Australian Reports of the Virus Spread

[Lynda2475]

Yes we need to aim for COVID zero, but we also need to do so without shuttering the tourism sector either.

I actually do not agree that we do need Covid zero, it was never the goal.

Its not realistic, even if 100% of the population was vaccinated there will be cases, that's ok.

 

[Cruiser Elite]

And is there is something is wrong with this . Our PM is in the 4% who has been vaccinated, traveled to the UK for a work conference he was not a part of, went off on an family tree discovery and met up with some Aussies who cannot get home. Makes perfect sense to me An Aussie saying it as he/ she sees it.

OMG I did get a giggle out of this

 

[milehighclub]

Another case in Perth tonight. 4 day lockdown from midnight.

 

[bcworld]

Yup...further detail here:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1409485931854254081

 

[justinbrett]

Another case in Perth tonight. 4 day lockdown from midnight.

Wow.

If Brisbane locks down tomorrow like many are suggesting, we’ll have 4 cities locked down at the same time.

 

[Matt_01]

Yes we need to aim for COVID zero.......

What utter nonsense

I actually do not agree that we do need Covid zero, it was never the goal.

Its not realistic, even if 100% of the population was vaccinated there will be cases, that's ok.

I suspect that this Covid is not going away any time soon. At some time in the future getting a flu and Covid jab will just be part of the annual routine and who knows if some bright spark in one the drug companies will come up with an all in one option.

 

[Batterytraveller]

who knows if some bright spark in one the drug companies will come up with an all in one option.

Funny you should mention that.

The hunt for a coronavirus super shot

A so-called multivalent vaccine might protect against all Covid-19 mutations and any future pathogen from the betacoronavirus family

www.ft.com

OK I guess that is paywalled but it’s a really interesting article on polyvalent, multi-pathogen vaccines.

 

[RooFlyer]

So the sign says that the PM only ordered enough vaccine to vaccinate 4% of the population, 18 months into the pandemic. And the headline asks "Where's the lie?".

I ask - who's the cough moron? I think at last count we have ordered enough vaccines to do Australia's population at least 5 times over.

Federal government criticism. Yawn. (but really for sheer dumbness).

And lets learn about 'Pedestrian TV'. Absolutely, like, cool, dude. Can't beat those spicy, spicy yarns. Does anyone over 12 who actually reads this [I tried a number of words here, but couldn't find any suitable - make it up yourself]? AKA yada yada yada AKA you know, 'stuff'. You know?

 

[justinbrett]

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So the sign says that the PM only ordered enough vaccine to vaccinate 4% of the population, 18 months into the pandemic. And the headline asks "Where's the lie?".

I ask - who's the cough moron? I think at last count we have ordered enough vaccines to do Australia's population at least 5 times over.

Federal government criticism. Yawn. (but really for sheer dumbness).

We should really make a spin off threat to talk about covid and keep this one just for politics

 

[openseat]

I actually do not agree that we do need Covid zero, it was never the goal.

Its not realistic, even if 100% of the population was vaccinated there will be cases, that's ok.

Even against the Delta variant the vaccines are all preventing death, with only an 8% hospitalisation rate for the AZ shot. Unvaccinated people of course face much steeper odds.

 

[antycbr]

In terms of second-order issues, I would like to bring to the attention a group of NSW kids who hired a private jet to fly to SA to skip the border checkpoint. Hopefully they throw the book at 'em!

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KangarooFlyer88

I believe they’ve been deported from South Australia and their Australian “Propiska” (internal passport) stamped never to be readmitted.

We really aren’t that far off having an internal passport.

 

[justinbrett]

I believe they’ve been deported from South Australia and their Australian “Propiska” (internal passport) stamped never to be readmitted.

We really aren’t that far off having an internal passport.

An internal passport would be an improvement over the literal "papers" we have to carry at the moment.

 

[N860CR]

So… anyone still think Australia is doing a good job?

 

[Must...Fly!]

So… anyone still think Australia is doing a good job?

Honestly yes (numbers don't lie), but the fascination and fixation on COVID zero at ANY cost is now doing far more damage than the disease

 

[kookaburra75]

So… anyone still think Australia is doing a good job?

Yes - it's the first time Australia and indeed the rest of the world has had to face something !Ike this. There's no playbook and anything our governments and we do is based on best information and intents. That will mean changing and adapting as we go along, there can never be a perfect plan up front. Our biggest challenge is the outbreak in 'expertism', and the running commentary from different sources.

 

[nutwood]

I would suggest that our biggest challenge is that while we are physically and culturally one country, we are not addressing this challenge as one country. If the time spent stressing about borders was focused on suppressing outbreaks it would be a lot easier to keep it under control and when the time comes, to gradually ease back and accept Covid into our happy influenza family, to be greeted as an old friend every autumn.

 

[N860CR]

I would suggest that our biggest challenge is that while we are physically and culturally one country, we are not addressing this challenge as one country. If the time spent stressing about borders was focused on suppressing outbreaks it would be a lot easier to keep it under control and when the time comes, to gradually ease back and accept Covid into our happy influenza family, to be greeted as an old friend every autumn.

And that is why I would say we’ve gone from “doing ok” to “poorly”.

Having just come into Brisbane from NSW, I counted no less than 20 police officers processing the approx 20 people on the flight. Clearly none had been trained in what to do and it was a total mess.

We’ve focused so much energy on “lockdowns” and “border closures” that we’ve lost track of what we’re actually trying to do here.

 

[N860CR]

There's no playbook and anything our governments and we do is based on best information and intents. That will mean changing and adapting as we go along, there can never be a perfect plan up front. Our biggest challenge is the outbreak in 'expertism', and the running commentary from different sources.

There may be no playbook, but we’re also not changing or adapting, even as we learn a lot more about the virus. If anything, we’ve regressed into more panicked behavior.

I would say the biggest challenge is the fact that every single state uses the line “we’re acting on health advise” (even NSW). When has a government ever blindly followed health advise? We appoint governments to take expert opinion from numerous sources and make a controlled assessment, not simply do what a medical representative tells them. Have we ever listened to the nurses union when they’ve pleaded for better patient ratios?

 

[Must...Fly!]

I just am sitting here and in disbelief that WA has AGAIN postponed category 2 and 3 elective surgeries.

There is absolutely no way known this is an acceptable outcome 15 months in to this pandemic, to have such blunt instruments of control for 3 cases of COVID in a city of almost 2 million.

There simply has to be a better balance.

 

[Pushka]

I just am sitting here and in disbelief that WA has AGAIN postponed category 2 and 3 elective surgeries.

There is absolutely no way known this is an acceptable outcome 15 months in to this pandemic, to have such blunt instruments of control for 3 cases of COVID in a city of almost 2 million.

There simply has to be a better balance.

It will only take one case in SA and we will be locked down too. Hey, just announced the footy is still coming here on Saturday though!