AMEX Membership Rewards Not Tracking Correctly?

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Thanks to this thread, I've checked my points - they credited correctly Mar 2014, but the last time they credited correctly was June 2013! Each month has had a different amount credited, from 0 to less than the amount owed, to hundreds of points over! No logic to it, but seem to be short about 250 points. Appears to be a problem with my local IGA, which doesn't have IGA in its name on my statements, but it credited correctly in Mar '14 and June '13. Name has not changed.

Will have to contact Amex.
 
Imagine if a bank's computer let it keep a few bucks of everyone who didn't notice they weren't getting the agreed interest rate???

I mean, in the age of handheld calculators with more oomph than the computer behind the luna landing, I can't believe all the stories over the years about Amex's 'manual' backroom corrections.

Who police's the accounts of everyone who doesn't notice these boo boos?

After a while all those points add up so there must be a huge Lost & Found Office somewhere at Amex's HQ :cool:
 
I too just got my credit adjustment dated 4/4/2014. Wasn't a huge change as I was overseas for part of the period that it was messed up for, but nice to get some resolution none the less. :)
 
I'm shocked that points don't appear automatically. Who remembers they had these people 'in the backroom' manually checking points for 8-10 weeks like Scrooge McDuck with their abacuses. Don't they have computers?
 
Thanks to this thread, I've checked my points - they credited correctly Mar 2014, but the last time they credited correctly was June 2013! Each month has had a different amount credited, from 0 to less than the amount owed, to hundreds of points over!

Maybe they use the new maths that our kiddies are learning? Miscalculations like that are deplorable. Please remind me to not open an account with their Amex Centurion bank or Amex Expres Bank unless they upgrade to new ways of counting their fingers and toes. :cool:
 
Mine as well. Emailed the team and they corrected the wrong transactions. Have been told by the person on the email there is a glitch.

The 'glitch'? How many other people don't know, and may never know, that there points are lower because of glitches. The problem sounds systemic and needs fixing once and for all.
 
My guess is that a heap of FF related points get away with it a lot! I'm not sure I would have noticed had I not been active on this site...
 
FOS, ASIC and ACCC must be as weak as water to let this mis-adding continue.
 
Mine have been fine at least. But it does seem to have affected a few people on here. Wonder what the percentage and points value comes to?
 
Where do 'missing' ff points 'go'. Around the world these must be worth huge dollars over the years.
 
American express letter: 2 pages. Has anyone else ever recieved a letter like this?

I have made phone contact, including the number on the letter just today. Their office is now closed, ring back during normal business hours.
 

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I'm in my 2nd year as an amex cc holder. Amex are really annoying me to pieces right now!
 
Received it last month, totally forgot about it and all cards got blocked till I did it.

Had to email scanned copies to AMEX, took about 48-72 hours to rectify.
 
What happens if you dont own your own house? (Parents, family, partners name, renting. ..)

As other then passport, it says rates or power bill...
 
Exec Services were closed all this week: a recorded message says to call back in office hours but they're closed Mon-Wed this week 9 to 5.

My first reaction to the letter was 'is this a scam by con artists?'. I get worried when insecure Superfunds and local councils want too much info - eg for useless council elections - that cons could access.

Re Amex' ;etter, there was a raid on a place in Nunawading with a nest of fake ids as 'people' used rented homes 'everywhere' to generate fake ids and fake rates and water bills: the very things Amexs is asking us for. Psst, want a black card to pay off a cartel? :)

Yes, the crims are ahead of Amex.

The letter might be because they've been 'burnt' with some of their own employees signing up fake named crims too. In other instances, they paid points and holidays as bribes to people like Nestor Morales, unwittingly no doubt. Possibly they're cracking down as the US goes through them, like with the Dept of Justice Case.

On the issue of points not adding up, the Annual Report in 2012 said Amex 'found" $150,000,000 from a internal review, and FOS recently say they reported a systemic issue. I think Amex's lastest Annual Report is out soon and it'll say (like this one for 2012) that they guess how many points they owe and

....what happens when the budget blows out? Well who remembers the mass cullings and games with 10,000 bonii for 20 spends and "mybonus', 'earnpoints' and other messes where they 'changed terms' and cut people out and things for months with fake excuses??? (If anyone misse out, you have 5 months left to go to FOS or its over red rover for you.


Management uses statistical and actuarial models to estimate
ultimate redemption rates of points earned to date by current
cardmembers based on redemption trends of current enrollees,
card product type, enrollment tenure, card spend levels and
credit attributes. A weighted-average cost per point redeemed
during the previous twelve months, adjusted as appropriate for
recent changes in redemption costs, including mix of rewards
redeemed, is used to estimate redemption costs. Management
periodically evaluates its liability estimation process and
assumptions based on developments in redemption patterns,
cost per point redeemed, partner contract changes and other
factors.
The liability for the estimated cost of earned points expected to
be redeemed is impacted over time by enrollment levels, points
earned and redeemed, and the weighted-average cost per point,
which is influenced by redemption choices made by
cardmembers, reward offerings by partners and other
Membership Rewards program changes.
Changes in the URR and weighted-average cost per point have
the effect of either increasing or decreasing the liability through
the current period marketing, promotion, rewards and
cardmember services expense by an amount estimated to cover
the cost of all points previously earned but not yet redeemed by
current enrollees as of the end of the reporting period. As of
December 31, 2012, an increase in the estimated URR of current
enrollees of 100 basis points would increase the balance sheet
liability and corresponding expense for the cost of Membership
Rewards by approximately $270 million. Similarly, an increase in
the weighted-average cost (WAC) per point of 1 basis point
would increase the balance sheet liability and corresponding
expense for the cost of Membership Rewards by approximately
$80 million
 
The 'glitch'? How many other people don't know, and may never know, that there points are lower because of glitches. The problem sounds systemic and needs fixing once and for all.

Amex Exec Services aren't answering their phone this week. Perhaps they're at Dick Smiths to get the latest version of Windows Vista :)
 
The recorded message said they're closed (between 9and5!) several days running. Maybe we better call the switchboard and ask for the Missing Persons Unit, next door to Lost & Found where all the missing points are :)
 
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