Well, if we significantly soften lockdown measures not even remove all of them, there will be much more then 22K deaths per 7 weeks.
This is because of miserable state of healthcare system we got.
If all ICU beds will be filled (and they will be) with covid patients, and large number of staff knocked out ill from their duties, far more ppl will die - a direct impact on the ability to do major surgery, to look after someone after a car accident, or with sepsis, or a heart attack, or a stroke, or a diabetic emergency, or a complicated seizure, or who have taken an overdose, or who bleed seriously whilst they are having a baby.
ICU capability isn’t limited by what’s wrong with you. It’s not even usually limited by the number of beds or the number of ventilator. ICU capacity is mostly limited by the number of nursing staff available to care for you.
Its is ratio of ICU beds and doctors per million is ridiculous in Australia, not lockdown and closed borders, and that is the thing that should have been addressed right from March 2020.
I'm not quite sure why there is this constant obsession with implying that Australia's healthcare system is on-par with the Central African Republic. We have one of the highest funded public health systems in the world paid for by our massive taxes and levies. We have plenty of capacity to manage a hell of a lot more than we are now. Based on our current mortality rate of ~3 in ~10,000, we are not going to turn the corner and have bodies piling up in the streets. Based on worldwide data, a slight relaxation in our restrictions (ie: allow people to actually see others in their family) is unlikely to result in more than a few thousand cases a day. Adjust that again if we target the vaccinated.
no, because in an unvaccinated population, in NSW, about 10% of covid cases need to be admitted to hospital.
Totally false. There are currently approx ~350 people receiving treatment in hospital or being isolated.
You can't get more realistic when you came in terms with sobering facts about our healthcare system. THAT is what we need to accept as given unfortunately.
We need to forget about the misleading mantra "Australia has one of the most advanced health system in the world"...
It is simply not true. Nor its true for UK, US where ppl were left to die at home without any simple help as common occurrence.
This is what lies at the very bottom of any discussion on this forum - what ever moves our govts can resource to, right or wrong, vaccinate or not vaccinate - its all comes down to and limited by inadequate underfunded and unable healthcare.
Wrongly established from the scratch and outdated.
Backbone of which are just private GP's googling diagnosis right in front of you in their suburban boxes, and not centralized major state hospitals where diagnostic, pathology and any other examination, surgeries and rehub all happens quick and efficient under the same roof.
Again, incorrect. Love your Utopian model.
unfortunately they are, as risk is enormous expressed in ppls lives lost, not emotional trauma financial loss from restrictions.
Again, nobody is advocating removing
all restrictions at this stage. Each life has a value and the "emotional trauma/financial loss" is something government is tasked to assess when creating legislation.
Unfortunately even with high vaccination rates there still be thousands of lives lost based on real life examples. In US where jab campaign is far more successful now with D variant hospitals still on brink of collapse right now.
Mississippi's Hospital System Could Collapse Within 10 Days Under COVID's Strain
Oregon’s COVID-19 hospitalizations could soar to about 1,100, double previous high
As we've been hearing for months, however they seem to get by. I would hardly hold the USA up as a beacon of health success.
Based on what, sorry?
Australia is actually low in tests, just enough to get by- number 51 in the world.
Just sort this table by tests per million criteria:
COVID Live Update: 206,981,339 Cases and 4,358,573 Deaths from the Coronavirus - Worldometer
Overall data doesn't mean a lot given Australia has spent a good portion of the last 18 months "covid free-ish". NSW is currently testing approx 130,000 people per day and returning tiny positivity rates.
But I am still think even a few years of pain still worth if we can in any way minimize number of families lost loved ones due to Chinese virus At the end of the day this is the only thing really matters.
It's certainly important, but it's not the only thing that matters. You lose a lot of credibility by dragging out the "Chinese Virus" line.
Look, I do get your point and I get that you are passionate. There is, however, a lot more to this than just people passing away. I agree our health system could do with some work, however locking the state down to make up for government failures is simply not a reasonable response. I guess there's only two weeks to go, and I would be very surprised if we didn't see things soften off at the end of August. The fact that we have people huddled around the TV/radio at 10:59 waiting for Gladys to swan out as though she's announcing the start of a war is quite telling. A huge amount of perspective has been lost. Really, what do case numbers mean? Virtually nothing, other than working people up about how much longer they'll be "locked down".
I'll definitely jump on board for a good government bash, but the correct bash is not "we need to lockdown because RPA is virtually the downtown Bangui medical centre!". The bash is "why has government failed to apply a clear, fact based and logical national plan".
