Australian Cricket Season 2023-2024

[jase05]

Haven't we Radelaidians been sayin that for years! Must be next Aussies captain as well. Got them into this Match as well. Selectors did good in selecting him after his fracture and he rewarded them well.

Trav is from my local club and I’ve been friends with his old man for the best part of 30 years so it’s extra special to see him succeed. I’m not sure that the coaching I gave him in U10’s contributed to his career though

 

[Pushka]

Trav is from my local club and I’ve been friends with his old man for the best part of 30 years so it’s extra special to see him succeed. I’m not sure that the coaching I gave him in U10’s contributed to his career though

You must be in our cricketing era then. 1980’s?

 

[jase05]

You must be in our cricketing era then. 1980’s?

I’m not quite 50 yet. I officially retired from playing 4 seasons ago but still drag out the whites a couple of times per year when numbers are short in our lowest grade. I’m still involved with coaching and junior association committees though.

 

[Happy Dude]

I think it's good to reflect on the fact that India won more games than any other team in this tournament and Australia beat every other team. Worthy champs on that basis alone. A great tournament to watch but I'm ever so glad to reclaim my nights now.

Soooo.... Warner to retain his spot in the test team? I reckon yes, but undeservedly so and only to allow a farewell procession.

 

[Scarlett]

When Australia was getting into a winning position against, I think it was Pakistan, back on October 20 in their fourth game of the tournament, there was a comment from a slightly despondent Pakistani supporter. This was the game where Warner and Marsh put on 250 for the first wicket straight up.
The context of the time was that Australia had lost their first two games; had beaten a weak Sri Lankan side; and were being a little ridiculed because they were near the bottom of the table and not living up the expectations of an Australian cricket team.

The comment was something along the lines of: “I suppose Aussies will now go on and win nine straight and the tournament.” It was fanciful at the time due to the big losses to India and then Sth. Africa to open the tournament meaning Australia were seen maybe just making up the numbers. But I reckon that Pakistani fan knew that you never count out AUS in the big tournaments.

 

[Pushka]

I think it's good to reflect on the fact that India won more games than any other team in this tournament and Australia beat every other team. Worthy champs on that basis alone. A great tournament to watch but I'm ever so glad to reclaim my nights now.

Soooo.... Warner to retain his spot in the test team? I reckon yes, but undeservedly so and only to allow a farewell procession.

I think it's unfortunate and thought this from the get go, that they play so many preliminary matches not to have the final match as best of three.
Warner will be there. He seems to run the place.

 

[WilsonM]

Soooo.... Warner to retain his spot in the test team? I reckon yes, but undeservedly so and only to allow a farewell procession.

Slightly controversial, but IMO Warner's done enough with his cricket career to say when his time is up. He knows he's almost done as well, so it's not like he's refusing to back down, but also the man averages 44.4 as an opener (Cook averaged 45.4), playing a lot of cricket all over the world (not just on roads in Australia, although that does push his average up a lot). Also, who's really banging the door down? Harris averages mid 20s, Renshaw doesn't open in Shield, Pucovski doesn't even play. There hasn't been any pressure on Warner's spot and yet he's delivered enough over a 10 year stint. A home summer where he can bully the West Indies and Pakistan, maybe pushing his average above 45, seems like a very fitting send off. Don't forget that for a period between 2015-2018, him and Smith contributed the majority of Australia's test runs (Could be completely wrong, but I remember it as around 40% of team runs between the two of them).

 

[jase05]

Slightly controversial, but IMO Warner's done enough with his cricket career to say when his time is up. He knows he's almost done as well, so it's not like he's refusing to back down, but also the man averages 44.4 as an opener (Cook averaged 45.4), playing a lot of cricket all over the world (not just on roads in Australia, although that does push his average up a lot). Also, who's really banging the door down? Harris averages mid 20s, Renshaw doesn't open in Shield, Pucovski doesn't even play. There hasn't been any pressure on Warner's spot and yet he's delivered enough over a 10 year stint. A home summer where he can bully the West Indies and Pakistan, maybe pushing his average above 45, seems like a very fitting send off. Don't forget that for a period between 2015-2018, him and Smith contributed the majority of Australia's test runs (Could be completely wrong, but I remember it as around 40% of team runs between the two of them).

Yep. Warner is still easily the first picked test opener in Australian conditions and should hold his spot. No one is exactly banging down the doors although I suspect Trav may end up opening full time in the future

 

[OZDUCK]

Perhaps I am being parochial but surely Cameron Bancroft needs to be in consideration? He is averaging 63 as an opener so far this Shield season and 59 last season. I admit his test average is not spectacular at 26 over 10 Tests but others have had equally mediocre starts. With regard to the ball tampering scandal the other players involved have been forgiven and he was the young player under pressure from his older teammate to do the deed.

 

[jase05]

Perhaps I am being parochial but surely Cameron Bancroft needs to be in consideration?

Absolutely he does

and he was the young player under pressure from his older teammate to do the deed

There has been reports from some players that Bancroft was tampering with the ball in Shield games before that point in time but yes it’s time he was forgiven

 

[Happy Dude]

I can't add to the above discussion in terms of who, but it doesn't matter if there's no obvious replacement. The opposition this summer represents a good opportunity to introduce a new opener, rather than chucking them in the deep end OS somewhere.

 

[Scarlett]

Don’t forget that Khawaja is no spring chicken either and I wouldn’t be surprised to see him retire soon.

Marcus Harris and Bancroft should be next in line for a decent go. Burns and Renshaw flatter to deceive.

 

[Pushka]

Perhaps I am being parochial but surely Cameron Bancroft needs to be in consideration? He is averaging 63 as an opener so far this Shield season and 59 last season. I admit his test average is not spectacular at 26 over 10 Tests but others have had equally mediocre starts. With regard to the ball tampering scandal the other players involved have been forgiven and he was the young player under pressure from his older teammate to do the deed.

No. Not parochial. His figures deserve it. And I agree with the rest. Some people just get overlooked just because...

 

[jase05]

Don’t forget that Khawaja is no spring chicken either and I wouldn’t be surprised to see him retire soon.

Marcus Harris and Bancroft should be next in line for a decent go. Burns and Renshaw flatter to deceive.

How many chances does Harris need?
Has failed multiple times and simply isn’t up to it IMO.
We need to get away from bringing back past failures

 

[Scarlett]

How many chances does Harris need?
Has failed multiple times and simply isn’t up to it IMO.
We need to get away from bringing back past failures

Maybe as many as Hayden?

The thing is, there is no standout future Test opener running around in the shield this year, so you have to select from what’s available. Harris has a CA contract for 23/24 so he’s clearly on the radar. Moreso, if there is general agreement that Bancroft is likely, how do you discount Harris when they both offer a FC batting average of just below 40?

Personally I agree that Harris has been found wanting at Test level and shouldn’t be selected again, but when there is no other obvious candidate… sort of like when Shane Watson kept getting picked…

Now, whether Head, or even Labuschagne is selected as a Test opener, is another story. Again, IMHO, that’s not a good idea.

 

[CaptJCool]

Slightly controversial, but IMO Warner's done enough with his cricket career to say when his time is up. He knows he's almost done as well, so it's not like he's refusing to back down, but also the man averages 44.4 as an opener (Cook averaged 45.4), playing a lot of cricket all over the world (not just on roads in Australia, although that does push his average up a lot). Also, who's really banging the door down? Harris averages mid 20s, Renshaw doesn't open in Shield, Pucovski doesn't even play. There hasn't been any pressure on Warner's spot and yet he's delivered enough over a 10 year stint. A home summer where he can bully the West Indies and Pakistan, maybe pushing his average above 45, seems like a very fitting send off. Don't forget that for a period between 2015-2018, him and Smith contributed the majority of Australia's test runs (Could be completely wrong, but I remember it as around 40% of team runs between the two of them).

Bang on !

The team ageing out is now a reality. Had Carey played not Inglis everyone would have been over 29 yo

The financial rewards of playing on outweigh being dropped or for that matter hanging up the boots on the high 30s
(It’s a rare thing for Aussie players to be over 40 especially batters)

Dave Warner will go out on his own terms.
The good part is that he’ll probably knock a few Test runs along the way and he didn’t take a new contract

And it’s now only 3 Tests left and less than two months before the final curtain

 

[Scarlett]

I love this article:

Advance Australia, inevitably

They came into the final as underdogs but dispatched India's greatest ODI side ever - just like they always do

www.espncricinfo.com

Tend to find that most of Osman’s writing is pretty solid.

 

[Guvner]

Renshaw doesn't open in Shield, Pucovski doesn't even play. There hasn't been any pressure on Warner's spot and yet he's delivered enough over a 10 year stint. A home summer where he can bully the West Indies and Pakistan, maybe pushing his average above 45, seems like a very fitting send off. Don't forget that for a period between 2015-2018, him and Smith contributed the majority of Australia's test runs (Could be completely wrong, but I remember it as around 40% of team runs between the two of them).

Renshaw opened in the VIC v QLD Shield match just finished and Pucovski played as well.. mind you they made 16 between them in 4 innings.

 

[jase05]

Renshaw opened in the VIC v QLD Shield match just finished and Pucovski played as well.. mind you they made 16 between them in 4 innings.

And Pucovski batted at 3 in that game which is just weird.

 

[Cossie]

ICC announces World Cup final to be 'best of three' following India's loss, BCCI complaint

The ICC has unveiled a shock change in format for the World Cup final following Australia's upset victory over India, ruling the decider will…

www.theroar.com.au

Thinking that they are claiming a moral victory, following on from England.