Australian Reports of the Virus Spread

[Quickstatus]

any idea if the problem

Too granular for an AFF poster.....

 

[tgh]

My cardiologist, my surgeon, my emergency dentist. Tell me, what happens because they can't function due to real covid illness

The same as would happen if you lived in the back blocks of Afghanistan.

You will either survive..or you will not….

 

[jb747]

The WA Premier needs to talk to Hong Kong officials.You won't keep Omicron out forever.

Hong Kong says Omicron has breached its strict COVID-19 restrictions

Hong Kong's health officials said on Friday the Omicron variant of the coronavirus has made its way past some of the world's toughest COVID 19 restrictions, with the city reporting its first cases outside its strict quarantine system.

www.reuters.com

Presumably they're now going for the 42 day quarantine.

 

[N860CR]

I'm not sure why you are replying with "aysymtomatic" when my comment was specifically referring to a Surgeon with covid, asymptomatic or not.

I would hope that a general surgeon with a cold or flu would NOT have operated before but now, with covid, they would definitely not be operating withing a hospital.

I think we are in agreement that we have to find a way to have society function with covid endemic, but equally, can't ignore ( I hope)) that covid has particular stress effects on the health system that can't be ignored. It's not just those who have covid and are not sick, it's those who are genuinely I'll withit and also who we need to keep the wheels of society turning. My cardiologist, my surgeon, my emergency dentist. Tell me, what happens because they can't function due to real covid illness??

Because that’s exactly my point.

I believe policy has already changed that allows healthcare workers to return to work without isolating should they be asymptomatic. Again, virus didn’t cause that, policy did.

Should anyone actually be physically unwell then yes, obviously, they won’t and shouldn’t attend work. A huge proportion of those who are “positive” are not unwell and it’s only policy that would prevent them attending their place of work.

 

[Quickstatus]

My cardiologist, my surgeon, my emergency dentist

There are many more essential workers.
Your garbo for one.

The Achilles heel is not the Dr. It would be the Nurses.

 

[jb747]

There are many more essential workers.
Your garbo for one.

Look at it the other way around. Which jobs are not essential?

 

[Quickstatus]

Which jobs are not essential

The way the business of government is conducted these days - most politicians....

Even the plumber becomes essential when your hot water goes bust in the middle of the shower.

 

[Quickstatus]

Remember that January is the month of the year with historically the lowest hospital activity.

 

[SydneySwan]

Presumably they're now going for the 42 day quarantine.

Surely they will implement the Xian solution?

 

[oznflfan]

As someone in PER, please, please let it be Omicron and that the guard has passed it into the community...

Reading WA State Premier's Facebook page comments, you are truly on an island. Most over there really drank the Kool Aid, a lot asking for Lockdowns immediately to crush & kill the virus, begging for state borders shut forever. Left in 2009, and only when you leave to you see the parochial attitude over in WA. COVID has multiplied this exponentially.

 

[Scarlett]

Look at it the other way around. Which jobs are not essential?

All ‘influencers’.
Many in the media (especially those hyperventilating about case numbers).
Astrologers.
HR departments.
Alternative health practitioners (especially those pedalling homeopathy).
Italian soccer players.
The entire Reality TV industry.

Would you like me to go on?

Oh, and that guy who’s job it was to follow Mike Tyson around shouting affirmations for him: “yeah, you the champ”, that kind of stuff.

 

[oz_mark]

Reading WA State Premier's Facebook page comments, you are truly on an island. Most over there really drank the Kool Aid, a lot asking for Lockdowns immediately to crush & kill the virus, begging for state borders shut forever. Left in 2009, and only when you leave to you see the parochial attitude over in WA. COVID has multiplied this exponentially.

You're not wrong, and to some extent, he may be a victim of his own rhetoric.

And to give him his due, he has played the parochialism card to his great advantage.

Even so, I think Feb 5 will go ahead, with maybe some additional restrictions, then wind them back as the spread allows.

 

[RooFlyer]

Should anyone actually be physically unwell then yes, obviously, they won’t and shouldn’t attend work. A huge proportion of those who are “positive” are not unwell and it’s only policy that would prevent them attending their place of work.

We'll just have to disagree. Even before covid, as a matter of professional standards, I don't think any health care worker - but more particularly the high-level surgeons & specialits I was talking about - would attend work knowing they had a communicatable disease, asymptomatic or not. So not (government) policy, but professionalism. Again, the particular point I was making was that generally, but particularly in a place in Tasmania where we don't have great depth of medical specialists, it would only take a few covid cases amongst that group to have dramatic knock-on effects for hospital activities otherwise unrelated to covid. Elective surgery would be the first to go, notwithstanding that as we know, its usually not all that 'elective'.

There are many more essential workers.
Your garbo for one.

Yes, but I was only talking about health care workers.

The Achilles heel is not the Dr. It would be the Nurses.

In general I'd agree, but again, in the situation I was talking about - specialists, surgeons etc, - you could probably cover a second ward of nurses for urgent surgery, but if the only surgeon who can do that proceedure is taken out, then that's it. In Tasmania, having only one (or two) people who can do a particular procedure is a very real situation I believe.

 

[jakeseven7]

You're not wrong, and to some extent, he may be a victim of his own rhetoric.

And to give him his due, he has played the parochialism card to his great advantage.

Even so, I think Feb 5 will go ahead, with maybe some additional restrictions, then wind them back as the spread allows.

If Feb 5 is not going ahead there will be a massive blow up from industry against the government. Many companies are planning around that date including a big FIFO shift which let’s be honest pay all WA’s bills. We have a major logistical lift happening which relies on Feb 5 as well and our advice is that it is still happening….

The question will be just how many hoops people will have to jump through. I imagine it will be many. Thankfully they are not allowed to use pre-PCR outside of their own state anymore and if they want to do it in WA it will be at their own cost and we all know how good WA Health are at organising anything…

 

[RooFlyer]

To any infections…

Why are we complaining about Covid causing bed block now?. It’s been happening for many many years.

Any infections yes, but we are talking about covid here, so I didn't mention the others. Don't know about where you are, but people have been complaining about bed block in Tas for ... years and years and years ....

 

[drron]

We'll just have to disagree. Even before covid, as a matter of professional standards, I don't think any health care worker - but more particularly the high-level surgeons & specialits I was talking about - would attend work knowing they had a communicatable disease, asymptomatic or not. So not (government) policy, but professionalism. Again, the particular point I was making was that generally, but particularly in a place in Tasmania where we don't have great depth of medical specialists, it would only take a few covid cases amongst that group to have dramatic knock-on effects for hospital activities otherwise unrelated to covid. Elective surgery would be the first to go, notwithstanding that as we know, its usually not all that 'elective'.

No one tests asymptomatic people for the flu and there is no single test for the common cold. So eminent Tasmanian surgeons could well have gone to work with those conditions if they had no symptoms. Also Tasmania has not yet brought in mandatory covid testing for HCW.

However the old contact precaution rules have had a significant impact here in Launceston with the whole of the Neurology unit put into isolation apart from 2 junior registrars - one because they had been in Sydney.The unit celebrated Christmas with a dinner at a local restaurant along with a positive patient who had not been tested at that time. None of the unit have subsequently tested positive.

 

[Pushka]

So a good proportion of those in hospital in NSW weren't hospitalised for Covid but something else and Covid was found in preliminary testing during admission.

 

[kpc]

Jan 3rd. 21% of tests positive

 

[jakeseven7]

So a good proportion of those in hospital in NSW weren't hospitalised for Covid but something else and Covid was found in preliminary testing during admission.

Almost half… so perhaps it’s even milder than we think (also because of high vax rates etc) and potentially much more prevalent than the old 3x daily case method… maybe it’s more like 10x if people aren’t getting very ill. Which is actually a great thing!

 

[jase05]

Almost half… so perhaps it’s even milder than we think (also because of high vax rates etc) and potentially much more prevalent than the old 3x daily case method… maybe it’s more like 10x if people aren’t getting very ill. Which is actually a great thing!

Where was this reported.
Pretty good news