ATO (tax office) payments by credit card

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Good news! My March quarter BAS arrived today.

Can't believe I'm happy about paying taxes. :oops:
Yes, burrco. I am as sick as you. My eyes lit up when envelope, with accountants logo on it, arrived yesterday.
Mrs Duffa's quarterly PAYG. But it's only two months since the last one!!??? How come?
 
You get an extra grace month on the Oct-Dec BAS because of Christmas. So Oct-Dec is due at the end of Feb instead of Jan and Jan-Mar is due at the end of April.
 
This quarter the ATO has chosen to send no quarterly PAYG to three of the family and the previous quarter it was two.
I have decided not to be too weird by complaining. Having money to invest for a year is pretty sweet.
 
You get an extra grace month on the Oct-Dec BAS because of Christmas. So Oct-Dec is due at the end of Feb instead of Jan and Jan-Mar is due at the end of April.
Thanks Stephen65. I figured you would know the answer. It's a bit tight this month - no sooner are the balances for Feb paid in full and the cards are maxxed out again.
 
It's often a busy time taxwise for the self-employed at this time of the year - BAS's at the end of Feb and April and your annual income tax and GST returns due sometime between about March and May.
 
So would you pay your BAS via the JETSTAR card($5K spend b4 31May) to get the 10K QFF points?

Can you please le me know what this Jetstar card 10,000 points was? I've got the Jetstar Platinum MasterCard and didn't see anything like this. Was it emailed to you or did you see it on the Jetstar site?
 
Can you please le me know what this Jetstar card 10,000 points was? I've got the Jetstar Platinum MasterCard and didn't see anything like this. Was it emailed to you or did you see it on the Jetstar site?
20k on approval and a further 10k if you spend $5000 by 31 may. AFAIK.
 
Cove. Is it ok to load up the credit card with cash and then pay the tax bill by credit card? Does the ATO view this as being some kind of sneaky means to gain financial advantage by paying by credit card? Ive delayed our annual tax bill so our initial payment plus our July BAS is going to be of nightmare proportions.
 
Cove. Is it ok to load up the credit card with cash and then pay the tax bill by credit card? Does the ATO view this as being some kind of sneaky means to gain financial advantage by paying by credit card? Ive delayed our annual tax bill so our initial payment plus our July BAS is going to be of nightmare proportions.

Of course. This is exactly what i do.

Sent from my GT-P7500 using AustFreqFly
 
Pushka all we do is park 100k a day in the credit card and then pay the funds out mostly the day the BPay arrives. We do business creditors thru this card as well.
If you have a 7 figure amount then you should have multiple cards or it will take 10 business days to complete. Do not ever rely on one card!
I have done a chunk in the last 2 days.
Your accountant/tax adviser can answer the deductibility issues.
At Westpac I can cash a cheque into my credit cards if the amount is really large....that way when I get back to my office five minutes later I just phone my ATO girlfriend a couple of times or more.
 
yyes, this what i do too. just waiting on one late invoice to arrive in the snail mail dated 30 march to do BAs andMarch PAYG. happy times!
 
Cove. Is it ok to load up the credit card with cash and then pay the tax bill by credit card? Does the ATO view this as being some kind of sneaky means to gain financial advantage by paying by credit card? Ive delayed our annual tax bill so our initial payment plus our July BAS is going to be of nightmare proportions.

Pre-loading the card, so you have a credit balance, will mean you are not "borrowing money" when you pay Cove's girlfiend - you are using your own funds. Depends on your personal situation, but if you are a normal wage/salary earner then it should mean the ATO card payment fee is deductible. The ATO credit card fee deductibility guidelines say the fee is deductible as: "you incurred it as a result of paying an income tax liability and you did not borrow money from your card provider to make the payment". As the card was in credit, and you paid the ATO using your own funds (and not the card issuer's), the card payment fee is deductible.

My accountant sent a generic client newsletter to all her clients last Thursday, which may interest (or amuse) some of you:
Good Morning

I have been reviewing the advantages and disadvantages of paying your tax by credit card. The ATO now allows you to pay your tax by credit card but charges .48% for Visa and 1.25% for Amex.


The charges are deductible if you are carrying on a business or if you are an employee and not borrowing to pay the tax. If you do not use the frequent flyer points then it is costly paying by credit card.


You can pay your annual tax/IAS and BAS by credit card but there is a limit of $50,000 per transaction.


Accordingly, you need to check the limit on your credit card and may need to pay funds into the credit card so the payment will not be rejected if it exceeds your credit limit.


If your tax is say $200,000, then you would need to pay the $50,000 over 4 days and ensure there is sufficient funds available on your credit card. Please contact us if you need assistance.


I will now look at the cost and what you receive in points based on an ANZ Visa card and a Platinum Amex.:


Visa
(based on half point for every dollar spent)

If your tax was $200,000 the credit card cost is $960 and after tax $514, you will receive 100,000 frequent flyer points.


An economy return flight to Paris is 128,000 points or an estimated cost of $4,700. Therefore, the saving is approximately $4,000 plus 28,000 more points required.


Amex
(based on one and half points for every dollar spent)

If your tax was $200,000 the credit card cost is $2,500 and after tax $1,338, you will receive 300,000 frequent flyer points.


A business class return flight to Paris is 280,000 points or the estimated cost is $9,500. Therefore, the saving is approximately $8,000.


The above is based on an ANZ Visa card and Platinum Amex, it will differ depending on your credit card frequent flyer program.

Tip


Accordingly, it is worthwhile paying by credit card if you use the frequent flyer points. A trick I have used is to ring and book the flight as you can never find an overseas flight online. The cost is approximately 5,000 points to have them book for you. If the first person you ring cannot find a flight wait 10 minutes and ring again. It works every time!


I have personally not paid my tax by credit card as I have enough frequent flyer points with paying my business expenses by credit card. But if you have a family the above plan is very attractive.

I am now wondering whether I should change accountants, given (1) she sent me this THREE YEARS :shock: after JS first posted here on the subject (many thanks JS, by the way); and (2) she is only getting 0.5 points on her visa spend.

Hopefully my tax returns are getting better treatment.


NC
 
just wait until her kids grow up and she doesn't have to take them with her. it will be different then. she'll turn into a FF cough like the rest of us! hehehehe
 
If your tax is say $200,000, then you would need to pay the $50,000 over 4 days and ensure there is sufficient funds available on your credit card. Please contact us if you need assistance.
I'd be happy for your accountant to flip some coin onto my credit card.

Actually I feel the days of the ATO c'card payments are numbered. Too much exposure and too many of us enjoying the benefits of paying taxes.
 
If that were to happen we could go to an airline and buy chunks of points directly from them rather than thru the banks.
In Australia there are 11 million members total in the two biggest schemes so it is a pretty solid way to keep it all running.
I still remember meeting a fellow about 20 years ago who was credit carding a $600,000 telephone bill and I thought how sweet that would be! I think that brief conversation turned me into a fiend and there has been no turning back.
Quite a number of us look forward to receiving and paying tax bills now.
 
I'd be happy for your accountant to flip some coin onto my credit card.

Actually I feel the days of the ATO c'card payments are numbered. Too much exposure and too many of us enjoying the benefits of paying taxes.

I don't think the ATO will stop accepting credit cards, rather the banks will stop crediting points to these types of transactions. (ala Amex's new changes)
 

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