Australian Reports of the Virus Spread

[drron]

The number of emotions flowing through my veins at the moment leaves me unable to write sensible comment. Maybe in the morning.

Unbelievable and as a few on here (including myself) have long suspected to be the case.

NoCookies | The Australian

www.theaustralian.com.au

The worst part of the story is that they are blaming covid.
No it is a lack off spending on health and the low priority given to health.

 

[jakeseven7]

Personally, I think premiers need to be looking ahead to how the reopening will play out. Won't they want tourists to feel comfortable to book holidays in Australia? If I were Gladys, I would be scrapping HQ except maybe for positive testing cases. Home quarantine with the phone app and facial recognition should be ample to maintain compliance and huge fines for non-compliance that people have to agree to before being allowed on the plane. Still 40,000 Aussies stranded overseas, many of whom are double vaxxed. Think of these people arriving back home at the airport, and the positive PR worldwide at least ONE premier has a heart. If I were a potential tourist, I know which state I would rather spend my $$ in. I would be scared to go to QLD with a premier who is known for heartless border closings and paranoia about even ONE case. Hell I live here and still can't get my head around this being a "thing".

The obsession with case numbers at this stage is ridiculous. The better message should be:

xx_ vaccines done.
xx_ tests were performed of which XX were negative and XX were positive.
Of those positive results, XX were asymptomatic and XX are in hospital (which is a very small percentage).
X fatalities occurred of which % were unvaccinated.

Just leave the word "case" off the announcement because that word freaks people out and learn how to present stats that sell the desired message!

To be fair NSW has started (slightly) down this path by restricting and holding back key inflammatory pieces of information from the public. But it’s going to be a little bit at a time procedure because it’s been so well ingrained….

 

[lovetravellingoz]

And then 32 minutes later:

OMG.

Maybe start or post in a different thread than this then? This thread is quite clearly labelled as being for :

Australian Reports of the Virus Spread​

 

[ketsuzei]

Maybe start or post in a different thread than this then? This thread is quite clearly labelled as being for :

Australian Reports of the Virus Spread​

Fair enough. I thought I'd wandered into the "breathless reports of leaks about upcoming reports of the virus spread" thread.

 

[ketsuzei]

So let me try my hand at the commentary.

A number in the 70s is worse than a number in the 60s and much worse than a number in the 30s.

But better than a number in the 90s, and not nearly as bad as a number in the 120s.

But Melbourne will be in lockdown regardless until vaccination rates are deemed sufficient.

Roll on tomorrow's number.

 

[Lynda2475]

There will be a double vacc'd death from covid, no doubt

It already happened in Sydney a few weeks ago, and was discussed on this thread. The gentleman was over 90 and in palliative care, there was no mass panic in the reporting as you predicted, refer below article.

Fully vaccinated man in his 90s dies of COVID as NSW records 345 new cases

Three more Sydney areas are hit with tighter lockdown restrictions as NSW records 345 new COVID cases and two more deaths.

www.abc.net.au

People understand that no vaccine is 100% effective, but as Dr McNulty stated in yesterdays presser, the Australian approved covid vaccines are working much better against covid than the fluvax does against flu each year.

 

[Pushka]

So let me try my hand at the commentary.

A number in the 70s is worse than a number in the 60s and much worse than a number in the 30s.

But better than a number in the 90s, and not nearly as bad as a number in the 120s.

But Melbourne will be in lockdown regardless until vaccination rates are deemed sufficient.

Roll on tomorrow's number.

I know that once the virus enters SA we will be in lockdown until December and vaccination rates are up. Unless we are just incredibly lucky.

 

[jb747]

Can we start a new thread called “Delusional fears of the virus spread“ and let this one get back to the topic?

We could, but what would be the fun in that?

So much of this fits in with a comment I made around a year ago, when we were first having lockdowns, in which some of the premiers (small p) were being called brave because they jumped on to the lockdown bandwagon. I thought that it was the opposite, with no bravery required to initiate lockdowns, but a lot required to undo them. I’m not seeing much bravery amongst the political class now (nor did I then). They have no way off this merry go round, and some prefer it, as it deflects from their failure to achieve anything.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Fair enough. I thought I'd wandered into the "breathless reports of leaks about upcoming reports of the virus spread" thread.

Mon-Friday Epstein will normally interview a VicDHHS person for his radio show who on most days will give a heads up on the day's figures. So there is no "mole" involved.

 

[Port Power]

Yes WA Health is a complete basket case which I and a few others have been posting about for months now… - and it’s the real reason WA has been deflecting the way that they have - look look over here at our tough big border to fight the virus / because they have their own massive bin fire they can’t put out.

They can’t vacciante, can’t contact trace, run sloppy HQ procedures second only to QLD’s messy protocols and couldn’t deal with 5 covid patients in their hospital system.

This is the real story and it’s all on the people who have been in power.

For once I’m happy Murdoch is fanning those flames and hope SevenWest get onboard too…

Disagree

 

[OATEK]

Sydney 1290 cases. 4 deaths.

 

[Must...Fly!]

Disagree

Fair enough.

Could you provide an explanation for why the WA Government, 18 months in to a pandemic and with no evidence of community spread, is severely short of hospital beds and delayed Category 2 & 3 elective surgeries for a month? Keep in mind these are by and large not just unnecessary surgeries but actually will leave people with significant pain and depressed quality of life.

Anything other than a one word answer would be preferable.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Vic Presser:

73 cases today. 52 linked. 21 under investigation from today
At least 24 in isolation for entire infectious period.

Pfizer bookings are now bookable in the GP Channel for over 16-39's in Victoria as of today with Pfizer (Note :The Feds administer and control this channel and so access is due to their change in rules as of today for this channel)

49 in hospital, 19 in ICU, 11 on ventilation

Cases today include those linked to:

• 9 Shepparton
• 5 MyCentre
• 5 Al Taqwa
• 3 Hobsons Bay
• 2 Glenroy
• 2 Sunshine
• 2 Chemist Warehouse - Hoppers Crossing
• 1 Royal Melbourne Hospital
• St Kilda East
• 20 linked to other existing cases

All Shepparton cases up till now are now linked.

 

[justinbrett]

NSW - should have made mention of lower testing rates and "smashing" or "moderately edging up" (depending on your overall point of view) past 1% positivity rate (1.15%) - yes low by global standards but still concerning in an undervaccinated population

And back well under 1% today - around 0.83%.

 

[Must...Fly!]

Mark McGowan said this morning "...the AMA should stop fear mongering. We have a world class health system in this state."

And is pointing the finger at the NDIS and Aged Care for not taking people out of hospital beds.

 

[antycbr]

Mark McGowan said this morning "...the AMA should stop fear mongering. We have a world class health system in this state."

And is pointing the finger at the NDIS and Aged Care for not taking people out of hospital beds.

The NDIS and Aged Care issues would be national. To be frank, the noise coming across the Nullabor is getting pretty tiresome for me.

I'm happy for WA to make their own way to opening up, provided they don't hold back other states from moving forward or expect financial assistance to stay closed, or ADF assistance to stay closed either.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

And back well under 1% today - around 0.83%.

Testing numbers jumped today. 0.83% (I got 0.82%) is still the second worst figure - so still concerning in an undervaccinated population. - Is four days a trend??? Worst four days in terms of positivity are the past 4 days. I think its pretty clear the positivity rate is climbing

Ventilator numbers improved but ICU still getting higher.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

The NDIS and Aged Care issues would be national. To be frank, the noise coming across the Nullabor is getting pretty tiresome for me.

I'm happy for WA to make their own way to opening up, provided they don't hold back other states from moving forward or expect financial assistance to stay closed, or ADF assistance to stay closed either.

Is there no exclusion for ADF to help vaccinate quickly in an outbreak???

 

[justinbrett]

Testing numbers jumped today. 0.83% (I got 0.82%) is still the second worst figure - so still concerning in an undervaccinated population. - Is four days a trend??? Worst four days in terms of positivity are the past 4 days. I think its pretty clear the positivity rate is climbing

Ventilator numbers improved but ICU still getting higher.

I'm not sure the positivity rate is all that meaningful in outbreak of this size, we know it's everywhere, the state is in a full lockdown.

They made a deliberate effort to tailor testing to make the most use of the capacity we have.

The cases will continue to rise, the testing numbers probably won't, so stands to reason the positivity rate will continue to climb, but it's a meaningless stat in this instance.

Cases are climbing at a faster rate than hospitalisation and ICU, and remember those stats have a few weeks delay. 80% single dose will be achieved next week and that significantly reduces the chances of hospitalisation and death, so they will start coming down, we just have to keep the vaccinations going up.

 

[MelMel]

Mark McGowan said this morning "...the AMA should stop fear mongering. We have a world class health system in this state."

And is pointing the finger at the NDIS and Aged Care for not taking people out of hospital beds.

Say what??