Australian Reports of the Virus Spread

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All vulnerable people 1a (frome start) and 1b (from late March) have had access to vaccination for months.

For domestic borders, Nat Cab could have specified 13 weeks from today as a date from which states will not close borders. That gives a week for the tardy 1a and 1bs to get their first jab and 12 weeks to get their second. Any 1a or 1b not vaccinated by then is choosing to be at risk.
All vulnerable people have not had access to vaccination.
I personally know many, many disabled young people who have not been able to get a vaccine. It’s even worse in Disability residential care.
Any talk of living with Covid must include this cohort being protected. It’s not enough to just do the older Australians.
Not staying that you think that, my post is pointing out the poor implementation in the disabled community.
 
Maybe until Pfizer supplies plus Moderna are increased anyone over 60 should not be given Pfizer unless they have one of the contra indications listed by ATAGI.Probably with some examination of doctor's letters for exemption to make sure they are sticking to the recommendations.
That would increase the chance of younger Australians to be vaccinated.
 
All vulnerable people have not had access to vaccination.
I personally know many, many disabled young people who have not been able to get a vaccine. It’s even worse in Disability residential care.
Any talk of living with Covid must include this cohort being protected. It’s not enough to just do the older Australians.
Not staying that you think that, my post is pointing out the poor implementation in the disabled community.
Agree totally and I've read stories of people with multiple disabilities not getting access. This group also needs protection but when would you think that may happen? They likely will need Pfizer?
 
Agree totally and I've read stories of people with multiple disabilities not getting access. This group also needs protection but when would you think that may happen? They likely will need Pfizer?
Yes a lot are in the age group for Pfizer.
Should be able to have access at the big state hubs. I don’t know the specifics of the implementation or how those in residential care access it but they are in 1B so have been eligible for a long time now.
 
Yes a lot are in the age group for Pfizer.
Should be able to have access at the big state hubs. I don’t know the specifics of the implementation or how those in residential care access it but they are in 1B so have been eligible for a long time now.
In Canberra initially those in disability residential care were supposed to get vaccinated via visits, similar to aged care, but that seemed to vanish months ago and of late the advice seems to have been visit your GP or a state clinic. It’s actually quite easy to get appointments in Canberra for vaccinations, but some disability carers have been saying going out for vaccination is not always feasible.
 
All vulnerable people have not had access to vaccination.
I personally know many, many disabled young people who have not been able to get a vaccine. It’s even worse in Disability residential care.
Any talk of living with Covid must include this cohort being protected. It’s not enough to just do the older Australians.
Not staying that you think that, my post is pointing out the poor implementation in the disabled community.

Yes. My disabled brother has only last week had his second Pfizer dose at his facility. Not all facilities have been visited as yet.


Disabled people in share homes or living with parents are still waiting in many cases.
 
The calculation of the “been offered” date needs to account for the capacity of the vaccine delivery system, not just the quantity of vaccine available. Does each state have the capacity to deliver if there is unlimited vaccine available?
 
Qld: new case on the Sunshine Coast...doesn't seem like much cause for concern.
 
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Qld: new case on the Sunshine Coast...doesn't seem like much cause for concern.

Details from ABC

By Peter Marsh

Queensland records an extra case of locally acquired COVID-19

It's in addition to the three other locally acquired cases announced earlier today.
The man in his 50s has been in the community on the Sunshine Coast and public health alerts are being issued, but authorities say lockdown for the Sunshine Coast region will still ease at 6pm on Friday.
The man became symptomatic on Wednesday and was tested yesterday.
Queensland Health is investigating any link to existing cases and identifying the strain
 
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Qld: new case on the Sunshine Coast...doesn't seem like much cause for concern.

Cause for a bit of confusion though, what was the point of the lockdown? Just as many unknowns today as there were when they locked down.

Not saying the should or shouldn't have locked down in the first place or that they should or shouldn't have lifted the lockdown today, but it doesn't seem to make sense.
 
Cause for a bit of confusion though, what was the point of the lockdown? Just as many unknowns today as there were when they locked down.

Not saying the should or shouldn't have locked down in the first place or that they should or shouldn't have lifted the lockdown today, but it doesn't seem to make sense.
Maybe Qld contact tracing couldn't cope before, but can now cope
 
On the TV news tonight - that the PM negotiated today's deal with Premier Andrews last night. Wouldn't negotiate anything with QLD or WA Premiers - up to Andrews to get them across the line. Re NSW, basically as National Cabinet it was one in, all in. Deal making, like democracy, can get messy.
 
1b definition includes "Younger adults with an underlying medical condition, including those with a disability" so they have been eligible and thus been able to access the vaccine program since 3rd week of March.

I never said all had actually been vaccinated but as they are an approved cohort they are not prevented from being able to book a appointment at the state or commonwealth clinincs or a GP (although GPs not suitable as dont offer Pfizer yet).

Should be able to have access at the big state hubs. I don’t know the specifics of the implementation or how those in residential care access it but they are in 1B so have been eligible for a long time now

They do. I saw some younger disabled people in wheelchairs with their carers getting vaccinated at Olympic Park yesterday - there was even a priorty queue for them to enter. And whilst the wait list for people outside 1a and 1b at Olympic Park is now over 4 weeks, there is still a separate block of slots reserved each week for 1a, 1b and their carers/household members.

Unfortnately in some cases just like with some of the aged care workers, some have been waiting for vaccinations to come for them. This is absolutely no time to sit back, they or their carers need to proactively make a booking.

This is a solveable situation that again can be done in the time frame I suggested.
 
On the TV news tonight - that the PM negotiated today's deal with Premier Andrews last night. Wouldn't negotiate anything with QLD or WA Premiers - up to Andrews to get them across the line. Re NSW, basically as National Cabinet it was one in, all in. Deal making, like democracy, can get messy.

NSWexit anybody? ;)
 
Yes please this is overreach of the worst kind, no one in NSW voted for Andrews. No state premier should have this much influence on what other states can do - stick to managing your own states affairs.

I wonder what happens to Canberra? Would they join us or do we have another nations capital as an enclave?
 
Yes please this is overreach of the worst kind, no one in NSW voted for Andrews. No state premier should have this much influence on what other states can do - stick to managing your own states affairs.

Its a Cabinet decision. Understand Cabinet structure and working? I dunno, but unlikely that all participants in a Westminster style Cabinet ever all agree with any particular decision, but its the agreed structure. Premier Andrews had influence this time, but it was via the agency of the Prime Minister. Who knows, maybe the NSW Premier influenced previous decisions. Should Tasmania then go wha wha?!! Give and take. As I said, messy, but thats the democracy we have.
 
1b definition includes "Younger adults with an underlying medical condition, including those with a disability" so they have been eligible and thus been able to access the vaccine program since 3rd week of March.

I never said all had actually been vaccinated but as they are an approved cohort they are not prevented from being able to book a appointment at the state or commonwealth clinincs or a GP (although GPs not suitable as dont offer Pfizer yet).



They do. I saw some younger disabled people in wheelchairs with their carers getting vaccinated at Olympic Park yesterday - there was even a priorty queue for them to enter. And whilst the wait list for people outside 1a and 1b at Olympic Park is now over 4 weeks, there is still a separate block of slots reserved each week for 1a, 1b and their carers/household members.

Unfortnately in some cases just like with some of the aged care workers, some have been waiting for vaccinations to come for them. This is absolutely no time to sit back, they or their carers need to proactively make a booking.

This is a solveable situation that again can be done in the time frame I suggested.
With all due respect my son is in this cohort. I have first hand knowledge of the difficulties that disabled people and their carers have experienced and continue to experience in accessing the vaccine.
 
that all participants in a Westminster style Cabinet ever all agree with any particular decision

But the Prime Minister needed to push back, even if they agreed to reduce in Vic, Qld and WA they did not have to force it on NSW. A very sad day for Australians.
 
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