Australian Reports of the Virus Spread

[bcworld]

More great leadership!

https://twitter.com/x/status/1409680282739896344

 

[Lynda2475]

I would be inclined not to fine the fully vaccinated. I would also suspect that many turned up not expecting the limit to be exceeded. However the host family should cop the maximum fine as clearly they would have known.

What about individual responsibility? If you are at a venue / home that is breaking the covid health directives, the onus is on the individual to leave the unsafe environment and report the breach. Sure biggest fine should be reserved for the host, but we shouldn't allow those compliant in the breach off the hook as well.

I've reported a number of businesses overtime for failing to have QR codes accessible including NTL when they took down their QRs.

 

[dajop]

Jon Faine (with usual spot on insights), probably summarises the feelings of many Victorians well at the moment in his opinion piece on The Age on the weekend (which is conflicted over the Sydney outbreak). Whilst I'm not in Victoria, I am Victorian, all my relatives are there ( and I did experience several lockdowns when there), and whilst I don't wish lockdowns on anyone, a small part of me takes some (comfort? relief? joy?) from the fact that COVID is no longer seen as something that just effects Melbourne/Vic within Australia ....

The good, the bad and Sydney’s COVID outbreak.

 

[Pushka]

And as predicted numerous time "NSW Health now says around 40 people attended the party, rather than 30 outlined in earlier advice."

The number of people who contracted COVID-19 at a West Hoxton birthday party has grown to 27, with seven more infections among their close contacts. Six party-goers who were fully vaccinated and one who was partially vaccinated have so far returned negative tests.

It was bloody obvious from the start, the hosts lied including about their interstate guests. Hope to see report of huge fines to all adult attendees.

And I’d like to see the vaccinated ones not fined

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I would be inclined not to fine the fully vaccinated. I would also suspect that many turned up not expecting the limit to be exceeded. However the host family should cop the maximum fine as clearly they would have known.

Snap.

 

[Lynda2475]

And I’d like to see the vaccinated ones not fined

Being vaccinated doesn't absolve you from obeying the health directives.

Its great they were vaccinated and they arent unwell, a good news story that should be exploited (whilst admitting its with Pfizer) but as health workers they should know better than your average joe the importance of the venue caps and physical distancing.

The attitude of these rules don't apply to me is why we have this current situation.

In future there will be exemptions for fully vaccinated people, and I agree with those, but right now that privilege doesn't exempt them from restrictions as they can still spread the virus.

 

[jase05]

And you are right more often than not

Sorry, my mail was incorrect today.
3 day lockdown
Anna very annoyed

 

[bcworld]

Qld: SEQ, Townsville, Magnetic Island, Palm Island lock down - 3 days.

 

[Must...Fly!]

Sorry, my mail was incorrect today.
3 day lockdown
Anna very annoyed

Shouldn't have infected the gold miner with COVID then

 

[justinbrett]

The 2nd case in Brisbane was a covid ward receptionist worker who wasn't vaccinated, could well be a whole new leak.

AP is furious she wasn't vaccinated.

 

[Lynda2475]

Further spread at the Crossways, SMH reports

"The Crossways Hotel at Strathfield South, we have had transmission confirmed on Wednesday, 23 June, the transmission confirmed was from 7:00pm to 10.30pm and the transmission occurred in someone outside their immediate social group that attended that hotel.

"That gives us greater cause for concern when other patrons are impacted ... subsequently one of the people who has tested positive also attended that venue on 26 June from 3:30-5:00pm."

 

[Lynda2475]

The 2nd case in Brisbane was a covid ward receptionist worker who wasn't vaccinated, could well be a whole new leak.

So likely 3 separate clusters in Qld - the flight attendant (from HQ), the miner (from another HQ) and now a hospital worker on a covid ward.

 

[Must...Fly!]

So likely 3 separate clusters in Qld - the flight attendant (from HQ), the miner (from another HQ) and now a hospital worker on a covid ward.

Presumably a state run hospital then.

Who does the Queensland government blame for this one? Presumably the feds getting all the blame for hotel quarantine. Again.

I believe we were talking about diversions in the vaccine roll out thread earlier today. QLD government are experts in this.

 

[bcworld]

Further spread at the Crossways, SMH reports

"The Crossways Hotel at Strathfield South, we have had transmission confirmed on Wednesday, 23 June, the transmission confirmed was from 7:00pm to 10.30pm and the transmission occurred in someone outside their immediate social group that attended that hotel.

"That gives us greater cause for concern when other patrons are impacted ... subsequently one of the people who has tested positive also attended that venue on 26 June from 3:30-5:00pm."

Gosh. Unfortunate that they initially published the wrong venue then.

 

[justinbrett]

Jon Faine (with usual spot on insights), probably summarises the feelings of many Victorians well at the moment in his opinion piece on The Age on the weekend (which is conflicted over the Sydney outbreak). Whilst I'm not in Victoria, I am Victorian, all my relatives are there ( and I did experience several lockdowns when there), and whilst I don't wish lockdowns on anyone, a small part of me takes some (comfort? relief? joy?) from the fact that COVID is no longer seen as something that just effects Melbourne/Vic within Australia ....

The good, the bad and Sydney’s COVID outbreak.

(and perhaps cynically I'd also suggest outbreaks in NSW and Qld, where the federal election will be decided, were very much necessary to see a change in direction on vaccination. Another outbreak in Vic? Who cares? ).

I think that's a despicable article, saying things like "It will do Sydney some good to be knocked off their high perch."

Nobody wanted Victoria to have the outbreak it did, there was a great deal of empathy for Victorians for what they went through. Criticisms of the government yes, but it was never directed to the people.

Leaving aside that a journalist is questioning the health advice from another state - something that QLD CHO refused to do yesterday because she said unless you are there, unless you have access to the vast amount of information and situational awareness, you cannot comment.

If you and others like you are finding pleasure for what the people of NSW are going through, then shame on you, Jon Faine and the other Victorians that you speculate share the view. Absolutely despicable.

 

[Lynda2475]

And as usual trying to further reduce arrivals, hilarious Miles is complaining about cases being found in HQ given that is the whole purpose of HQ.

Arrivals aren't the problem, its selfish workers who choose not to be vaccinated and don't use PPE properly and failure of procedures that are causing the leaks into the community. Maybe direct some of his rage at their own policies of putting healthy low risk aussies on same floor as higher risk overseas arrivals?

Queensland's Deputy Premier Steven Miles says Australia needs to reduce the number of people coming in from overseas.

"Right around the country right now there is a lot going on with this pandemic," he says.

"In Sydney, in Perth, in Darwin, multiple outbreaks now here in the south-east and for the first time in some time, potential exposure in regional Queensland. All of them can be traced back to international arrivals. In fact, every day we have new cases in hotel quarantine from people who have travelled from overseas."

 

[jase05]

Yvette taking a ethnic swipe at Indians.
Needs to be pulled into line

Queensland authorities frustrated with international arrivals​

“In relation to international travel, can I say that we know about half of the people who are coming in on international flights are not Australian residents or citizens ,” Yvette D’Ath says.
“We also know many people are being allowed to leave Australia to go overseas and to return. That is (happening) frequently and some of our recent clusters, including the family who had gone to India, had been allowed to go over to India from another jurisdiction in Australia and returned via Brisbane and we saw transmission happening there.”

 

[justinbrett]

And as usual trying to further reduce arrivals, hilarious Miles is complaining about cases being found in HQ given that is the whole purpose of HQ.

Arrivals aren't the problem, its selfish workers who choose not to be vaccinated and don't use PPE properly and failure of procedures that are causing the leaks into the community. Maybe direct some of his rage at their own policies of putting healthy low risk aussies on same floor as higher risk overseas arrivals?

Queensland's Deputy Premier Steven Miles says Australia needs to reduce the number of people coming in from overseas.

"Right around the country right now there is a lot going on with this pandemic," he says.

"In Sydney, in Perth, in Darwin, multiple outbreaks now here in the south-east and for the first time in some time, potential exposure in regional Queensland. All of them can be traced back to international arrivals. In fact, every day we have new cases in hotel quarantine from people who have travelled from overseas."

Also, Aircrew and Hospital workers will still be a risk regardless of what quarantine looks like

 

[Lynda2475]

we know about half of the people who are coming in on international flights are not Australian residents or citizens

ABC will likely fact check this, as NZ arrivals need to be excluded.

 

[Pushka]

Being vaccinated doesn't absolve you from obeying the health directives.

Its great they were vaccinated and they arent unwell, a good news story that should be exploited (whilst admitting its with Pfizer) but as health workers they should know better than your average joe the importance of the venue caps and physical distancing.

The attitude of these rules don't apply to me is why we have this current situation.

In future there will be exemptions for fully vaccinated people, and I agree with those, but right now that privilege doesn't exempt them from restrictions as they can still spread the virus.

I know. Throwaway line

“This is Australia” just got thrown down into the sewage. Or is that sewer. Or sewerage? I still don’t know. I don’t want/have never wanted to see any state or people being locked down and am delighted when outbreaks are over or never start while we are on the zero drive and go slow vax schedule.

 

[bcworld]

Yvette taking a ethnic swipe at Indians.
Needs to be pulled into line

You still see this in 'the comments section'. Stop the flights from India. People don't seem to have realised that Delta has gone worldwide. Or they would just never consider banning travellers from the UK. (aside that Hong Kong has just done that very thing...banned anyone who has been in the UK for the past 21 days).