Australian Reports of the Virus Spread

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Get stuffed, that’s a massive overreach. Seriously.
Talking to the converted here. Like I said, SA Covid free for ages, go out to birthday dinner or pop into a winery for a tasting etc and win 2 weeks in a med hotel as the prize. I was surprised the media didn’t go into uproar. Likely it was so unexpected it didn’t register with them.
 
Get stuffed, that’s a massive overreach. Seriously.
I said to someone at work yesterday, it would be a fun conversation if someone called me and demanded I moved to a medi-hotel.

Not saying I'd outright refuse, but it would be a very long discussion before I agreed to be moved out of my home to a government controlled facility.
 
I said to someone at work yesterday, it would be a fun conversation if someone called me and demanded I moved to a medi-hotel.

Not saying I'd outright refuse, but it would be a very long discussion before I agreed to be moved out of my home to a government controlled facility.
And my argument would probably end something like -"So you want me to catch covid."
 
And my argument would probably end something like -"So you want me to catch covid."
The interesting thing if that I am in a large apartment tower in Melbourne. So we already know that the Department of Health has a very very low tolerance for keeping positives at home in apartment buildings or indeed putting the entire building in to quarantine without any warning.
 
And my argument would probably end something like -"So you want me to catch covid."
MrP's comment when I told him. Be an interesting court case if you became very ill and had permanent complications or.....
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The interesting thing if that I am in a large apartment tower in Melbourne. So we already know that the Department of Health has a very very low tolerance for keeping positives at home in apartment buildings or indeed putting the entire building in to quarantine without any warning.
I live in one in SA and we have had this discussion very recently. 😨

People on Adelaide now are getting outraged thinking it's those positive who are being shipped into med hotels. But they have already been shipped into Toms Court. They haven't twigged that it's negative people who simply dared go to a restaurant or winery who are being locked away.
 
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Talking to the converted here. Like I said, SA Covid free for ages, go out to birthday dinner or pop into a winery for a tasting etc and win 2 weeks in a med hotel as the prize. I was surprised the media didn’t go into uproar. Likely it was so unexpected it didn’t register with them.
I presume they are not adding to the insult by charging you for the privilege.
 
I presume they are not adding to the insult by charging you for the privilege.
If it was me, and it could be anyone - we dined there a few months ago - they could take me to court for payment. But I don't think so.

You can understand now why yesterday I commented that we were stuffed. We have the most intrusive government ever.
 
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You can understand now why yesterday I commented that we were stuffed. We have the most intrusive government ever.
This I most certainly agree with (at least since WW2 time), and the unfortunate thing (to me) is that it doesn't seem to be shifting toward the better either.
 
If it was me, and it could be anyone - we dined there a few months ago - they could take me to court for payment. But I don't think so.

You can understand now why yesterday I commented that we were stuffed. We have the most intrusive government ever.
Unfortunately SA has the track record

Closing border to residents
Lockdown before a case arises

But on the bright side, SA official seem to be super cautious/overly protective......yes a breach of civil liberties /minimum human rights but closing the border before a case arose, might have stopped some cases. Of course, they would have been mocked for doing it a second time.

Hopefully (but doubt) they have a system - whereby medi-hotels are segregated by time of exposure and/or venues if this expands.

The other benefit is that it tries to avoid the 100% strike rate through households.
 
Unfortunately SA has the track record

Closing border to residents
Lockdown before a case arises

But on the bright side, SA official seem to be super cautious/overly protective......yes a breach of civil liberties /minimum human rights but closing the border before a case arose, might have stopped some cases. Of course, they would have been mocked for doing it a second time.

Hopefully (but doubt) they have a system - whereby medi-hotels are segregated by time of exposure and/or venues if this expands.

Well yes but this outbreak was caused by a lapse in judgement from SA Health in the first place..

Patient zero was an elderly man from Brazil who was brought to SA on compassionate grounds as he was ill. He spent a few days in Sydney quarantine then was moved to RPA after a fall, where he spent the next 10 days. Pretty much everyone else has had to spend another period of self isolate and testing in SA when there are hotspots interstate, which there was in NSW at the time. And if bad enough, not even residents can return home. SA Health in their wisdom 😡 decided he didn't have to do that. Then he went out and about Adelaide. And here we are.
 
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NSW cases just keep going up every day... I hope NSW starts to see a sharp decline in the numbers coming thru

We did two days ago with the drop to 70-odd.
Then back up over 100 with record testing.

The slight positive is that the positive rate remains low (below 0.2% / 1 in 500)
 
We did two days ago with the drop to 70-odd.
Then back up over 100 with record testing.

The slight positive is that the positive rate remains low (below 0.2% / 1 in 500)


The main problem with regards to controlling the outbreak is that the key number is the number of people infectious in the community is trending up.

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However total numbers infected is important in terms of the resultant adverse health outcomes (feeling unwell, hospitalisation, ICU, ventilation, death as well as ongoing health issues).

14 people today are on ventilation.

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We did two days ago with the drop to 70-odd.
Then back up over 100 with record testing.

The slight positive is that the positive rate remains low (below 0.2% / 1 in 500)
Sorry to have to add a record number not confirmed as fully isolating.

Which is likely to mean higher numbers in the coming week.
 
Well yes but this outbreak was caused by a lapse in judgement from SA Health in the first place..

Patient zero was an elderly man from Brazil who was brought to SA on compassionate grounds as he was ill. He spent a few days in Sydney quarantine then was moved to RPA after a fall, where he spent the next 10 days. Pretty much everyone else has had to spend another period of self isolate and testing in SA when there are hotspots interstate, which there was in NSW at the time. And if bad enough, not even residents can return home. SA Health in their wisdom 😡 decided he didn't have to do that. Then he went out and about Adelaide. And here we are.
I thought he was from Argentina. Has there been any further development as to his status? I assume he must a resident or a citizen as otherwise wouldn't the SA Government be blaming Border Force for granting an exemption by now?
 
I think the modelling of the current Sydney outbreak is that its September at the current settings.

With the NSW Premier pointing to a "fact" that effectively "NSW authorities have stopped thousands from getting covid" and previous assurances to "re-open construction" in effectively a Delta-proof way, this might be as hardsh as Sydney gets.

If one assumes lockdown conditions in Sydney don't get harsher and even on modelling things go out to September (say end of October just to make is a worse case scenario), what do people think about that??? Its still a 4 month lockdown which is around the same amount of time that Melbourne went in lockdown last year.
 
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I thought he was from Argentina. Has there been any further development as to his status? I assume he must a resident or a citizen as otherwise wouldn't the SA Government be blaming Border Force for granting an exemption by now?
My best guess is that the person is possibly a 'last relative overseas' immigration status, so is possibly in the process of getting PR. In the scheme of the mishandling of a covid-possible case, possibly an irrelevant fact.
 
I hope that the PM made it a condition of the Feds funding 50% of the Olympics cost with QLD that the NSW border must be open by 2032.
I'd hope that the Feds aren't giving ANY money for Brisbane's Olympics. Total waste.
Based on the already known cases at the Greek Restaurant and what has occutred at Ms Frankies, this sounds like an excellent idea.
Why not put the entire state in to one? Problem solved.
 
I think the modelling of the current Sydney outbreak is that its September at the current settings.

With the NSW Premier pointing to a "fact" that effectively "NSW authorities have stopped thousands from getting covid" and previous assurances to "re-open construction" in effectively a Delta-proof way, this might be as hardsh as Sydney gets.

If one assumes lockdown conditions in Sydney don't get harsher and even on modelling things go out to September (say end of October just to make is a worse case scenario), what do people think about that??? Its still a 4 month lockdown which is around the same amount of time that Melbourne went in lockdown last year.

I am not sure if Gladys will reopen construction at end of July, with the rate of the numbers still going up right now.
 
I thought he was from Argentina. Has there been any further development as to his status? I assume he must a resident or a citizen as otherwise wouldn't the SA Government be blaming Border Force for granting an exemption by now?
I think it's up to the State to assess compassionate entry? Or maybe SA Health doesn't point fingers at the Feds. Let's say South America then 😀 checked and yes, Argentina. Never been to South America and it shows 😀. But if he was granted compassionate grounds (and he was) then likely he wasn't PR or citizen or he could simply have come back without permission needed.
 
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