Australian Reports of the Virus Spread

[bcworld]

Conveniently forgetting that this has happened in other states:have, including:

Did I mention a direction of travel?

 

[Flying mermaid]

A massive tirade of words came out of my mouth that would have me banned from AFF for this life and the next

Probably the same that came out of my mouth when I heard they had halved the caps

 

[Flying mermaid]

Sky are reporting NSW was rolled by the other states, and as the federal government is what determines the caps, they had no choice.

Gladys says she has to respect the decision of national cabinet.

I'm disgusted. It's one thing to reduce your own cap but to reduce the cap of another state against their will? The one who was bringing in 50% of Australians?

Is this so they don't look bad in comparison?

That was what I thought - if NSW said they could still handle it, it makes them all look hysterical and stupid

 

[oznflfan]

I was feeling optimistic this morning that we might get some idea of when borders would open when both the QLD and ViC Premiers suggested that borders might open when everyone had been offered a vaccination.This is a reasonable suggestion.

Annastacia’s surprising vaccination target

Annastacia Palaszczuk says Australia’s international borders should reopen once everyone has been offered the vaccine, irrespective of actual vaccination rates.

www.news.com.au

But this decision to cut international arrivals by 50% is ludicrous, cruel and uneccessary.And forcing NSW to cut by the other Premiers is totally unacceptable.Our PM should have shown leadership and insisted that the other States did not have the right to dictate what NSW does.

Mark McGowan in WA said exactly the same thing as well a couple of months ago. Common sense approach.

 

[justinbrett]

So back to Brisbane - if people, who live outside of Brisbane/Moreton Bay LGAs, work or have been in Brisbane/Moreton Bay, do they have to lock down as well (like Sydney did)?

 

[Pushka]

That was what I thought - if NSW said they could still handle it, it makes them all look hysterical and stupid

SA asked for a reduction of 75 from approx 600. They ended up with a reduction of 300+. We currently only have around 15 positive cases and that includes the miners family of five. People are isolating but in their homes and people appear to be compliant. I just don't know why we aren't coping with that number.

 

[bcworld]

So back to Brisbane - if people, who live outside of Brisbane/Moreton Bay LGAs, work or have been in Brisbane/Moreton Bay, do they have to lock down as well (like Sydney did)?

I believe that question was asked to the CHO and she said yes. But it was unclear.

Their wording says "Anyone who was been in"....doesn't mention live or work.

 

[Lynda2475]

if NSW said they could still handle it, it makes them all look hysterical and stupid

It does.

No mention that one reason Qld, WA and Vic HQ is stretched is becuase they are putting low risk interstate travellers into HQ because of their domestic border policy.

It will be interesting to see how this pitiful new cap is distributed around the country. It really ought be done on basis of population, Scomo should not just allow them to halve current caps given the 3 states calling fir the reduction were all already on reduced caps.

The number of positives arriving from overseas hasnt been rapidly growing over the last week.

 

[Flying mermaid]

It does.

Not te mention one reason Qld, WA and Vic HQ is stretched is becuase they are putting low risk interstate travellers into HQ because of their domestic border policy.

It will be interesting to see how this pitiful new cap is distributed around the country. It really ought be done on basis of population, Scomo should not just allow them to halve current caps given the 3 states calling fir the reduction were all already on reduced caps.

The number of positives arriving from overseas hasnt been rapidly growing over the last week.

It’s just a straight 50% of everyone’s existing caps

 

[justinbrett]

Scomo should not just allow them to halve current caps given the 3 states calling fir the reduction were all already on reduced caps.

That's exactly what's happening.

Perth is only doing ~250/week

 

[Lynda2475]

It’s just a straight 50% of everyone’s existing caps

That makes it even more disgusting, given how few Vic and Qld were already taking relative to their population.

WA already supposedly temporarily halved theirs when there was HQ breach a couple of months ago, so crazy to give them another cut.

 

[jakeseven7]

Incorrect
SA has repeatedly spruiked the 80% target

I’d be happy if the target was 80% of over 50’s have been offered the vaccine.

I don’t know why anyone thinks we are going to get to 80% of the population.

 

[Pushka]

I’d be happy if the target was 80% of over 50’s have been offered the vaccine.

I don’t know why anyone thinks we are going to get to 80% of the population.

Yes, the definition must be about "offer", that is the only thing that is under their control. The consequences of the offer is completely out of their control although they've done a fine job in trashing the message. Now, it is a complex moving feast and that needs to be explained but they just have a knack of messing up the message. They need to get flyingmermaid as their spokesperson.

 

[Lynda2475]

All vulnerable people 1a (frome start) and 1b (from late March) have had access to vaccination for months.

For domestic borders, Nat Cab could have specified 13 weeks from today as a date from which states will not close borders. That gives a week for the tardy 1a and 1bs to get their first jab and 12 weeks to get their second. Any 1a or 1b not vaccinated by then is choosing to be at risk.

 

[Lynda2475]

For international borders to open widely all Aussies under 60 will need to have been offered an mrna vaccine. Once supply is adequate you set a deadline for opening up, 8 weeks from that date..

Children and teens will be a sticking point for many. USA, Canada and Israel are vaccinating 12+ becuase they started to see more cases in children once most adults were vaccinated as virus went looking for a new home.

 

[justinbrett]

as virus went looking for a new home.

You're not one of those "the virus is a single sentient being" people are you?

 

[dajop]

That's exactly what's happening.

Perth is only doing ~250/week

Perth already halved their cap earlier this year, so halved again. Why bother at all?

Just lock everyone up and forget about international travel. Oh except celebrities, politicians and sportspeople ...

 

[justinbrett]

Perth already halved their cap earlier this year, so halved again. Why bother at all?

Just lock everyone up and forget about international travel. Oh except celebrities, politicians and sportspeople ...

And how many airlines are going to continue offering pax service into Australia now?

 

[Seat0B]

The irony is, with the world going back to normal, very few people will want to come home now.

Only those who want to see their families who live here, like my son does. Who had a ticket to arrive here on 15 August, which will no doubt not happen now. Who I haven't seen since January 2020. Who has never met his new niece. Whose 87 year old grandmother is having surgery for serious melanoma next week. Whose work is insisting that he take his accumulated leave, so who is going today, for a 3 week holiday in Croatia, Germany and Slovakia - having also visited Ukarain, Georgia and Uzbekistan earlier this year. Whilst half our population is in lockdown, and I can't really go anywhere at the moment, and even when I can, it's always praying that there won't be a snap lockdown.

Yep it's so forking great to be an Australian stuck in Australia right now.

 

[Lynda2475]

You're not one of those "the virus is a single sentiment being" people are you?

Nope.

However if you dont factor in under 16s you can never get to a 80% of population target, becuase that woukd require 100% of adults to get jabbed.