Terrible tragedy in hotel quarantine in Taiwan
Taiwan’s hotel quarantine safety is under review following the deaths of three guests who were told to stay in their rooms.
www.smh.com.au
If I'm ever in a quarantine situation and I hear a fire alarm going off, I'll evacuate immediately. I frankly don't care what the advice of management or emergency services are. An alarm is an alarm and should be treated as such. I can think of other incidents (e.g. Grenfell Towers) where residents advised not to evacuate with tragic consequences. If you cop a fine, so be it, no magistrate will uphold such a fine anyway. Things like stay-at-home and quarantine rules are just that, rules, they aren't absolutes that must always be followed there are always exceptions.
I agree with Hillbilly64 here.
I am in the 1b group but have not had the vaccine yet due the ineptitude of DHHS. The instructions to Drs and to patients is different so I have been in limbo for the last 3 months. Ie the instructions to Drs said I should go to hospital for my vaccination but the instructions to patients said NO. That being the case I haven’t had anything yet as no hospital would take me.
I was actually given the option of having AZ now, Pfizer when available or even wait for Moderna.
I finally gave up following the mishmash rules and my Dr has agreed that I can have a jab and it’s happening on Tuesday.
A lot of it really depends on when you got the jab and how aggressively you pursued it. I was fortunate as someone in their 30s in Phase 1b having gotten my first jab of AstraZeneca on April 3, a mere days before ATAGI changed the guidelines for who can get the jab. Had I waited much longer I would've likely been forced to get the Pfizer jab and wait for a vaccine which likely is not a good fit for my circumstances. And I'm not an ordinary person, I have degrees in Computer Science and know the ins and outs of how to navigate the information space to book a COVID jab in record time.
I would encourage those on the forum to think of aunt Edna in her 70s who whilst she qualifies for the jab, doesn't have access to all the information and resources we have. So far as I can tell the government has done nothing to reach out to us in the high priority group. You needed to know you were in that group and discover what steps you can take to get the jab. At the same time, the data we're seeing from vaccinations points out that still, a large number of high-priority people (phase 1a and phase 1b) haven't gotten the jab yet. Why the commonwealth isn't actively pursuing those most vulnerable (aside from those in nursing homes) is beyond me!
Combine this with the misinformation being put out by the Premiers of states such as Queensland regarding who can get what vaccine and is it any wonder that people are hesitant about getting vaccines? Why would a nurse in her 20s bother getting the AstraZeneca jab if the Chief Health Officer says
COVID is no big deal for them (despite the collateral damage they can cause to vulnerable patients)?
Suggestion of spread to aged care resident. The tweeter mentions that their father was fully vaccinated in April (assume Pfizer with that timeline). Also shares a room with his wife.
The other possibility is the vaccine is less efficacious on that patient. The figures we see in reports are averages. People such as yours truly who are immunocompromised, whilst fully vaccinated may still have a significant risk for catching and developing complications from COVID. In which case we have to wait a couple of weeks after getting fully vaccinated to get blood tests to tell us how effective those vaccines are and depending on the outcome, get booster shots until the immune response is deemed sufficient. For those curious here's a webinar UCSF Medical
had on this very topic. Even then, some patients won't have sufficient immunity and will need to rely on herd immunity from the community to be protected.
In any event, it should be pretty darn clear that anyone working in healthcare or anything adjacent to medical such as nursing homes needs to be vaccinated right now. Patients need to know that if they go to the hospital for routine treatment they won't end up on a ventilator because nurse Karen didn't get her COVID jab.
--KangarooFlyer88
www.abc.net.au
. They introduced the email thing about a month ago because staff were having to make decisions as to whether to accept Doctor’s letters without really having the training to do so and then copping a lot of pressure and sometimes abuse. So Doctors now have to email the details and the reasons, so the health team can assess it and then phone and make appointments. Their doctor should have known it, but things have changed so often it’s very hard to keep up.
