Australian Reports of the Virus Spread

[Lynda2475]

So on a per capita basis worse than NSW

Noting that Victoria and ACT are also worse than NSW on a per capita basis.

 

[justinbrett]

They still seem ahead of Australia as a whole

How so?

We don't have a single city in lockdown.

We're opening up to the world on Monday.

Unless you're on team hermit kingdom, I can't see how you could argue that.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

For those unaware Melbourne Cup is only a public holiday in Greater Melbourne. Not the regions. They have their own regional holiday dates; some are tied to races like the Geelong Cup and some not. However most people in Victoria live in Greater Melbourne.

See Victorian non-metropolitan public holidays 2020

However many in Melbourne make Melbourne Cup in to a 4 or 5 day long weekend. Industries with RDO's will in the main have it scheduled on the Monday. Quite a number will schedule two RDO's, either the Friday or the Wednesday in addition to the Monday. Many I know in the construction sector have both the Monday and Weds off as RDO's.

Many without RDO's will take the Monday off, or longer.

Any holiday destination will be crowded, and to book accommodation there will be a Sat to Tues minimum. Often Fri to Tuesday. A big chunk pf Melbournians will not be in Melbourne for the 4 days, and the ones who remain will still commonly if they can take the Monday off to have a break.

The overall effect is that it is a 4 day long weekend in Greater Melbourne.

The very few times I have worked on a Cup Day Monday you would only have a token number of colleagues. It is only those workplaces in the service sector including food, entertainment etc who are busy over the 4 days.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

They still seem ahead of Australia as a whole

If you are referring to vaccination rates, they are about the same as a % of population according to our world in data

 

[Lynda2475]

The overall effect is that it is a 4 day long weekend in Greater Melbourne.

Nice try, some people take leave to make it a 4 day weekend. I manage several Melbourne based teams (not service industry) and very few people are taking Monday off this year, in fact far fewer than in previous years. Your post stated it was a 4 day long wekeend, but it is not by any stretch of the imagination.

 

[oz_mark]

Simple - safer (lower risk of vaccine related deaths), ability to vaccinate faster as much shorter interval between doses (3 weeks vs 12 week for AZ), higher efficacy and takes away the excuse of Im waiting for another option, plus recognized in more places for travel.

Exclusive use of Pfizer should have enabled NZ to outpace Australia in the roll-out especially given their considerably smaller and less physically remote population.

I thought you advocated that people should have a choice in which vaccine they get?

 

[Lynda2475]

I thought you advocated that people should have a choice in which vaccine they get?

I do. But if your only going to offer one vaccine then an MRNA is the better choice as less risk for most and quicker path to full vaccination.

You asked why it is considered a good thing and i posted the reasons the NZ PM gave when she announced the choice to go with a single vaccine (noting NZ previously approved AZ but then wisely decided not to use it).

 

[Lynda2475]

There is no way I would have the staying power you do.

I dont succumb to peer pressure, I assess the risks and make informed choices that are best for me.

 

[andye]

How so?

We don't have a single city in lockdown.

We're opening up to the world on Monday.

Unless you're on team hermit kingdom, I can't see how you could argue that.

I meant the whole of Nz's vaccination rate v the whole of Australia's (which are pretty close). I agree I would much rather be here and opening up. I am very much in the Christmas Alliance

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Nice try, some people take leave to make it a 4 day weekend. I manage several Melbourne based teams (not service industry) and very few people are taking Monday off this year, in fact far fewer than in previous years. Your post stated it was a 4 day long wekeend, but it is not by any stretch of the imagination.

What absolute twaddle.

The regions are all packed with holidaying Melbournians for the 4 days.


The Melbourne Cup Weekend has long been referred to as a long weekend, well at least by people that live here and treat it as such!

 

[Lynda2475]

What absolute twaddle.

Yes on your part it is NOT a 4 day long weekend. Monday is not a Public Holiday, no penalty rates apply on Monday, it is a normal work day , despite some people taking a regional break. Continuing to claim it is otherwise is just wrong.

Pre-Covid i would usually approve leave for the pre cup Monday for maybe 50% of my Melbourne based teams, this year only 4 (less than 10%) asked for the extra day off, as Victorians are mostly not welcome to travel interstate at the moment.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Yes on your part it is NOT a 4 day long weekend. Monday is not a Public Holiday, no penalty rates apply on Monday, it is a normal work day , despite some people taking a regional break. Continuing to claim it is otherwise is just wrong.

LOL

 

[mviy]

A lot of people take the Monday off to take an extended break with minimal leave usage.

As people can’t travel overseas a lot of employers forced employees to take extra leave off over Christmas and some will be saving leave for upcoming trips they have planned and not want to take the day off on Monday, but many will.

However you spin it significantly more people will take leave on Monday than pretty much any other Monday that is not a public holiday in the year outside of school holidays. Those of us living in MEL know this.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

A lot of people take the Monday off to take an extended break with minimal leave usage.

As people can’t travel overseas a lot of employers forced employees to take extra leave off over Christmas and some will be saving leave for upcoming trips they have planned and not want to take the day off on Monday, but many will.

However you spin it significantly more people will take leave on Monday than pretty much any other Monday that is not a public holiday in the year outside of school holidays. Those of us living in MEL know this.

Yes.

Plus if say Australia Day is on a Tuesday or Thursday, people will call it the the 4 day period the Australia Day Long Weekend and many will treat it as such. Or at least here in Vic we do.

 

[andye]

I am confused. I have been enjoying long weekends for decades. I didn't know the government needed to gazette them

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

I am confused. I have been enjoying long weekends for decades. I didn't know the government needed to gazette them

This year people are ‘working from home’ where there are work days between public holidays and weekends

 

[Lynda2475]

This year people are ‘working from home’ where there are work days between public holidays and weekends

Another reason why far fewer have requested leave this year.

 

[antycbr]

The Spanish call the workday before a public holiday a puente (bridge) day.

Always will be a light attendance day anywhere in Australia where this happens.

 

[Lynda2475]

Cases down by 32 on yesterday and hospitlisations down by 20 on yesterday , ICU up by 1 on yesterday. Another 12 historic cases have been excluded following further investigation.

Cases by LHD, 53% are in regional areas (which have lower vaccination rates):

• 73 are from Hunter New England Local Health District (LHD),
• 33 are from Murrumbidgee LHD,
• 24 are from South Western Sydney LHD,
• 23 are from Sydney LHD,
• 17 are from South Eastern Sydney LHD
• 15 are from Western Sydney LHD,
• 13 are from Mid North Coast LHD,
• 8 are from Illawarra Shoalhaven LHD,
• 7 are from Central Coast LHD,
• 5 are from Nepean Blue Mountains LHD,
• 5 are from Western NSW LHD,
• 1 is from Northern Sydney LHD,
• 1 is from Southern NSW LHD
• 1is from Northern NSW LHD,
• 2 are in correctional settings and
• 8 are yet to be assigned to an LHD.

 

[straitman]

I posted this on another thread yesterday and it applies here also.

"Maybe it's time to go back to the actual topic and stop with the sniping. In saying that a couple of people should go back and read what they have said previously as their logic is wandering and contradictory at times."

I am feeling tolerant today however my patience is wearing thin as it's the same offenders today as yesterday. This thread is about "Australian Reports of the Virus Spread" and not about whether Melbourne is or is not having a public holiday on Monday.

Moving forward warnings and/or infractions will be issued without warning.