Air Crash Investigation

[Sprucegoose]

Material for the show is slowing down, thankfully.

 

[Major]

It is Season 9. Already shown on Fox. Season 11 is the most current, but I am waiting to see what Episodes season 12 will have for us!

As the ratings are over for the year we will only be viewing repeats, unfortunately.

 

[mannej]

As the ratings are over for the year we will only be viewing repeats, unfortunately.

Youtube have the 3 new ACI episodes from Season 11, apparently there are going to be two new ones.

No info has been released about Season 12 yet.

 

[jb747]

Material for the show is slowing down, thankfully.

I hope you were touching wood as you said that.

Looking back at the episode list, they've not always gone with recent incidents, but have often gone back and looked at some of the older ones.

 

[Walter_Plinge]

Material for the show is slowing down, thankfully.

That's to be expected. At the start of the series there was 6+ decades of material, much from the early days of commercial aviation. Flying is so safe these days that there isn't much around. I suppose the makers could use Russian, Chinese and African aviation incidents - those areas produce most of the fatalities these days.

 

[jb747]

Flying is so safe these days that there isn't much around.

Major incidents amongst western airlines are certainly rare, but there are plenty of events that would make worthy fodder. The Cathay A330 of a year or so ago, Emirates A340 in Melbourne (in fact, tailscrapes in general), LOT a couple of weeks ago, QF32. AF 447 is certainly worth a closer look now that the data recorders have been recovered.

The positive of late has been that major incidents have not been converted to major accidents. That's a trend that I don't think will last.

 

[AdMEL]

Major incidents amongst western airlines are certainly rare, but there are plenty of events that would make worthy fodder. The Cathay A330 of a year or so ago, Emirates A340 in Melbourne (in fact, tailscrapes in general), LOT a couple of weeks ago, QF32. AF 447 is certainly worth a closer look now that the data recorders have been recovered.

The positive of late has been that major incidents have not been converted to major accidents. That's a trend that I don't think will last.

Are you referring to Western airlines being lucky of late?

Lets hope the Emirates A340 tail is repaired properly so it doesn't become an accident in years to come.

 

[jb747]

Are you referring to Western airlines being lucky of late?

The saying "the harder I work, the luckier I get" might be relevant here. Over the past couple of decades, there has been a confluence of technology and airmen, basically from the Vietnam era/cold war. A high percentage of airline crews were either ex military, or came up through GA. What is happening at an accelerating rate now (in some parts of the world) is that the experience level of crews is falling...combined with them having no 'background' to fall back on anyway. Modern aircraft are not inherently 'safe'...they are just as easy to crash as they always have been. But, we are now combining that with crews who know little more than using the automatics. Colgan in the USA was an eye opener for them, but AF447 will be for those others who care to look.

Lets hope the Emirates A340 tail is repaired properly so it doesn't become an accident in years to come.

I think you'll find that an entirely new aft fuselage was installed, with the aircraft being 'broken' at manufacturing junctions....which would make it as strong (or otherwise) as it was originally.

 

[codash1099]

There is another similarly named program (don't blame me - I'm old) which looks like a rehash of the old episodes, gathering together similar failures/errors. Shown on one of the Foxtel documentary channels.

 

[casanovawa]

There is also the fact that for many years not too many entirely new aircraft models came onto the markets, more just stretched versions of existing proven models...

With the relatively new A380, the just released 747-8 and 787 and the soon to be released A350 you will be getting a whole bunch of newish aircraft with new design techniques and materials who haven't been around long enough to potentially find all the hidden floors, so the chance for some new accidents over the next several years has probably increased... You have already had the A380 engine incident and wasn't there a fire on one of the 787 test models and just luckily they didn't result in crashes....

 

[Awesom Andy]

There is also the fact that for many years not too many entirely new aircraft models came onto the markets, more just stretched versions of existing proven models...

The DC10 certainly comes to mind for me... although, after all the issues were solved, they weren't bad birds to fly... but by that time, nobody wanted to be on it.

 

[oz_mark]

The DC10 certainly comes to mind for me... although, after all the issues were solved, they weren't bad birds to fly... but by that time, nobody wanted to be on it.

I believe that Colonel Sanders can fry
and that pigs and even DC-10s can fly

(From NOT THE NINE O'CLOCK NEWS I BELIEVE SONG - YouTube)

 

[Danger]

A friend emailed Cineflix, the producers of Air Crash/Mayday based in Toronto, asking whether or not there are plans for an episode on QF32. He also sent a link to this discussion. Here's the response he got overnight:

Dear [NAME]

Thank you for your interest in Air Crash Investigation. The thread is great, thank you for sharing, I have shared it with the members of our production team as well.

We are looking into the Qantas Airways crash as we agree it is a great story however we must wait for the official crash report to be out as it is our starting point on getting the facts straight and we will not do an episode without it. It is supposed to come by the end of this year meaning we may be able to do it in our 12th season but these things often take longer than anticipated so there is no guarantee. Rest assured if we can, we’ll do it.

Thanks for watching!
[NAME]
Production Coordinator
​

 

[dfcatch]

I don't think Qantas would like it referred to as a "crash".

 

[casanovawa]

The Air France one would be interesting too, but it may be a quite a bit longer until there is a final report on that one...

 

[Aussie Dingbat]

Hopefully they do use the Qantas incident for an episode as it'd be pretty interesting.

 

[jb747]

I'm sure RdeC wouldn't like it called a crash either. It was the exact opposite...a very nice save.

But, sadly, I really don't think any of these shows would do it justice. They are far too dumbed down.

 

[casanovawa]

Awww, i guess this series is the best we have...

Do you think the 4 Corners report did it justice JB???

 

[jb747]

Awww, i guess this series is the best we have...

Do you think the 4 Corners report did it justice JB???

Yeh, I thought they did a pretty decent job. But, the ATSB report will be the most complete, and least sensationalist.

 

[Danger]

I understand the comments regarding use of the word "crash" and agree it isn't appropriate in this case. However, let's not get too hung up on it. The name of the show is 'Air Crash Investigation' not 'Air Incident Investigation' and plenty of the episodes cover non-crashes.