OK, I vote for (a little bit) later.If not now, then later.
OK, I vote for (a little bit) later.If not now, then later.
About 6 weeks ago the Tasmanian hospital system was in crisis with the 4 major hospitals all ramped.There were about 70 medical patients in or outside EDs waiting for a bed.there were none.
And that was without a single covid patient.Tasmania can't do what you suggest.
I would be extremely underwhelmed if the permitted activity were to be haircuts. I think they have to be pretty careful not to cheese people off by offering an incentive that is not really valued by anyone much. In my circles, people are getting pretty jack of complying, complying, complying only to find the goal posts keep moving.
First prize - unlimited travel around Australia. Oh wait...............WA also
Well, maybe everyone in NSW will get a free lotto ticket
Feel free @ayebee - it’s a pretty old fashioned word that I learnt from my grandfather in the 1960s. And it is very descriptive!we arrived in Japan from US in Feb 2020 just as covid was rearing its ugly head. There was another Princess (Diamond?) cruise ship in the news, and we were quite embarrassed we could not for any money buy a mask to wear when everyone else was.
BUT the main reason I am replying to your post is that I picked up a new word ... embuggerance ... which is so descriptive.
I plan to use when I get the opportunity (but not here on AFF). I hope you don't mind.
In regard to restrictions and potential loosening.
As soon as covid zero is not the goal (ie. now but more realistically at 70%) is there any good reason to not let tourists that are fully vacc in?
Physios and chiros are open now. I’ve seen both in the last 2 weeks.Its likely the NSW Government would be ridiculed if it was just hairdressers/barbers and nail salons.
I think whatever is suggested needs to consider the complexities to police enforcement. For example, household limits could be easily increased where everyone (except children) are fully vaccinated.
Outdoor exercise in groups of say up to 5 will create a lot of complexity - and potentially more will just mistakenly (or "intended confusion") choose to join in even though some might be half-vaccinated.
More than 1 shopping when fully vaccinated. Personal/health services like dentist, physio, chiro re-open,
The other examples are quite difficult to administer (do you need all customer-facing staff to be fully vaccinated to allow outdoor dining?)
Given the NSW CHO indicated the full effect of the 6m jabs might not be seen in case numbers until mid-September, I actually think the simple easings won't commence until 15 September at the earliest.
Further afield, I think vaccinated (may be one dose) HSC students will be allowed to attend required school classes (like practicals) in term 3 - then all HSC students (both vaccinated and unvaccinated) for the 4 weeks of exams in Term 4. Then after HSC finishes the rest of high school. Primary to recommence in Term 4.
This is where risk assessments will change the approach. We are not in Ruby Princess territory anymore, as the virus is circulating in considerable numbers. The risk becomes more about numbers allowed in based on impacts on Health resources etc, and quarantine becomes less restrictive given (unlike some other states) we do not force the thousands of infected locals into HQ,Right now, international flights arriving in Sydney should be restricted to NSW residents or those who have a suitable private residence here to quarantine in. NSW doesn’t need to burn resources running HQ, and the other states will mostly make them redo HQ anyway.
If we can trust 10-15K covid positive people to isolate at home I’m sure we can trust a few thousand travellers, only a small percentage likely have covid.
As soon as NSW hits 80% then open the international border. We shouldn’t have to wait for the slower states, and seeing us holiday in UK/USA etc might improve their vaccination rate.
*cough and ACT residentsRight now, international flights arriving in Sydney should be restricted to NSW residents or those who have a suitable private residence here to quarantine in. NSW doesn’t need to burn resources running HQ, and the other states will mostly make them redo HQ anyway.
If we can trust 10-15K covid positive people to isolate at home I’m sure we can trust a few thousand travellers, only a small percentage likely have covid.
As soon as NSW hits 80% then open the international border. We shouldn’t have to wait for the slower states, and seeing us holiday in UK/USA etc might improve their vaccination rate.
Is today the day the 'reward' for NSW will be announced? Have they confirmed that? (not the actual reward, just the day they will announce)
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100% agree @justinbrett for PM!Right now, international flights arriving in Sydney should be restricted to NSW residents or those who have a suitable private residence here to quarantine in. NSW doesn’t need to burn resources running HQ, and the other states will mostly make them redo HQ anyway.
If we can trust 10-15K covid positive people to isolate at home I’m sure we can trust a few thousand travellers, only a small percentage likely have covid.
As soon as NSW hits 80% then open the international border. We shouldn’t have to wait for the slower states, and seeing us holiday in UK/USA etc might improve their vaccination rate.
Glad to have added a bit of levity to this generally depressing thread.So rather than using covid all the time I can now say the embuggerance we now have.Love it.
Hmm sorry, no arrivals by boat, because…well I’m not clear exactly why not, but the PM doesn’t like it, including if you arrive from a war zone like AfghanistanWell you could go around Australia....on a boat.......you just cannot get off it anywhere
I was wondering why we weren't chartering unused cruise ships to serve as both transportation for stranded Aussies and quarantine served enroute providing no port stops. It would be cheaper and more reliable than the airlines. People would have to show vaccination and negative test before boarding to reduce risks. It would not be fun being cooped up in a cabin for 14 days but I would choose that option over a $10,000 airline ticket that may be cancelled last minute and 14 day HQ on arrival. Simple meals could be served that don't require replenishing of supplies. Tinned/frozen/etc.Hmm sorry, no arrivals by boat, because…well I’m not clear exactly why not, but the PM doesn’t like it, including if you arrive from a war zone like Afghanistan
Cruise ships are not going to be popular in public perception for bringing people home.I was wondering why we weren't chartering unused cruise ships to serve as both transportation for stranded Aussies and quarantine served enroute providing no port stops. It would be cheaper and more reliable than the airlines. People would have to show vaccination and negative test before boarding to reduce risks. It would not be fun being cooped up in a cabin for 14 days but I would choose that option over a $10,000 airline ticket that may be cancelled last minute and 14 day HQ on arrival. Simple meals could be served that don't require replenishing of supplies. Tinned/frozen/etc.
So 80 not good.
13 under investigation unlinked. 67 linked.
39 in isolation for all of their infectious period.
So 41 have been in the community for at least part of their infectious period. (The average for this yesterday was stated to be 3 days for cases up till yesterday)
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