ALL QF's 330's to get lay flat Business seating - Including Domestic

[Mr_Orange]

Question re: bassinet
Does the new A330-300 business suite (row 1) have bassinet that anyone has seen?
Thinking of taking the little one and hoping there is a bassinet.

And similarly, do the -200s have bassinets at row 1?

 

[hotpaws]

I am currently booked on QF23/QF24 SYD-BKK-SYD, leaving 23/12, returning 30/12. Both ways have new config A330's scheduled. Having a look at the rest of the week, most flights to BKK are new config. That is not surprising, as by my calculation, there will be 7/10 A330-300s refurbished, and likely 1 in process. This would leave 2 unrefurbished birds flying. I also noticed that there are more A330-200's flying internationally at that time, on flights which are usually A330-300.
Hoping my flights will keep this config, I am looking forward to trying the new business suites.

 

[aussiel]

Question re: bassinet
Does the new A330-300 business suite (row 1) have bassinet that anyone has seen?
Thinking of taking the little one and hoping there is a bassinet.

The -300s do appear to have a Bassinet available for 1A and 1K, if you must!

 

[cmon0005]

The -300s do appear to have a Bassinet available for 1A and 1K, if you must!

Thanks, I have since made a booking over the phone with QF and they have allocated 1F and 1K for us.

 

[RickyT84]

VH-EBF is due to come back to BNE from SIN tomorrow (Wednesday) and will go straight into conversion.

 

[Nizar]

by my calculation, there will be 7/10 A330-300s refurbished, and likely 1 in process.

Where are we at with the A330-200s ?
A similar ratio ?

 

[moa999]

By end of year could be 8 of 10 330-300s if they squeeze in a non C-Check aircraft (eg. QPJ , maybe QPH).
Will be at 7 of 18 330-200s by end September with EBF and EBK, so could be at 10 of 18 by end of year.
(All uninformed speculation of course)

 

[Flyerqf]

By end of year could be 8 of 10 330-300s if they squeeze in a non C-Check aircraft (eg. QPJ , maybe QPH).
Will be at 7 of 18 330-200s by end September with EBF and EBK, so could be at 10 of 18 by end of year.
(All uninformed speculation of course)

I'm sure I read recently that Alan Joyce was quoted as saying there are currently 10 refurbs completed and 6 more due by end of year (likely to be 7 333 and 9 332) including all JQ returns.

I'd then expect that there would be 18 by end of Jan (8 and 10), 21 by end of March (9 and 12), 24 by end of May (10 and 14) and the remaining 4 332s by end of October.

Keeping in mind that I believe they can only have 2 A330s in the hangar at one time, therefore all other maintenance has to be squeezed in between refurbs, which slows down the project a bit.

 

[madrooster]

Keeping in mind that I believe they can only have 2 A330s in the hangar at one time, therefore all other maintenance has to be squeezed in between refurbs, which slows down the project a bit.

It's possible to fit 3 in the hangar at one time, with only 2 for heavy maintenance. The 3rd bay can be used for light maintenance but they are able to do refurbs in the middle bay. I believe they want that middle bay empty in case they have an unscheduled issue that requires hangar space to look at.

 

[moa999]

VH-EBF in the air from QPG heading back to BNE as QF6010.
VH-EBK last shown at SIN but has presumably positioned to QPG by now.

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Updated based on Qantas Source posts / FR24 data / YSSY board / above

-- Current aircraft in Brisbane maintenance
VH-QPE 330-300 In 4/8/15 (SIN repaint 25/4-12/5) Expect out early-Oct
VH-EBF 330-200 In 27/8/15 (repainted in SIN 5/8/15-26/8 from JQ paint). Expect out ~25/9

-- Summary
Refurb complete
A330-300 5 / 10 - QPA, QPB, QPC, QPD, QPI
A330-200 5 / 18 - EBA, EBB, EBJ, EBS, EBV (+EBK)
330-300s - 28J/ 269Y, J Panasonic ex3 16" IFE, Y Panasonic exLite 11" IFE
330-200s - 28J/ 243Y, J Panasonic ex3 16" IFE, Y Panasonic 9" IFE (8. EBM-EBS, EBV), 8" iPadMini (10. EBA-EBG, EBJ-EBL)
Notes.
- QPI yet to be painted to New Roo
- 18 final 330-200s expected to be EBA-EBG, EBJ-EBS, EBV (EBH, EBI to RAAF, EBT, EBU never registered)
- Currently 17 330-200s in QF colours (inc EBF)

-- Refurbishment history
VH-EBV 330-200 - 1mth 15days - In 16/11/14 Out 31/12/14
VH-QPA 330-300 - 2mth 13days - In 3/11/14 Out 16/1/15, C8 check (SIN repaint 2/8-20/8 )
VH-EBA 330-200 - 1mth 12days - In 1/1/15 Out 13/2/15
VH-QPC 330-300 - 2mth 6days - In 17/1/15 Out 23/3/15, C8 check (SIN repaint 16/7/15-2/8/15 )
VH-EBJ 330-200 - 1mth 3days - In 14/3/15 Out 17/4/15 (fresh from SIN repaint from JQ from 27/2-13/3)
VH-QPB 330-300 - 2mth 7 days - In 16/2/15 Out 23/4/15 (fresh from SIN repaint 31/1-16/2, C8 check)
VH-EBS 330-200 - 30days - In 26/4/15 Out 25/5/15
VH-QPD 330-300 - 2mth 2 days - In 23/4/15 - out 25/6/15 (SIN repaint 15/3-30/3)
VH-EBB 330-200 - 27 days - In 8/6/15 - Out 4/7/15
VH-QPI 330-300 - 28 days - In 7/7/15 Out 3/8/15 (Still needs repaint, no C check)
VH-EBK 330-200 - 31 days - In 22/7/15 Out 22/8/15. In SIN for paint since 22-26/8

-- In Singapore for painting (presumably) -300s only (all the -200s are already New Roo apart from the JQ aircraft)
VH-EBK - In 22-26/8/15 in JQ colours. Already refurbed. Expect out ~10-15/9

-- Likely next
VH-QPF 330-300 SIN repaint 13/7-29/7
VH-EBE 330-200 with JQ - last flight appears to be 25/9/15

-- 330-200 unrefurb configs remaining
3 - Intl with SkyBed I, RC AVOD - EBG, EBI, EBL
4 - Dom with J workbench, Panasonic AVOD - EBO, EBP, EBQ, EBR
2 - Dom with 2x2x2 J, Panasonic AVOD - EBM, EBN
2 - Dom with 2x2x2 38 seats, QStreaming iPads- EBC, EBD
11 - Subtotal
-1 EBI back to lessor
+3 Still with JQ / being refurbed, no AVOD - EBE, EBF, EBK
13 Total

 

[jpboyce]

I may have missed it earlier in the thread, I have a flight later this year which appears to be on an A330-200. Is there an easy way to check if this flight is using one of the refurbished planes? Thanks.

 

[moa999]

Given we are also now 25 days into August (and have had 5 -200s and -300s operating for most of this period) I thought I would update the best flights for the new product.
Notably EBS/EBV have both operated internationally (on 9 return pairs over this period including QF81/82 SYD-SIN and QF41/42 SYD-CGK)

Of 25 days (Red is >50%)
No route is exclusive. Non-refurbs have operated QF61/62 BNE-NRT since launch.

Domestic - Westbound
17 QF485 MEL-PER
17 QF589 BNE-PER
16 QF597 BNE-PER
14 QF481 MEL-PER
14 QF575 SYD-PER
12 QF767 BNE-PER
11 QF583 SYD-PER
8 QF577 SYD-PER
5 QF653 MEL-PER
5 QF769 MEL-PER
4 QF475 MEL-PER
5 QF569 SYD-PER
3 QF571 SYD-PER
3 QF581 SYD-PER
2 QF565 SYD-PER
2 QF777 MEL-PER

Domestic - Eastbound
18 QF648 PER-MEL *Redeye
17 QF802 PER-MEL
16 QF568 PER-SYD *Redeye
16 QF598 PER-BNE
16 QF650 PER-BNE
14 QF652 PER-BNE *Redeye
13 QF580 PER-SYD
8 QF768 PER-MEL
5 QF476 PER-MEL
5 QF574 PER-SYD
5 QF642 PER-SYD
3 QF576 PER-SYD
3 QF582 PER-SYD
2 QF566 PER-SYD
2 QF776 PER-MEL
1 QF762 PER-MEL
1 QF772 PER-MEL

Domestic - Triangle (only services with 5+)
6 QF408 MEL-SYD
6 QF421 SYD-MEL

International - Northbound
21 QF61 BNE-NRT
17 QF35 MEL-SIN
17 QF81 SYD-SIN
16 QF51 BNE-SIN
14 QF97 BNE-HKG
13 QF29 MEL-HKG
10 QF129 SYD-PVG
7 QF23 SYD-BKK
5 QF41 SYD-CGK
3 QF19 SYD-MNL
3 QF5 SYD-SIN

International - Southbound
21 QF62 NRT-BNE
18 QF82 SIN-SYD
16 QF36 SIN-MEL
15 QF30 HKG-MEL
14 QF52 SIN-BNE
13 QF98 HKG-BNE
10 QF130 PVG-SYD
8 QF24 BKK-SYD
5 QF42 CGK-SYD
3 QF19 MNL-SYD
2 QF6 SIN-SYD

(Sourced from theqantassource.com Jet Tracker, dumped into Excel, Quick pivot table, then manually summarised)

 

[moa999]

I may have missed it earlier in the thread, I have a flight later this year which appears to be on an A330-200. Is there an easy way to check if this flight is using one of the refurbished planes? Thanks.

BY looking at the seatmap.
But always subject to last minute change

 

[jpboyce]

Hi moa,

I looked at the seat map and it looks like it's the old recliner style seating. I guess I'll just have to keep an eye on it and hope things change. Thanks.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Hi moa,

I looked at the seat map and it looks like it's the old recliner style seating. I guess I'll just have to keep an eye on it and hope things change. Thanks.

Even if it does change - don't get too excited! Friend of mine made that mistake last week... was showing old seats at time of booking. A week out went to the new suites (mcu anticipation and excitement), then two days before departure it went back to the old seats.

 

[ozbeachbabe]

Notably EBS/EBV have both operated internationally (on 9 return pairs over this period including QF81/82 SYD-SIN and QF41/42 SYD-CGK)

Which would explain why a lot of BNE/PER/BNE flights in the last week or so have reverted to non-refurbed birds.

For a while it was rare not see a refurbed bird operate QF589, QF597 & QF767 westbound or QF650, QF598 or QF652 (red eye) so EBA, EBB, EBJ, EBS & EBV being regular a/c operating those flights but alas the honeymoon is over.....for now.

 

[Nizar]

Given we are also now 25 days into August (and have had 5 -200s and -300s operating for most of this period) I thought I would update the best flights for the new product.
Notably EBS/EBV have both operated internationally (on 9 return pairs over this period including QF81/82 SYD-SIN and QF41/42 SYD-CGK)

Of 25 days (Red is >50%)
No route is exclusive. Non-refurbs have operated QF61/62 BNE-NRT since launch.

Domestic - Westbound
17 QF485 MEL-PER
17 QF589 BNE-PER
16 QF597 BNE-PER
14 QF481 MEL-PER
14 QF575 SYD-PER
12 QF767 BNE-PER
11 QF583 SYD-PER
8 QF577 SYD-PER
5 QF653 MEL-PER
5 QF769 MEL-PER
4 QF475 MEL-PER
5 QF569 SYD-PER
3 QF571 SYD-PER
3 QF581 SYD-PER
2 QF565 SYD-PER
2 QF777 MEL-PER

Domestic - Eastbound
18 QF648 PER-MEL *Redeye
17 QF802 PER-MEL
16 QF568 PER-SYD *Redeye
16 QF598 PER-BNE
16 QF650 PER-BNE
14 QF652 PER-BNE *Redeye
13 QF580 PER-SYD
8 QF768 PER-MEL
5 QF476 PER-MEL
5 QF574 PER-SYD
5 QF642 PER-SYD
3 QF576 PER-SYD
3 QF582 PER-SYD
2 QF566 PER-SYD
2 QF776 PER-MEL
1 QF762 PER-MEL
1 QF772 PER-MEL

Domestic - Triangle (only services with 5+)
6 QF408 MEL-SYD
6 QF421 SYD-MEL

International - Northbound
21 QF61 BNE-NRT
17 QF35 MEL-SIN
17 QF81 SYD-SIN
16 QF51 BNE-SIN
14 QF97 BNE-HKG
13 QF29 MEL-HKG
10 QF129 SYD-PVG
7 QF23 SYD-BKK
5 QF41 SYD-CGK
3 QF19 SYD-MNL
3 QF5 SYD-SIN

International - Southbound
21 QF62 NRT-BNE
18 QF82 SIN-SYD
16 QF36 SIN-MEL
15 QF30 HKG-MEL
14 QF52 SIN-BNE
13 QF98 HKG-BNE
10 QF130 PVG-SYD
8 QF24 BKK-SYD
5 QF42 CGK-SYD
3 QF19 MNL-SYD
2 QF6 SIN-SYD

(Sourced from theqantassource.com Jet Tracker, dumped into Excel, Quick pivot table, then manually summarised)

Thanks for putting that together.
If you take out weekends, do the red eyes from PER to MEL/SYD have 100% hit rate for a refurbed aircraft ?
I recall seeing somewhere recently (QF website maybe ?) that red eye services from PER to SYD/MEL were all scheduled to run the refurbed J on all weeknights.

 

[moa999]

Thanks for putting that together.
If you take out weekends, do the red eyes from PER to MEL/SYD have 100% hit rate for a refurbed aircraft ?
I recall seeing somewhere recently (QF website maybe ?) that red eye services from PER to SYD/MEL were all scheduled to run the refurbed J on all weeknights.

Aug1 was a Sat so 17 weekdays Aug1-25. Would need to go through the data to check but suspect not the case.

On a quick check of QF568, not the case with a number of weekday flights being non-refurb.
I also note that a 737 does operate this route on some weekends - so the raw percentage is higher than /25
-- will use route tracker rather than jet tracker next time

 

[Nizar]

Aug1 was a Sat so 17 weekdays Aug1-25. Would need to go through the data to check but suspect not the case

I prefer not to throw darts but rather bet on sure things.
Do you suspect flying on a weeknight out of PER on the redeye would at least increase the percentages ? Or hard to say ?
What is the usual plan B if you don't get a refurb or suffer a last minute equipment sub ? Skybeds mk.1 is far from a disaster but if you got recliners that would be quite poor for the redeye IMO.

 

[moa999]

From the data - they are generally the best chance, but not a sure thing.

You won't absolutely confirm the aircraft until your at the airport, and I suspect most will still take the recliner versus taxi back to a last minute hotel and another coughshoot in the morning