ALL QF's 330's to get lay flat Business seating - Including Domestic

hutch · Jul 15, 2016

esseeeayeenn said:
No I was referring to the seat maps for the aircraft type which you see pre-booking confirmation.
Sadly Qantas only let you see the actual aircraft layout after you book.
Not a problem for those of us with an Expert Flyer subscription but it is for the rest.

True. But not too sure what that has to do with the OP's predictament

moa999 · Jul 16, 2016

VH-EBR out this morning making 330-200 refurb #13. Looks like it did a straight swap with VH-EBO after arrival last night.
With both EBO and EBQ in the shed, only three non-refurb aircraft are operating

Updated based on Qantas Source posts / FR24/FA data / YSSY board / above

-- Aircraft undergoing refurb
BNE-VH-EBQ 330-200 - In 12/7/16 Exp 10/8
BNE-VH-EBO 330-200 - In 16/7/16 Exp 14/8

-- Non-refurbs still operating
2 - 36J/199Y Int/Dom with SkyBed I, RC AVOD - EBG, EBL
1 - 36J/268Y Dom with 2x3x2 J Recaro workbench, Panasonic AVOD - EBP

-- Summary
Refurb complete
A330-300 10 / 10 - QPA, QPB, QPC, QPD, QPE, QPF, QPG, QPH, QPI, QPJ
A330-200 13 / 18 - EBA, EBB, EBC, EBD, EBE, EBF, EBJ, EBK, EBM, EBN, EBR, EBS, EBV
330-300s - 28J/ 269Y, J Panasonic ex3 16" IFE, Y Panasonic exLite 11" IFE
330-200s - 28J/ 243Y, J Panasonic ex3 16" IFE, Y Panasonic 9" IFE (8. EBM-EBS, EBV), 8" iPadMini (10. EBA-EBG, EBJ-EBL)
Notes.
- QPH,QPI,QPJ yet to be painted to New Roo
- 18 final 330-200s are EBA-EBG, EBJ-EBS, EBV (EBH, EBI to RAAF, EBT, EBU never registered)

moa999 · Jul 16, 2016

Domestically, you will need to be unlucky to catch VH-EBP (about 1 in 12)
Indeed the last three days it has only been operating SYD-MEL-SYD-MEL etc, so maybe QF are trying to keep it off the PER routes

Internationally, EBG/EBL appear to operate (along with an occasional east coast triangle route)
SYD-HNL (QF3/4) - seemingly all of the 5/wk flights
SYD-BKK (QF23/24)- 3 of 7/wk flights
SYD-HKG (QF83/180) - 1 of 2/wk flights
SYD-PVG (QF129/130)- 3 of 7/wk flights

So unless you are flying from SYD good chance you will be on a refurb

My 'guess' would be that mid-August EBP and one of EBG/EBL go in for refurb, leaving the SYD-HNL routes as the only one with a non-refurb until mid-September

Pleb Status · Jul 16, 2016

moa999 said:
VH-EBR out this morning making 330-200 refurb #13. Looks like it did a straight swap with VH-EBO after arrival last night.
With both EBO and EBQ in the shed, only three non-refurb aircraft are operating

Updated based on Qantas Source posts / FR24/FA data / YSSY board / above

-- Aircraft undergoing refurb
BNE-VH-EBQ 330-200 - In 12/7/16 Exp 10/8
BNE-VH-EBO 330-200 - In 16/7/16 Exp 14/8

-- Non-refurbs still operating
2 - 36J/199Y Int/Dom with SkyBed I, RC AVOD - EBG, EBL
1 - 36J/268Y Dom with 2x3x2 J Recaro workbench, Panasonic AVOD - EBP

-- Summary
Refurb complete
A330-300 10 / 10 - QPA, QPB, QPC, QPD, QPE, QPF, QPG, QPH, QPI, QPJ
A330-200 13 / 18 - EBA, EBB, EBC, EBD, EBE, EBF, EBJ, EBK, EBM, EBN, EBR, EBS, EBV
330-300s - 28J/ 269Y, J Panasonic ex3 16" IFE, Y Panasonic exLite 11" IFE
330-200s - 28J/ 243Y, J Panasonic ex3 16" IFE, Y Panasonic 9" IFE (8. EBM-EBS, EBV), 8" iPadMini (10. EBA-EBG, EBJ-EBL)
Notes.
- QPH,QPI,QPJ yet to be painted to New Roo
- 18 final 330-200s are EBA-EBG, EBJ-EBS, EBV (EBH, EBI to RAAF, EBT, EBU never registered)

Although inconvenienced by the aircraft change, I can now say I was the last person ever to sit in my seat on EBO then....

Just need to avoid EBP. I have been scheduled either EBG or EBJ in October.

eric2011 · Jul 16, 2016

moa999 said:
My 'guess' would be that mid-August EBP and one of EBG/EBL go in for refurb, leaving the SYD-HNL routes as the only one with a non-refurb until mid-September

Still got my fingers and other body parts crossed for my QF3/4 trips on 21/28 Sept. May get lucky

baggyred · Jul 18, 2016

moa999 said:
VH-EBR out this morning making 330-200 refurb #13. Looks like it did a straight swap with VH-EBO after arrival last night.
With both EBO and EBQ in the shed, only three non-refurb aircraft are operating

Updated based on Qantas Source posts / FR24/FA data / YSSY board / above

-- Aircraft undergoing refurb
BNE-VH-EBQ 330-200 - In 12/7/16 Exp 10/8
BNE-VH-EBO 330-200 - In 16/7/16 Exp 14/8

-- Non-refurbs still operating
2 - 36J/199Y Int/Dom with SkyBed I, RC AVOD - EBG, EBL
1 - 36J/268Y Dom with 2x3x2 J Recaro workbench, Panasonic AVOD - EBP

-- Summary
Refurb complete
A330-300 10 / 10 - QPA, QPB, QPC, QPD, QPE, QPF, QPG, QPH, QPI, QPJ
A330-200 13 / 18 - EBA, EBB, EBC, EBD, EBE, EBF, EBJ, EBK, EBM, EBN, EBR, EBS, EBV
330-300s - 28J/ 269Y, J Panasonic ex3 16" IFE, Y Panasonic exLite 11" IFE
330-200s - 28J/ 243Y, J Panasonic ex3 16" IFE, Y Panasonic 9" IFE (8. EBM-EBS, EBV), 8" iPadMini (10. EBA-EBG, EBJ-EBL)
Notes.
- QPH,QPI,QPJ yet to be painted to New Roo
- 18 final 330-200s are EBA-EBG, EBJ-EBS, EBV (EBH, EBI to RAAF, EBT, EBU never registered)

My Per -> Syd trip this week has had an equipment change to the sole remaining workbench config.

I don;t mind the old skybeds as a domestic product - so wouldn't be unhappy with one of those - but alas a quick view of the economy section reveals that I must be on EBP

Flywithd · Jul 19, 2016

moa999 said:
-- Non-refurbs still operating
2 - 36J/199Y Int/Dom with SkyBed I, RC AVOD - EBG, EBL

Will be the last 2 to get reconfigured... probably will be around until 2018 to operate HNL and other Asian routes.

hutch · Jul 19, 2016

dzinh said:
Will be the last 2 to get reconfigured... probably will be around until 2018 to operate HNL and other Asian routes.

Why are you suggesting 2018? They're on track to get done this year.

Flywithd · Jul 19, 2016

hutch said:
Why are you suggesting 2018? They're on track to get done this year.

Just a thought... skybeds config can hold more J pax.

hutch · Jul 19, 2016

Which probably supports why they have been done last... that and poor competition to HNL. But considering all the other A330s will be refurbished within the next 2 months, it'd be pretty odd for QF not to finish off the job and just wait another couple of years before then doing it? Plus they've said it'll be done this year.

What's the difference in time between BNE-NRT and SYD-HNL?

moa999 · Jul 19, 2016

Pretty sure they will be done despite the loss of J capacity.. if only to get rid of the Rockwell Collins IFE.

But of course they still need to support it in the two older 747s they kept flying OEB and OJM, which also haven't received their promised mini-refurb (my assumption is this will occur in Sept/Oct once the 332s are complete)

swilk · Jul 21, 2016

moa999 said:
Domestically, you will need to be unlucky to catch VH-EBP (about 1 in 12)

Guess I've just been unlucky then as my last 4 flights from PER to MEL/SYD have had the aircraft changed in the last couple of days from a refurb to the old 2-3-2. The return flights have all been refurbs though.

I specifically checked expert flyer to get the refurbed bird but missed out each time.

moa999 · Jul 21, 2016

My prior suggestions that QF were keeping VH-EBM off the PER routes have proven to be incorrect - so my 1/12 chance remains (up until a week ago it was more like 3/12 swilk)

pauly7 · Jul 22, 2016

swilk said:
Guess I've just been unlucky then as my last 4 flights from PER to MEL/SYD have had the aircraft changed in the last couple of days from a refurb to the old 2-3-2. The return flights have all been refurbs though.

I specifically checked expert flyer to get the refurbed bird but missed out each time.

That is actually quite funny, I've had the old bird allocates to me a few times PER to MEL but when I've walked on board - Marc Newson Suites have greeted me! Perhaps you are the poor person who EBM is knocked onto! (Sorry!)

milehighclub · Jul 22, 2016

moa999 said:
Pretty sure they will be done despite the loss of J capacity.. if only to get rid of the Rockwell Collins IFE.

But of course they still need to support it in the two older 747s they kept flying OEB and OJM, which also haven't received their promised mini-refurb (my assumption is this will occur in Sept/Oct once the 332s are complete)

One of them has already had a mini refurb (forget which aircraft)

baggyred · Jul 22, 2016

moa999 said:
My prior suggestions that QF were keeping VH-EBM off the PER routes have proven to be incorrect - so my 1/12 chance remains (up until a week ago it was more like 3/12 swilk)

It looks like every 10 days it does QF 566.

Might have one more perth flight before going in for refurb

Flyerqf · Jul 23, 2016

moa999 said:
My prior suggestions that QF were keeping VH-EBM off the PER routes have proven to be incorrect - so my 1/12 chance remains (up until a week ago it was more like 3/12 swilk)

EBM has been refurbed

moa999 · Jul 23, 2016

Yep meant EBP, the remaining domestic 332

Aussie_flyer · Jul 23, 2016

moa999 said:
Yep meant EBP, the remaining domestic 332

Indeed its been doing almost exclusively trans-cons this week and the winds have been making for some long flight times too, especially BNE-PER!

JohnK · Jul 27, 2016

First time in one of these refurbished A330s in business today BNE-HKG. I don't understand the hype. Seat narrow and uncomfortable to sit upright and when flat no room for legs/feet to move and panicked a couple of times thinking I'd get stuck.

Give me Skybed anytime.

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