Australian Reports of the Virus Spread

[MEL_Traveller]

You must know the only we we can have Covid zero is to stop all incoming.

If we were relying on NT as the only route home, then we would be bringing back only a fraction of the number of Aussies that we have.

Of course. But people were saying covid zero is impossible. As you say it is possible if you stopped arrivals.

If all the Aussie overseas had come home when they were advised to do so - early on, cap free, home quarantine - we would have reached zero after the first wave or so, and lived our lives relatively free waiting for the vaccine to be rolled out.

But there was a large cohort of those overseas who didn't want to come home... they had just started a new job, or were on a working holiday, or didn't think this was serious, had to give notice at their current job, or still had two or three months on their apartment lease. Then they got stranded. Now they trickle in and some of them are bringing covid.

If the borders were truly closed, save for compassionate cases, and other measures such as a Singapore hub were established for air freight, we could be relatively close to covid zero. (Even freighter ships could berth without crew coming anywhere near land or other people.)

 

[Must...Fly!]

we could be relatively close to covid zero.

Do you even read what you are writing?

How much more relatively close to COVID zero could we possibly be over the last 15 months as a nation?

Blow me down with a feather. The world and life is full of uncertainties. Oh except for the fact we know vaccines work and COVID is coming to this country no matter what we do.

 

[moa999]

Remember NZs mystery Case that was thought most likely from frozen food.

Or the right of foreign embassy officials. Or SMs London visit, or APs Tokyo visit.
Or the freight loads of medication, ventilators, Covid vaccines.

You can limit international travel but the virus was always going to get in.

And has multiple times.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Remember NZs mystery Case that was thought most likely from frozen food.

Debunked.

Someone just jumped to that conclusion as Melbourne was having an outbreak, and the worker worked for a company who also had Melbourne office with a link to covid 19.

The two problems with that theory were:

• that the Melbourne Facility had never shipped (or even had staff visit both offices) to the NZ Facility in the period prior.
• that the genomic sequencing did not match (ie they were two different strains)

So it was purely a coincidence.

PS> Though yes I agree with

You can limit international travel but the virus was always going to get in.

 

[Spongbob]

If you do not like the YT rules, post your material on some other platform?

 

[Seat0B]

And probably shafted into the door-knocking/compliance gig.

yep. Mr Seat0A is also ex-ADF and a current reservist, and we were just discussing this today. We both feel it is a misuse of the ADF, and would not be happy to be serving in this way.

 

[Seat0B]

If all the Aussie overseas had come home when they were advised to do so - early on, cap free, home quarantine - we would have reached zero after the first wave or so, and lived our lives relatively free waiting for the vaccine to be rolled out.

Your comment appears to assume that there is a fixed pool of Aussies that might need or want to come home. Not at all the case.

People (who are not tourists) have lives, jobs and families overseas and did not need to come home at that time. But 18 months later, maybe they do. They might have lost their job and thus their visa. They might have had a baby and want a different life to their carefree days. Their elderly relatives in Australia that were fine in March 2020 might now have cancer or other health issues, or might even have died of old age or COVID or something.

And the exact same applies in reverse for those trapped here with family overseas.

 

[drron]

My guess it would be Alan Jones who rants every night against lockdowns and although he agrees with vaccination thinks every body has a right to choose whether to vaccinate and which vaccine they should have.He does get tiresome but banning everyone on Sky.A bit OTT.

 

[hydrabyss]

My guess it would be Alan Jones who rants every night against lockdowns and although he agrees with vaccination thinks every body has a right to choose whether to vaccinate and which vaccine they should have.He does get tiresome but banning everyone on Sky.A bit OTT.

I am wondering if it is some of their content from last year.

 

[DC3]

yep. Mr Seat0A is also ex-ADF and a current reservist, and we were just discussing this today. We both feel it is a misuse of the ADF, and would not be happy to be serving in this way.

Hovering around near someone’s front door like a fish out of water, in a can’t-see-me-suit, complete with giggle hat. No thanks. Glad my days are long gone for that sort of thing.

 

[jakeseven7]

Sky news Australia has just been banned from YouTube for broadcasting inaccurate and misleading information and opinions around Covid-19 in Australia.

I’m sure some of the nut case after darks were a pivotal reason! I know not many people watch Sky in Australia and certainly not many people on here, but a timely reminder to be careful what you believe…

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Sky News Australia suspended from​

YouTube after breaching COVID-19 misinformation policy​

YouTube suspends Sky News Australia for breaching COVID-19 misinformation guidelines in deleted videos

The channel says it rejects that any of their broadcasters have "ever denied the existence of COVID-19 as was implied, and no such videos were ever published or removed".

www.abc.net.au

 

[burmans]

Sky news Australia has just been banned from YouTube for broadcasting inaccurate and misleading information and opinions around Covid-19 in Australia.

I’m sure some of the nut case after darks were a pivotal reason! I know not many people watch Sky in Australia and certainly not many people on here, but a timely reminder to be careful what you believe…

——

Sky News Australia suspended from​

YouTube after breaching COVID-19 misinformation policy​

YouTube suspends Sky News Australia for breaching COVID-19 misinformation guidelines in deleted videos

The channel says it rejects that any of their broadcasters have "ever denied the existence of COVID-19 as was implied, and no such videos were ever published or removed".

www.abc.net.au

Couldn’t have happened to a more deserving bunch of people!

 

[teammongo]

On the 12 July 21 - AJ and Craig Kelly were rabbiting on about..

Delta is not dangerous "is on par with the average flu (aj)"
Vaccines dont work
Vaccinated more likely to die than unvaccinated "by a factor of 7 to 8 (ck)"

If that's not misinformation, then I don't know what is.
TM

 

[drron]

Well that would do it.

 

[Saab34]

Come on Sydney. Let’s see some decreases this week!

With all the restrictions in place Now cycling I’d be a little amazed if we don’t see one dint at least.

 

[mviy]

Alan Jones has said he has had his first AZ dose so far. He has pre-existing health conditions including seven blood clots on his lung that he has had for some time and is taking medication for. Doctors advised him to take AZ and he has had his first and will have his second dose. I don't think someone with those health conditions would have the vaccine if he didn't believe it worked.

According to Sky News the videos that YouTube found violated their rules included 'debates around whether masks were effective and whether lockdowns were justified when considering their adverse health outcomes'.

YouTube BANS Sky News Australia over videos that question lockdowns

According to the channel, the videos that provoked the censorship included 'debates around whether masks were effective and whether lockdowns were justified'.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Sky News is also saying that many of the offending videos are from last year. Last year the health advice was different and Fauci advised people shouldn't wear masks at one point in 2020.

YouTube’s Sky News Australia suspension ‘disturbing’ assault on freedom of thought

The freedom to engage in debate and challenge conventional thinking and wisdoms were not always accepted as human rights.

www.skynews.com.au

If you look at a channel like Sky News you'll see a huge number of videos. Going back and looking at old videos and purging them if the medical advice has changed would be a very time consuming task.

 

[Ric]

But there was a large cohort of those overseas who didn't want to come home... they had just started a new job, or were on a working holiday, or didn't think this was serious, had to give notice at their current job, or still had two or three months on their apartment lease. Then they got stranded. Now they trickle in and some of them are bringing covid.
(my bolding)

Seriously?? You have any idea?? Just close shop and drop everything? And lose all? Some situations cannot be closed or just drop everything even in a few months and legally cannot be done!

 

[Simo]

CM Headline could be a 14 day lockdown for us in QLD....

 

[Saab34]

CM Headline could be a 14 day lockdown for us in QLD...

The Murdoch fear this morning is a little off the charts. ‘Worse than Sydney’. FFS give it a few days.

 

[Pushka]

Of course. But people were saying covid zero is impossible. As you say it is possible if you stopped arrivals.

We need to talk about zero Covid. It has been in Australia since January last year and never left.