impossible NOT to talk about partisan politics, given the author of the book/accuser is ex Liberal staffer, and the accused is the Labor PM.

 

[JessicaTam]

I understand your requirements, but surely it is almost impossible NOT to talk about partisan politics, given the author of the book/accuser is ex Liberal staffer, and the accused is the Labor PM.

This thread is already stretching the 'no political posts' on AFF, so it is up to every poster to make sure that line isn't crossed.

 

[justinbrett]

Allegedly it was Andrew Parker at QF who was handling the upgrades.

 

[TheRealTMA]

Very loose use of words. I guess he could then go down the path of ‘someone else did it for me but I don’t know who that was’

Why does anyone believe Aston‘s unsubstantiated claim in the first place.

Rather than sensationalism to sell his book, he now needs to put up his verified source.

 

[DejaBrew]

Sharri: "And we've even seen this week that publicly, the Prime Minister has already admitted there was a number that he called for upgrades."

Reporter: "Did you call Allan Joyce personally for these upgrades?"
Albanese: "Look the... the idea... Qantas have a... ah... a number in terms of bookings, ah.. that are private bookings."

Sharri: "So Albanese there already admitting requesting upgrades..."

Huh??? So Sharri's 'smoking gun' that proves without a shadow of doubt that the PM requested upgrades - in breach of Ministerial Standards - was that he went on the record in saying that Qantas has "...a number [for] private bookings." Wow. Case closed, lock him in jail and throw away the key. And god help the rest of us who know about 13 13 13.... </sarcasm>

To be clear, I'm not trying to defend the PM or the idea that politicians/officials are breaching standards etc by accepting gifts or using their positions to advantage, but surely we need to demand higher editorial and reporting standards than this?

 

[TheRealTMA]

Towards the end of the article there was a comment on Clive Palmer who this week said that the CL should be abolished. He was rubbished by the ABC as you would expect but there reason for rubbishing him lends wait to his call.

Lol. When was the last time Clive flew commercial rather than on own jet?

 

[TheRealTMA]

Huh??? So Sharri's 'smoking gun' that proves without a shadow of doubt that the PM requested upgrades - in breach of Ministerial Standards - was that he went on the record in saying that Qantas has "...a number [for] private bookings." Wow. Case closed, lock him in jail and throw away the key. And god help the rest of us who know about 13 13 13.... </sarcasm>

To be clear, I'm not trying to defend the PM or the idea that politicians/officials are breaching standards etc by accepting gifts or using their positions to advantage, but surely we need to demand higher editorial and reporting standards than this?

Agreed.

What’s the difference between CL hotline and P1 or WP hotline requesting upgrades for private travel or business travel?

 

[justinbrett]

Lol. When was the last time Clive flew commercial rather than on own jet?

Agree, there are current MPs who have done much worse to QF who still hold membership.

 

[drron]

Lol. When was the last time Clive flew commercial rather than on own jet?

I'm not sure but possibly he had the odd sip or 2 in the CL before he was taken to his own plane.
If he didn't then why the heck did they dis invite him.
Still not a good look for QF dis inviting him when he didn't vote the way they wanted.

 

[sudoer]

The best way is to completely ban CL access for all politicians.

I can see a world where this happens, but they're allowed to continue earning SC and accessing whatever published QFF benefits are extended to the frequent flying public. I'm sure most of them would easily earn P1 without their CL status.

The CLs turn into ghost towns without pollies, so QF converts them to P1 (and maybe LTP) lounges as a covert way to get the pollies back in.

I'll come back and find this post in a few years when it comes true

 

[DejaBrew]

I'll come back and find this post in a few years when it comes true

You'll need to update your handle to "Nostra-sudoer-us"

 

[Sprucegoose]

Why does anyone believe Aston‘s unsubstantiated claim in the first place.

I am not sure they do.

For something that could be an innocent mistake, the PM has spent considerable time in denial, including some carefully crafted pressers.

I haven't read the book; however, it's the second one I thought I would buy but have been unable.

 

[Quickstatus]

If I HUACA enough, can I get to the real QF Call Centre (C-suite)?