Australian Reports of the Virus Spread

[Lynda2475]

Not necessarily

Well the reason its nonsensical in so far as that Hunter (Regional) has higher infection rate per capita than almost all of Greater Sydney, and yet Hunter residents can go to any region.

 

[OATEK]

Well the reason its nonsensical in so far as that Hunter (Regional) has higher infection rate per capita than almost all of Greater Sydney, and yet Hunter residents can go to any region.

How many people in Greater Sydney vs how many in Hunter who might want to travel West. I think the answer lies in there somewhere if we can just tease it out.

 

[Quickstatus]

its nonsensical

Sure, there are a lot of decisions in this pandemic that does not make appear to make sense on a certain level.
But health is not the only consideration (and should never be) the in any such executive decision.

 

[Lynda2475]

Plenty in Hunter will want to travel to Greater Sydney (Central coast is part of Greater Sydney and just across the road) and vice versa. TBH they shouldnt be treating all regions a one giant block, very big difference between a remote aboriginal community in the far west and Newcastle or Port Macquarie.

 

[OATEK]

Plenty in Hunter will want to travel to Greater Sydney (Central coast is part of Greater Sydney and just across the road) and vice versa. TBH they shouldnt be treating all regions a one giant block, very big difference between a remote aboriginal community in the far west and Newcastle or Port Macquarie.

Try IMHO in place of TBH.

 

[drron]

Yes the Premier is going to announce a 3 day lockdown for Hobart at 1430AEDT.

 

[MARTINE]

Yes the Premier is going to announce a 3 day lockdown for Hobart at 1430AEDT.

Pourquoi?

 

[Lynda2475]

Just like Qld is likely off the travel menu, regional NSW which benefitted hugely last year when NSW was locked out of the rest of Aus will suffer because we can easily go overseas at the same time.

Not to mention the ridiculous situation now where there is nothing stopping Victorians who have a lower vaccination rate and much more rampant case spread from travelling into the regional NSW, yet a fully vaccinated Sydneysider cant go to Newcastle.

Madness.

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Pourquoi?

People who are supposed to be in HQ have taken to leaving without permission then found to be positive; and Tas dont trust their high vaccination rates

 

[MARTINE]

Thanks
ive stop to listening to Vic media so no idea about Hobart

 

[drron]

Pourquoi?

There has been 1 new case in Hobart today.First community transmission in Tasmania since May 2020.

Tasmania is not doing badly in the vaccination stakes but this should give it a nice kick along.Fortunately mobile vax clinics to start visiting smaller and remote areas from today.

 

[justinbrett]

Not to mention the ridiculous situation now where there is nothing stopping Victorians who have a lower vaccination rate and much more rampant case spread from travelling into the regional NSW, yet a fully vaccinated Sydneysider cant go to Newcastle.

I think it would have better to open up travel to specific regions once that region got to 70% DD, rather than focusing on where you were coming from.

It's madness that we Novacastrians are allowed to travel elsewhere in the regions, but I do defend why they want to stop people in Sydney travelling to Newcastle when the DD rate is still below 70%. Newcastle being a highly populated urban area is probably the biggest risk at the moment until vaccination rates catch up.

Also have to remember this is no fault of people in the regions, the vaccines were rightly prioritised for Sydney so there is a slight delay elsewhere. Lest we forget the Belmont vaccine scandal a few months ago. (Though there are some regions closer to the QLD border who have vaccine hesitancy issues)

 

[Lynda2475]

I think it would have better to open up travel to specific regions once that region got to 70% DD, rather than focusing on where you were coming from.

Which is basically what i said above "they shouldn't be treating all regions as one giant block", but where your from does matter in so much that excepting border zones interstate travellers shouldn't be allowed to travel to NSW regions before all of NSW can.

Except for ACT no other states vaccination rates are as high. And per capita Sydney case numbers lower than ACT right now.

And the movement would be fully vaccinated people not everyone.

 

[Pushka]

That's interesting. So that mucking about with a computer when you go to get a jab doesn't show what you've had previously? Only yesterday, I spoke to someone who was planning on adding a Moderna to their 2 AZs.

Hubs show the history. Chemists can't access it.

 

[blackcat20]

Just like Qld is likely off the travel menu, regional NSW which benefitted hugely last year when NSW was locked out of the rest of Aus will suffer because we can easily go overseas at the same time.

Not to mention the ridiculous situation now where there is nothing stopping Victorians who have a lower vaccination rate and much more rampant case spread from travelling into the regional NSW, yet a fully vaccinated Sydneysider cant go to Newcastle.

We’re still subject to a 15km travel limit, so no, we cannot travel to regional nsw.

 

[Lynda2475]

We’re still subject to a 15km travel limit, so no, we cannot travel to regional nsw.

That is a Victorian restriction, but there is nothing from a NSW pov stopping you.

 

[justinbrett]

That is a Victorian restriction, but there is nothing from a NSW pov stopping you.

Yes there is, they are not allowed to leave the NSW border zone, otherwise they have to comply with the NSW Health Orders which currently mean Victorians have to isolate for 14 days at home.

 

[jakeseven7]

Pourquoi?

1 case

Seriously can’t make this stuff up now.

 

[jb747]

Not to mention the ridiculous situation now where there is nothing stopping Victorians who have a lower vaccination rate and much more rampant case spread from travelling into the regional NSW, yet a fully vaccinated Sydneysider cant go to Newcastle.

Well in the sense that there aren't checkpoints you're correct, but only Victorians from the border zone are currently allowed in, and then only to the limit of the border bubble (which doesn't even get me to Wagga).

Yes there is, they are not allowed to leave the NSW border zone, otherwise they have to comply with the NSW Health Orders which currently mean Victorians have to isolate for 14 days at home.

Exactly.

And perhaps even more annoying or confusing, is the fact that the two state bubbles don't match up at all.

 

[Quickstatus]

Central coast is part of Greater Sydney

At one stage was excised from Greater Sydney and now back into Greater Sydney, C Coast, Wollongong and Shellharbour.

 

[Quickstatus]

Have to draw the line somewhere. Wherever that line is there will be people who won’t be happy - differential lockdowns politically unpalatable - LGA of concern in Greater Sydney an example.

aren't checkpoints

MissQS went from Wagga to Warrnambool for essential work with permit. No police seen anywhere along the route there, in Warrnambool, nor on way back

Constitutionally such blockades are unlawful but the judges thought the Constitution meant something else