ALL QF's 330's to get lay flat Business seating - Including Domestic

[mannej]

Yes they do, you can choose your own audio channel. What they don't have is AVOD!

That is exactly what I said.

That's correct - a minority of them do have AVOD, the rest are all pop down screens.

 

[ajw373]

maybe there is a trick... but as an ordinary passenger, accessing the qantas website, how can I tell which aircraft I will be on without the use of special tools (which I don't have)? this refers to before making a booking... after booking is easier to work out what you are on.

As I have said the same is also true for SQ and CX too. On CX do a booking it will show you the basic model flying, not the specific variant. After you book it may show the specific variant or you can tell by seat layout. Same with Qantas too. With SQ the booking page shows the basic variant but you need to click on the model to see the specific variant and as I mentioned before where they now have 3 777-300ERs with new product but same seat layout you cannot tell the difference. You just need to know they are on SQ318 (319 I think) plus some Tokyo rotations.

I give you the challenge, try and book a 777 to London and see if you can see the difference between SQ318 and SQ306. The difference is 318 is the new product, 306 old, but see if you can work it out from their website.

GGK-SIN is a bit of a unique route with SQ. The non refurbs are almost gone now anyway (but had the advantage of large 18 seat F cabins for the cgk market).

What so you agree that other airlines have the 'same issue' of mixed configuration, mix products?

As for CX I can't really speak for the massive differences... regional is regional to me. Each of the variants has it pros and cons. But I rarely watch IFE and the flights are short. Cx regional gives a330 gives me 2-2-2 at a minimum, but on QF I could get 2-3-2! that's a huge difference in product. And even the oldest of CXs regional products surpasses QF domestic business offerings in terms of seat pitch and recline.

Maybe up front, but try down the back. Big difference, but again at least you admit there are differences which was my point.

So upshot Qantas is not alone in having differening product on the same subfleet on the same routes.

 

[ajw373]

That is exactly what I said.

You may have said that 10 posts back. What I was relying to, hence why I quoted said words was:

But it is IFE. What the older 737's don't have is personal IFE.

This is incorrect as the older non AVOID ones do have personal IFE, but only audio.

 

[mannej]

You may have said that 10 posts back. What I was relying to, hence why I quoted said words was:



This is incorrect as the older non AVOID ones do have personal IFE, but only audio.

Just as your maths is incorrect - 236 is only 3 posts away from 239...
Just to satisfy your knit picking, the older 737's do not have personal screens (the context was crystal clear considering I did make reference to the pop-down screens).

P.s what is AVOID - I thought that was the system on the older 330's and non-refurbed 747's

 

[ajw373]

Just as your maths is incorrect - 236 is only 3 posts away from 239...
Just to satisfy your knit picking, the older 737's do not have personal screens (the context was crystal clear considering I did make reference to the pop-down screens).

P.s what is AVOID - I thought that was the system on the older 330's and non-refurbed 747's

3, 10posts who cares I was responding to the post I quoted, that is why I went to the trouble of quoting it. And your right the older 737's don't have personal screens, never said they did, but since when does IFE mean screens? IFE means in flight entertainment, which can include a combination of things including audio. As for AVOID vs AVOD, blame Microsoft.

 

[mannej]

3, 10posts who cares I was responding to the post I quoted, that is why I went to the trouble of quoting it. And your right the older 737's don't have personal screens, never said they did, but since when does IFE mean screens? IFE means in flight entertainment, which can include a combination of things including audio. As for AVOID vs AVOD, blame Microsoft.

You are nit picking, so I thought I would return the favour

Yes I am fully aware of what Entertainment refers to, however I was quite clearly referring to the personal screens. Sometimes you need to look at the context of a post before replying.

 

[ajw373]

You are nit picking, so I thought I would return the favour

Yes I am fully aware of what Entertainment refers to, however I was quite clearly referring to the personal screens. Sometimes you need to look at the context of a post before replying.

Actually I did read back, all I see is a post (not from you) correcting someone who said some 737 have no IFE, by saying they have IFE but no AVOD, then one from you saing some have AVOD, some had screens, then another from you saying they don't have personal IFE. When in fact they do, audio IFE which the person can choose, that make it personal IFE does it not?

 

[MEL_Traveller]

well... my bad... it seems the CX and KA websites have recently changed. until recently the specific aircraft type was displayed in their timetables and against search results... but this seems to no longer be the case... with just a generic aircraft type shown.

 

[ajw373]

well... my bad... it seems the CX and KA websites have recently changed. until recently the specific aircraft type was displayed in their timetables and against search results... but this seems to no longer be the case... with just a generic aircraft type shown.

The first time I made a booking in CX was November last year. It was like that back then. Since then have flown them 4 times SIN-BKK-SIN and each time the same.

 

[Happy Trails]

CX does have the benefit of being able to peruse the seat map before proceeding to payment.

 

[cmon0005]

CX does have the benefit of being able to peruse the seat map before proceeding to payment.

But also that someone with no status can nab the bulkhead

 

[Mr_Orange]

But also that someone with no status can nab the bulkhead

Depending on height, bulkhead seats are not all they are cracked up to be!

Also, this thread is getting way, way OT!!

 

[JessicaTam]

Depending on height, bulkhead seats are not all they are cracked up to be!

Also, this thread is getting way, way OT!!

Agreed on both counts. I tend to avoid bulkheads as I can't stretch my legs out under the seat in front.

And what happened to the discussion being about the new QF A330 fitout?

 

[Awesom Andy]

And what happened to the discussion being about the new QF A330 fitout?

It got enhanced and simplified.

 

[Himeno]

It got enhanced and simplified.

It is fairer to Qantas to talk about what the competition does on their A330s.

 

[mannej]

It is fairer to Qantas to talk about what the competition does on their A330s.

Are we talking about the PE debate? It is funny why no one can answer why SQ (QF competitor) don't see the need to install it on their 330's currently...

 

[Mr_Orange]

Are we talking about the PE debate? It is funny why no one can answer why SQ (QF competitor) don't see the need to install it on their 330's currently...

But CX has! Also a QF competitor.

 

[OATEK]

Are we talking about the PE debate? It is funny why no one can answer why SQ (QF competitor) don't see the need to install it on their 330's currently...

Must be making enough from the routes QF have dropped not to bother.

 

[wenglock.mok]

Looks like EBB goes back into service on 31 July --

QF501 BNE-SYD
QF571 SYD-PER

Then on 01 August --

QF650 PER-BNE
QF597 BNE-PER

The configuration of the aircraft looks like (according to the GDS) 34J / 269Y (although 57AB and 58AB might be blocked off on transcon services).

You'll know it's EBB if the seatmap has one of the following features --

1. Row 1 is AB EF JK, Rows 2 - 5 AB DF JK, and Row 6 only has AB and JK (no middle block),
2. The middle block of economy starts at Row 23 (Row 24 for the international A332s, and Row 25 for the current domestic A332s).

 

[moa999]

So is it definite that VH-EBB has the new product?
Or just a new paintjob?