Australian Reports of the Virus Spread

[lovetravellingoz]

Note that with the requirement of face coverings that it now states that faceshields own their own are not suitable. You need to wear a mask that covers the nose and mask.

When out and about I would certainly see a small but growing number of people wearing only faceshields including people that looked healthy and in their 30/40s.


Not surprisingly I also read recently that studies had shown that shields do not reduce the spread of exhaled virus. They are more to protect the wearers eyes from splatter. ie Good for a nurse, not much good for Jane Public.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

In addition to some more people (130K odd) returning to work at selected workplaces

Work: partial return to work for childcare, construction, manufacturing, wholesale trade, postal and distribution, dental services, allied health, elective surgery, outdoor sole traders (gardening, landscaping and garden maintenance businesses), pet grooming, real estate, and limited higher education and VET staff. ​

, the major changes (so not really major changes!) are:

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Well for myself personally the main change is that I can now put my bin out late at night without risking a fine Should I pop the champagne now or wait ?

 

[jakeseven7]

Well for myself personally the main change is that I can now put my bin out late at night without risking a fine Should I pop the champagne now or wait ?

Only if you put the champagne bottle in the recycling bin after 9pm to use your new found freedom to the max.

Great to see the unknown/mystery cases so very low as well.

 

[Pushka]

Well for myself personally the main change is that I can now put my bin out late at night without risking a fine Should I pop the champagne now or wait ?

So the curfew actually meant that was illegal? Oh my.

 

[dajop]

So the curfew actually meant that was illegal? Oh my.

Earlier on, one guy was caught "putting his bins out", and there was a big fuss in the media. Then read beyond the headlines, it seems that he "forgot" about the rules, and stood in the street texting after he put his bins out. It wasn't clear that he went out to put his bins out, or that was the excuse he gave for being on the street for a different reason. I am sure people would be unlikely to be caught if you took the 30 seconds to wheel the bin out and return immediately to your property without stopping to text someone ....

 

[lovetravellingoz]

So the curfew actually meant that was illegal? Oh my.

Well technically you were not meant to leave home apart for defined reasons.

 

[Pushka]

Earlier on, one guy was caught "putting his bins out", and there was a big fuss in the media. Then read beyond the headlines, it seems that he "forgot" about the rules, and stood in the street texting after he put his bins out. It wasn't clear that he went out to put his bins out, or that was the excuse he gave for being on the street for a different reason. I am sure people would be unlikely to be caught if you took the 30 seconds to wheel the bin out and return immediately to your property without stopping to text someone ....

But still, I cant even visualise that.
I really hope for all the melbournian's sake that you get to resume a much better life very very soon.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Earlier on, one guy was caught "putting his bins out", and there was a big fuss in the media. Then read beyond the headlines, it seems that he "forgot" about the rules, and stood in the street texting after he put his bins out. It wasn't clear that he went out to put his bins out, or that was the excuse he gave for being on the street for a different reason. I am sure people would be unlikely to be caught if you took the 30 seconds to wheel the bin out and return immediately to your property without stopping to text someone ....

From memory he also refused to give police his details when asked.

EDITED: Police said the officers attempted to do a routine check and spoke to Mr Hale about not wearing a face covering and left the premise after confirming Mr Hale’s identity and address, with no further action taken, 3AW reported.


For the rest of us I am sure common sense would apply. But most of us do not go out and linger or choose to not follow police instructions or requests.

If you are not at home, and the curfew was in force, then the police asking who you are and why you are there is a entirely reasonable action.


Note that CCTV of the incident shows him maskless, binless, but using his phone Also why such a warm jacket and beenie for a 30 second bin run? ie His appearance (which is what police act on) is of someone out and about.

 

[Pushka]

From memory he also refused to give police his details when asked.

EDITED: Police said the officers attempted to do a routine check and spoke to Mr Hale about not wearing a face covering and left the premise after confirming Mr Hale’s identity and address, with no further action taken, 3AW reported.


For the rest of us I am sure common sense would apply. But most of us do not go out and linger or choose to not follow police instructions or requests.

If you are not at home, and the curfew was in force, then the police asking who you are and why you are there is a entirely reasonable action.


Note that CCTV of the incident shows him maskless, binless, but using his phone Also why such a warm jacket and beenie for a 30 second bin run? ie His appearance (which is what police act on) is of someone out and about.


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Well, I just think for someone hanging in front of their front gate it all seems a bit much and a sad place to be.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Well, I just think for someone hanging in front of their front gate it all seems a bit much and a sad place to be.

How do the police know though unless they ask?

They only know if he is outside his dwelling in they ask. He could have just as easily been returning from an illegal gathering, been a thief etc ...

If he had of actually been pushing his wheelie bin he may never of been asked.





But yes sad at present, but no where near as sad as when we had 700 odd cases per day. No one likes restrictions, but they work, and that part most of us like and makes us less sad than we may have been. The good news is that the curfew goes after tonight

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

NSW mystery case watch

With the 1 case still unlinked it’s:

- 1 in the last 14 days
- 2 in the period 15-28 days
- 28 older than 28 days and since Crossroads emerged

NSW mystery case watch.

Still no change over the past 48 hours:

- 1 in the last 14 days
- 2 in the period 15-28 days
- 28 older than 28 days and since Crossroads emerged

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

Tomorrow Australia should be under 500 active cases. I’m guessing the pesky ship off WA had something with the number being about a handful above 500

 

[dajop]

Well, I just think for someone hanging in front of their front gate it all seems a bit much and a sad place to be.

Maybe I’m the odd one out, but I was thinking back, over my whole life, at all the different places I’ve lived - some apartments, some houses with big front yards, some houses with insignificant front yards - and I cannot recall a time where I’ve “hung out” in the street in the front of my house at nIght. Definitely I did during the day when I was a kid. But we didn’t have a fence, to separate the nature strip from the front yard.

And if I did need to hang out in the front of a suburban house late at night, I’d still probably do it on my side of the fence.

 

[DC3]

Well, I just think for someone hanging in front of their front gate it all seems a bit much and a sad place to be.

There’s always someone pushing the envelope.

 

[p--and--t]

There’s always someone pushing the envelope.

Is that a euphemism for "he was obviously an outright liar" .

 

[SydneySwan]

Tomorrow Australia should be under 500 active cases. I’m guessing the pesky ship off WA had something with the number being about a handful above 500

Don't they only count if they come ashore?

 

[Pushka]

Maybe I’m the odd one out, but I was thinking back, over my whole life, at all the different places I’ve lived - some apartments, some houses with big front yards, some houses with insignificant front yards - and I cannot recall a time where I’ve “hung out” in the street in the front of my house at nIght. Definitely I did during the day when I was a kid. But we didn’t have a fence, to separate the nature strip from the front yard.

And if I did need to hang out in the front of a suburban house late at night, I’d still probably do it on my side of the fence.

But that's you. If you have been stuck at home all day for weeks then just getting outside might be what you have to do. Late at night not likely to bother anyone nor see anyone. Maybe the kids have had a horror day and just gone to sleep. People are different and do different things. Maybe he wanted a smoke and didn't want to smoke in yard. I don't know. There can be many innocent explanations that may not occur to you and I.

 

[p--and--t]

But that's you. If you have been stuck at home all day for weeks then just getting outside might be what you have to do. Late at night not likely to bother anyone nor see anyone. Maybe the kids have had a horror day and just gone to sleep. People are different and do different things. Maybe he wanted a smoke and didn't want to smoke in yard. I don't know. There can be many innocent explanations that may not occur to you and I.

You should advertise your services. Just the resource a lot of the deliberate restriction breechers need when they get caught out and can't think of an excuse quickly.

YMMV

 

[SydneySwan]

I wonder if 'putting the bins out' was the euphemism.

I worked on a banking software implementation project in Melbourne many moons ago (early 1990s) where the manager used to order in pizzas every night for those who worked beyond 8pm or so. The manager's wife had him on a special diet at home at the time which he didn't follow at work. She used to ring him up at the office in the evening and sometimes he was down in the building foyer waiting for the pizzas to be delivered. We were under strict instructions to tell her that he was 'putting the bins out'. Apparently life was not worth living if she thought he had even smelt a pizza let alone scoffed one. He had convinced her that every night the test reports were shredded for security reasons and he took personal responsibility for depositing the bins in the bin collection area.