Australian Reports of the Virus Spread

[Pushka]

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Was talking about this on the weekend... I bet he and Josh are KICKING themselves that they extended it so far.... especially for the states that have deeply suppressed (Wa, SA, Tas, NT)

.... but I just have this inkling if Vic gets things back on track, and they are doing a tremendous job and aren’t that far away now - that he may have the scenario where the case numbers are low enough that businesses can reopen and he can actually withdraw / scale down Jobkeeper (not seeker) faster

It will depend on the industry. Our Vic clients (we are based as a company in SA) have already downsized their budgets based on little activity until July next year as that is their business cycle. So we wouldnt have seen blue sky until mid next year but by then we will have completely changed our business by then and downsized completely.

 

[SydneySwan]

ABC radio reporting that a Brisbane man drove down to Tweed Heads in NSW at the weekend to buy a fishing rod. He was denied re-entry to Queensland as he lives outside the bubble area. He tried at 2 different crossing points. He has now been fined $4k and told he must fly into Brisbane to return to Queensland.

A Queensland spokesman said people must learn that rules apply to them. They can't assume they will be exempt.

 

[blackcat20]

ABC radio reporting that a Brisbane man drove down to Tweed Heads in NSW at the weekend to buy a fishing rod. He was denied re-entry to Queensland as he lives outside the bubble area. He tried at 2 different crossing points. He has now been fined $4k and told he must fly into Brisbane to return to Queensland.

A Queensland spokesman said people must learn that rules apply to them. They can't assume they will be exempt.

So much stupid....

 

[get me outta here]

I thought it funny as he is such and idiot.

ABC radio reporting that a Brisbane man drove down to Tweed Heads in NSW at the weekend to buy a fishing rod. He was denied re-entry to Queensland as he lives outside the bubble area. He tried at 2 different crossing points. He has now been fined $4k and told he must fly into Brisbane to return to Queensland.

A Queensland spokesman said people must learn that rules apply to them. They can't assume they will be exempt.

 

[antycbr]

So much stupid....

Yep. After all, SEQ has Covid, and we can't have people from Brisbane just popping over the border while there is unchecked community transmission in the state.

Also shows to other Queenslanders that the border closures are impacting them, it's not all one way traffic.

 

[RAM]

That's my situation too - a long strip in eastern Tas" sea on one side, vegetated hills on the other, small town dotted along the way, connected by a single highway, 1.5 hrs end to end. Of course some post code areas are even larger

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Where can I buy that jigsaw?

 

[RAM]

On ABC this am one epidemiologist suggested the virus may already be mutating into weaker less severe strains. Let’s hope so!

But could help explain why it is sitting under the surface bubbling away everywhere without raising its head much, given the estimates of asymptomatic (no symptoms or symptoms so mild and brief you don’t even connect the dots) are ranging up to 40-50% of cases.

Some of the early studies (such as on cruise ships) had non-symptomatic cases around 4 in 5 (80%).

If you think back, in Australia through until late March or so - in many states if you had not returned from overseas & had symptoms - you could not get tested. In NSW you had to exhibit at least 2 symptoms at one stage and have returned within 14 days from overseas.

So data in Australia is very lacking to compare changes over time for relativity.

 

[NM]

ABC radio reporting that a Brisbane man drove down to Tweed Heads in NSW at the weekend to buy a fishing rod. He was denied re-entry to Queensland as he lives outside the bubble area. He tried at 2 different crossing points. He has now been fined $4k and told he must fly into Brisbane to return to Queensland.

A Queensland spokesman said people must learn that rules apply to them. They can't assume they will be exempt.

And when he does fly into BNE, we will need to self-fund 14 days of hotel quarantine (approx $2800), and then find a way to get his car and new fishing rod back home.

 

[jakeseven7]

And when he does fly into BNE, we will need to self-fund 14 days of hotel quarantine (approx $2800), and then find a way to get his car and new fishing rod back home.

Unless he can get Anna re-elected, in which case he will be ushered to a 'resort' quarantine by Dr Young, with special privileges, but rather than access to a pool and the bar like the 'quarantining' AFL personnel do - he can get access to a fish stocked lake instead

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

NSW 4 cases

Of the 4 new cases: - 1 in hotel quarantine - 3 are locally acquired

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

The new watch now.....

Some interesting Victoria stats in light of today's numbers
41 new infections in Victoria today means:

• The 7 day average is 76
• The 14 day average is 95.5 (this is the number that has to get below 50 if there's any chance of Melbourne easing restrictions on Sept 28 under the roadmap)

Edit: but this doesn’t reflect metro/regional breakdown.

 

[Seat0B]

It will depend on the industry. Our Vic clients (we are based as a company in SA) have already downsized their budgets based on little activity until July next year as that is their business cycle. So we wouldnt have seen blue sky until mid next year but by then we will have completely changed our business by then and downsized completely.

I'm in close to the same boat with my SA clients. All my work for 2020 was cancelled, initially out of caution in Feb/Mar, then out of necessity with lockdown in Mar/June, and then out of political shenanigans from July/now. Although there is a glimmer of hope for the end of the year if SA and ACT get a travel bubble going. QLD and VIC clients have follwed pretty much the same pattern of cancellation and then long long hiatus.

However, I find I am starting to enjoy the semi-retired lifestyle (which will be even better when I can travel again) and I might not find the energy to crank up again, given all the uncertainties and risks small businesses absorb. This could be seen as a plus - another boomer leaving the workforce creating an opportunity for the younger generations. However, if I do fully retire, I will become one less taxpayer in the system, and I have been a big taxpayer for many years. I will also be one less employer in the system, and although I have only been a small employer, it will still mean a few less people with jobs. Not sure how I feel about it all. Not how I thought I would be finishing up my working career either.

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A Queensland spokesman said people must learn that rules apply to them. They can't assume they will be exempt.

Well of course not, this was a fisherperson, not a footballer!

 

[Pushka]

However, I find I am starting to enjoy the semi-retired lifestyle (which will be even better when I can travel again) and I might not find the energy to crank up again, given all the uncertainties and risks small businesses absorb.

Exactly this! More in my case, my husband who has seen a glimpse of what this will look like. But we are so thankful for the business that this didn’t happen a few years ago with schools, teenagers, mortgages etc. But so many we know in our industry are suffering immensely.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

From ABC Covid live blog

Why are Victoria's restrictions stricter than NSW?

Can some helpful person at the ABC run the numbers for the other capital cities and let us know what stage of restrictions they would be in under the Melbourne roadmap?

-Nick

A lot of commenters in the blog have been pointing out that Victoria's lockdown roadmap is stricter than other jurisdictions — and if NSW was subject to Victoria's restrictions, it would be locked down right now.

CHO Brett Sutton responded to this on News Breakfast this morning.

"NSW is in a different situation," he said.

"They don't have the levels of community transmission that Victoria's got. They haven't had the kind of numbers that we've had to move through with these ongoing transmission chains that are really hard to get on top of.

"They're obviously tracing outbreaks and clusters and they're doing a great job in doing so...we do know that whenever there are grumbling cases that just continue along, there's always a risk of it taking off again, as we've seen in South Korea and Singapore.

"We want to get into a position that most of Australia got to which is driving cases down to a point where we know we can sustain those numbers for the long term, for months and months ahead of us."

It's also important to remember that Victoria's active case count is around 1,872. NSW's is 160.

 

[Seat0B]

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Exactly this! More in my case, my husband who has seen a glimpse of what this will look like. But we are so thankful for the business that this didn’t happen a few years ago with schools, teenagers, mortgages etc. But so many we know in our industry are suffering immensely.

I feel like we are on a parallel path at the moment @Pushka. You have written my story exactly, and I truly count my blessings that we are through that (very expensive) stage of life.

We feel very lucky that Mr Seat0A and I have both been able to get some well paid advisory work that we can do from our home office, so the wolf is kept from our door. But we do not need staff any more as the business is now only about our personal expertise.

We also don't really need to travel for work any more either as this work can literally be done from anywhere that has electricity and internet - which of course, and most ironically, would make it the perfect work to combine with a jetsetting lifestyle! I am resigned to never making the heights of P1 again, and likely taking a soft landing to LTG pretty soon, as despite all the StatusKeeper credits, the travel restrictions are making it all but impossible to get the 4 flight segments - which has never, ever, been an issue in the last 25 years of travel for me!

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

The new watch now.....

Some interesting Victoria stats in light of today's numbers
41 new infections in Victoria today means:

• The 7 day average is 76
• The 14 day average is 95.5 (this is the number that has to get below 50 if there's any chance of Melbourne easing restrictions on Sept 28 under the roadmap)

Edit: but this doesn’t reflect metro/regional breakdown.

The 14-day averages in metro and regional areas per Brett Sutton:

I know people are watching the 14-day average pretty closely now given that our metrics refer to that. For regional Victoria it's only just above five.

So I would expect in the two weeks from now, it will absolutely drop below five, all things being equal, and without outbreaks - significant outbreaks occurring.

For metro Melbourne, that average in the last 14 days has been close to 100, but we have to consider that it was close to 400 only a month ago. So that continues to trend down and, again, in the two weeks from now, we could expect it to be below 50 as a reflection of today's number.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

NSW 4 cases

Of the 4 new cases: - 1 in hotel quarantine - 3 are locally acquired

Four new infections in NSW
Health authorities in NSW have confirmed four new coronavirus infections in the 24 hours to 8.00pm yesterday.

One of the infections is a returned traveller in hotel quarantine.

The other three cases are all healthcare workers who were on shift at Sydney hospitals with a colleague who was infectious.

One of the cases announced today worked at Concord Hospital ED and the other two worked at Liverpool Hospital ED.

In addition to the numbers announced today, a new case has been reported in a visitor to a patient at Concord ED on September 1.

NSW Health says this case will be reported in tomorrow’s numbers.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

The new watch now.....

Some interesting Victoria stats in light of today's numbers
41 new infections in Victoria today means:

• The 7 day average is 76
• The 14 day average is 95.5 (this is the number that has to get below 50 if there's any chance of Melbourne easing restrictions on Sept 28 under the roadmap)

Edit: but this doesn’t reflect metro/regional breakdown.

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The current trends are to reach the targets early. Too early to predict on zero community spread though.

 

[RooFlyer]

The $7.5 million Tasmanian program to give people money to holiday at home opened at 9am this morning, and closed fully taken at 9:40am

Make yourself at home

Every region, every town, every road in Tasmania leads to discovery and surprise. Gather your friends and family — it's time to Make Yourself at Home.

www.buysomethingtasmanian.com.au

$100 towards a mid-week accommodation stay and $50 for an anytime 'experience'. Its retrospective payment, so you get your voucher, do the thing, pay for it, then get the $$ back by submitting the voucher number.

 

[p--and--t]

The $7 million Tasmanian program to give people money to holiday at home opened at 9am this morning, and closed fully taken at 9:45am

Make yourself at home

Every region, every town, every road in Tasmania leads to discovery and surprise. Gather your friends and family — it's time to Make Yourself at Home.

www.buysomethingtasmanian.com.au

$100 towards a mid-week accommodation stay and $50 for an anytime 'experience'. Its retrospective payment, so you get your voucher, do the thing, pay for it, then get the $$ back by submitting the voucher number.

How many did you claim? (or did you sleep in this morning )