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Question that has nothing to do with the 747F crash...
I was in the PER QF domestic lounge twice last week on different days and whilst looking at the activity on the tarmac I saw something that I'm pretty sure I'd never seen before...during pushbash, someone would walk next to the pushback tractor holding a wire plugged into a small opening on the side of the plane. This gave the impression that the ground staff were walking the 737-800 on a leash!

What is this about? I'm pretty sure I've never seen that before at any other airport.

I dont think I have seen a pushback without an engineer talking to the coughpit as he walks on the interphone, then waving the remove before flight covers after disconnection prior to taxi.

Looks like the A380 has two (one not connected)

[video=youtube;0H4d4Ujow6A]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0H4d4Ujow6A[/video]
 
I dont think I have seen a pushback without an engineer talking to the coughpit as he walks on the interphone, then waving the remove before flight covers after disconnection prior to taxi.

Looks like the A380 has two (one not connected)

[video=youtube;0H4d4Ujow6A]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0H4d4Ujow6A[/video]

Thanks Markis10. For some reason I had never noticed the wire...
 
What would the engineer be telling the coughpit during the pushback?

Generally things are pretty quiet as on the flight deck, we're busy starting engines etc.

They're required to be available to talk since they're moving the aircraft, and we are their connection to the ATC ground movement controller. We let them know when they can begin pushing us back and release/apply the park brake as necessary on their command, while they advise that engines are clear of obstructions/people etc to start, and if anything untoward (fire etc) occurs during start.
Additionally if ATC needed us to stop for whatever reason, we need to relay that straight to them since we can't stop the aircraft during a pushback on the flight deck without causing damage.
 
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How is load balance achieved? Are there sensors at various points in the aircraft suspension?

Basically they weigh everything on the ground, and then calculate where it should be loaded to achieve the correct balance. As far as I know, there has never been a successful on board system of weight measurement.
 
Question that has nothing to do with the 747F crash...
I was in the PER QF domestic lounge twice last week on different days and whilst looking at the activity on the tarmac I saw something that I'm pretty sure I'd never seen before...during pushbash, someone would walk next to the pushback tractor holding a wire plugged into a small opening on the side of the plane. This gave the impression that the ground staff were walking the 737-800 on a leash!

What is this about? I'm pretty sure I've never seen that before at any other airport.

Watch more closely...you see that on every push back. He's the ground engineer, and we talk to him to relay any instructions about the push, but also to monitor the engines during the start.
 
I'm guessing that someone might be looking at the "employment" section of their local paper after what happened last night at EWR....!

Apparently a SAS A330's wing clipped the tail of a regional United aircraft whilst turning onto a taxiway.

How could an aircraft possibly get so close to another while taxiing, even at night time? Something's gone wrong here somewhere!
 
I'm guessing that someone might be looking at the "employment" section of their local paper after what happened last night at EWR....!

Apparently a SAS A330's wing clipped the tail of a regional United aircraft whilst turning onto a taxiway.

How could an aircraft possibly get so close to another while taxiing, even at night time? Something's gone wrong here somewhere!

It's not the first time that's happened - just google for the Air France A380 incident at JFK!
 
I'm guessing that someone might be looking at the "employment" section of their local paper after what happened last night at EWR....!

Apparently a SAS A330's wing clipped the tail of a regional United aircraft whilst turning onto a taxiway.

How could an aircraft possibly get so close to another while taxiing, even at night time? Something's gone wrong here somewhere!

Can I suggest that you have no idea what taxiing an aircraft around is actually like.

Firstly in many aircraft you cannot see the wings at all from the coughpit, and even if you can, it's hard to judge something that is a hundred feet or so away. Let's face it, most people can't even park their cars without scraping their wheels.....

Aircraft lights are prominent when viewed in isolation, but place them on an airfield, covered in thousands of lights, and they can totally disappear. Obstructions, in particular aircraft that have not properly cleared the lanes are not necessarily obvious at all.

Worth noting too, that firing pilots who make mistakes is an extremely bad way of pushing the safety cause. Nobody will ever admit to a mistake, and in fact they'll actively hide them, if you have a culture that does not use errors as learning experiences.
 
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Can the wingtips on the a380 be seen from the tail camera?
No. Using the PFDs we can see out to the inboard engines. The SD gives a slightly wider display, making it to the outboards, but we don't normally use that on the ground.

The tail camera is there to help us keep the wheels on the tarmac, and so the display we get has their position superimposed on the aircraft image. There is another camera that sits behind the nose gear.
 
Hi jb,
I was out at Tullamarine this morning and because of the strong northerly winds, all aircraft were taking off on 34(?). I noticed that QF93 left the gate pretty much right on time (0920). It was taxiing behind about 9 other aircraft waiting to take off. It was about 50 mins by the time it left the gate until take off. My question is, how do you allow for this amount of fuel usage before take off? Are you informed by ATC about the delays when calculating fuel quantities? Thanks JB and keep up the GREAT work.
 
I was out at Tullamarine this morning and because of the strong northerly winds, all aircraft were taking off on 34(?). I noticed that QF93 left the gate pretty much right on time (0920). It was taxiing behind about 9 other aircraft waiting to take off. It was about 50 mins by the time it left the gate until take off. My question is, how do you allow for this amount of fuel usage before take off? Are you informed by ATC about the delays when calculating fuel quantities?

We normally allow a tonne of fuel for the taxi, and that covers up to around 20 minutes. Beyond that it will start to eat into the variable fuel load, if you haven't allowed extra for the delay. Generally the company flight plan won't, but we'll often adjust it based on what we see of the conditions (we don't just sleep during the cab ride). Some places (JFK) were particularly bad for ground delays, and there the company will increase the planned fuel loading based upon previous flights. I think I once burnt about 8 tonnes waiting on the ground there, but it was all allowed for anyway. But, I have seen aircraft that have been delayed so long that they've had to go back to the gate.

Whilst on fuel flight plans, the company provides me with a minimum fuel flight plan. So, basically they're giving me information that would allow the minimum legal fuel carriage. The plan will often include adjustments that we can consider which use faster or slower cruise speeds, but they're just there so that I know the minimum I'd need with those cruise numbers. But, there is no requirement whatsoever for me to actually carry that minimum load...that's simply the line below which I can't go. Often, minimum is perfectly acceptable (generally when it includes something that's actually forced additional carriage anyway), but equally often I'll increase it by 1 to 5 tonnes. I think the largest amount I've ever added was 15 tonnes.

It is possible to put too much fuel on too. Maximum landing weight is generally not an issue, but if you were forced by weather or works to use a shorter than normal runway, you'd certainly want to have considered this when ordering the fuel. Also, that tonne that we normally allow for taxi won't actually be consumed in some cases (departing LA from 24L for instance) in which a short taxi combines with a short runway, and max take off weight. Then you'll have to load based on burning less (perhaps 500 kgs) and keep a very close eye on the actual weight before you start the takeoff.

And back to your original question. The A380 suffers very badly with congestion delays when Melbourne is on one runway. The gaps between the arriving aircraft are fairly close (and there are a lot of arriving aircraft). Whilst the smaller jets are quite nimble on the ground and a departure can often be squeezed between the arrivals, it takes a bit of time to actually get a 380 onto the runway and away.
 
Thanks jb.

That is one very well explained answer (as always).

One more, while i have you....!!! Last month I was waiting for a flight to PER from MEL. I was sitting in the QF Lounge and couldnt believe my eyes when I saw an A380 (QF) land on Rwy 27. Never before has I seen this....and to be honest never thought that 27 could accodate this bird. Wasnt you was it ????
 
For extended taxi's or delays on the ground before take off, if you've planned say 5T of fuel burn on the ground but only burn 2T due to overestimation of delays or 7T due to underestimation of delays. How would this affect V1, V2, rotate if at all?
 
Thanks jb.

That is one very well explained answer (as always).

One more, while i have you....!!! Last month I was waiting for a flight to PER from MEL. I was sitting in the QF Lounge and couldnt believe my eyes when I saw an A380 (QF) land on Rwy 27. Never before has I seen this....and to be honest never thought that 27 could accodate this bird. Wasnt you was it ????

It can...and it can't.

09/27 MEL, or 07/25 SYD are both long enough in the right conditions. Basically you need some wind. The aircraft has a landing crosswind limit of 40 knots so normally you'd never even need to look at the shorter runways, but from about 30 knots, you could certainly consider the shorter runways. It becomes more interesting if it's wet, as the crosswind limit will reduce to 27 knots, whilst that 27 knots if all headwind will simultaneously make the shorter runway available.

And no, it wasn't me, though I have landed one on 25 SYD.
 
For extended taxi's or delays on the ground before take off, if you've planned say 5T of fuel burn on the ground but only burn 2T due to overestimation of delays or 7T due to underestimation of delays. How would this affect V1, V2, rotate if at all?

We would initially calculate the numbers based on the minimum burn (i.e. that standard one tonne). Any delays beyond that would make the aircraft lighter, so our numbers would be progressively more conservative. With a long delay, you may decide to redo the numbers, but the trigger would most likely be a change in the conditions, not an downwards weight adjustment.
 
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We would initially calculate the numbers based on the minimum burn (i.e. that standard one tonne). Any delays beyond that would make the aircraft lighter, so our numbers would be progressively more conservative. With a long delay, you may decided to redo the numbers, but the trigger would most likely be a change in the conditions, not an downwards weight adjustment.

Thanks JB.
 
It can...and it can't.

09/27 MEL, or 07/25 SYD are both long enough in the right conditions. Basically you need some wind. The aircraft has a landing crosswind limit of 40 knots so normally you'd never even need to look at the shorter runways, but from about 30 knots, you could certainly consider the shorter runways. It becomes more interesting if it's wet, as the crosswind limit will reduce to 27 knots, whilst that 27 knots if all headwind will simultaneously make the shorter runway available.

And no, it wasn't me, though I have landed one on 25 SYD.

Say if there's a 30 knots crosswind, and assuming all runways available, would you prefer to take the long runway with the crosswind or the short one with the headwind?
 
Say if there's a 30 knots crosswind, and assuming all runways available, would you prefer to take the long runway with the crosswind or the short one with the headwind?

It's not quite black and white, but up to about 30 knots, I'd generally take the crosswind. Mostly when it's that windy, it's also gusty, so the headwind is unlikely to be constant, and could well have a fair bit of shear.
 

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