Air Crash Investigation

[markj23]

I understand the comments regarding use of the word "crash" and agree it isn't appropriate in this case. However, let's not get too hung up on it. The name of the show is 'Air Crash Investigation' not 'Air Incident Investigation' and plenty of the episodes cover non-crashes.

In other markets around the world the term "crash" isnt used in the name of the show. Mayday, Air Emergency, and Air Disasters are some of the other names. I guess the "crash" gets our attention more

 

[NM]

In other markets around the world the term "crash" isnt used in the name of the show. Mayday, Air Emergency, and Air Disasters are some of the other names. I guess the "crash" gets our attention more

Some internal engine parts and bits of the wing and engine cowl etc did "crash" to the ground. But as noted, incident or perhaps even accident more correctly describe the event.

 

[Mogul]

Was waiting for the red eye one evening in Perth when it came on screens at 11.00pm some people couldn't get away from the screen quick enough.

 

[casanovawa]

Some people are wusses...

 

[Walter_Plinge]

Watching an episode of the latest series (TAM Air Flight 3054) I see the props department is still using the brown stationery-store archive box they used in the beginning. It's quite battered and torn now. Usually it appears at the end of an investigation when everyone is putting things away. This time it appears at the beginning when they are looking for maintenance records.

TAM Air 3054 was good but I couldn't follow the explanation why the crash occurred. Had to go to Wikipedia later to get a clearer explanation. Turns out some crucial facts were missed in the episode.

 

[freepyjamas]

Sorry if this has already been covered, but just saw the ACI QF32 episode. Given that it was more of a save than a crash, not hugely dramatic. But plenty of footage of QF metal with bits blown off it...

 

[Danger]

Sorry if this has already been covered, but just saw the ACI QF32 episode. Given that it was more of a save than a crash, not hugely dramatic. But plenty of footage of QF metal with bits blown off it...

Really? I wasn't aware it had been made. Where did you see it?

 

[mannej]

Sorry if this has already been covered, but just saw the ACI QF32 episode. Given that it was more of a save than a crash, not hugely dramatic. But plenty of footage of QF metal with bits blown off it...

Is it not a rip off of ACI? I hadn't thought they'd been released yet

 

[mhanson88]

Yeah I watch it too and the way they place their investigations, you'll really appreciate how they do things. Now when I fly, I feel a lot safer.

 

[freepyjamas]

Is it not a rip off of ACI? I hadn't thought they'd been released yet

Hmm, it may have been... The VoiceOver guy was different. Was on Discovery Channel (I think) last night... Caught the last half. They rolled two incidents into the one show - started with UA232 at Sioux City, and then QF32 (same kind of problem with an engine blowout causing hydraulic failure) Apologies if it was a different show, didn't realize there was a competitor to ACI.

 

[UP4014]

I think the best air accident shows where "Blackbox" as shown in Australia, far more concise than the rambling and repeating that goes on in these shows and none of the re-enactments of screeming passengers and sweating pilots which I think detracts from the factual evidence they want to present.

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Matt

 

[Dee Thom]

the re-enactments of screeming passengers and sweating pilots which I think detracts from the factual evidence they want to present.

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Matt

Are you sure you weren't watching "Flying High" ?

Cheers,
Dee

 

[Dee Thom]

the re-enactments of screeming passengers and sweating pilots which I think detracts from the factual evidence they want to present.

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Matt

Shades of "Flying High" !!!

Cheers,
Dee.

 

[codash1099]

Hmm, it may have been... The VoiceOver guy was different. Was on Discovery Channel (I think) last night... Caught the last half. They rolled two incidents into the one show - started with UA232 at Sioux City, and then QF32 (same kind of problem with an engine blowout causing hydraulic failure) Apologies if it was a different show, didn't realize there was a competitor to ACI.

That program is a bit of a rehash of ACI episodes. The one last night also included bits of the Air New Zealand A320 crash in France, showing what happens when the computer stops responding.

 

[Danger]

I've just watched the episode Missed Approach, about the Korean Air 747 that crashed at Guam in August 1997.

The aircraft was engulfed in flames. New Zealander Barry Small was on the flight and was one of only 25 who survived. In the episode he said "They estimate that those top lockers [overhead compartments] had over 462L of burnable alcohol on board. Had the plane have been full, it could be at least twice that amount". The voiceover continued: "During the crash, Small believes that the duty free alcohol mixed with oxygen in the plane's ceiling. The combination ignited with deadly results.

I find that quite interesting. Every on-board duty free catalogue has several bottles of booze for sale. The flammable nature of the alcohol combined with the bottles' weight would surely be a worthy reason for removing them from flights.

 

[JeffVader]

Shades of "Flying High" !!!

Cheers,
Dee.

Remember
'assume crash positions!'

 

[elbarto]

Sorry if this has already been covered, but just saw the ACI QF32 episode. Given that it was more of a save than a crash, not hugely dramatic. But plenty of footage of QF metal with bits blown off it...

How? It's part of season 13 which hasn't aired yet.

 

[wallacej]

Before virgin lounge staff started hiding the foxtel remote control I would have much pleasure in changing the channel on the big screen to this program. I am sure others thought I was nutty

 

[casanovawa]

The aircraft was engulfed in flames. New Zealander Barry Small was on the flight and was one of only 25 who survived. In the episode he said "They estimate that those top lockers [overhead compartments] had over 462L of burnable alcohol on board. Had the plane have been full, it could be at least twice that amount". The voiceover continued: "During the crash, Small believes that the duty free alcohol mixed with oxygen in the plane's ceiling. The combination ignited with deadly results.

I find that quite interesting. Every on-board duty free catalogue has several bottles of booze for sale. The flammable nature of the alcohol combined with the bottles' weight would surely be a worthy reason for removing them from flights.

I guess with the amount of alcohol on board to serve the passengers during the flight, specially the rate at which the J and F ones go through it, a few extra bottles of duty free alcohol for sale don't really make much of a difference...

 

[Dee Thom]

I guess with the amount of alcohol on board to serve the passengers during the flight, specially the rate at which the J and F ones go through it, a few extra bottles of duty free alcohol for sale don't really make much of a difference...

Most of the alcohol consumed in F and J is wine/sparkling wine with a very low flash point. Having said that, fortified wines and after dinner snifters have a very high flash point, especially if to many are consumed.

Cheers,
Dee.