Australian Reports of the Virus Spread

[OATEK]

So that is what 4 hours drive away?

Away from what?

The story is that the person was in the area before notification for those in/from/visiting the northern beaches to isolate. There does not seem to be any issue with the travel to the south coast. The issue is that after the notifications, instead of staying isolated the person went out and had a good time, risking the health of others.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Away from what?

The story is that the person was in the area before notification for those in/from/visiting the northern beaches to isolate. There does not seem to be any issue with the travel to the south coast. The issue is that after the notifications, instead of staying isolated the person went out and had a good time, risking the health of others.

If they were not actually in the northern beaches in the infectious period then no issue. In which case why the news report? If they were there in the infectious period (as opposed to when the isolation notice was issued) and out and about then then that is an indication that positive cases could be anywhere.

If they had been in the northern beaches

 

[moa999]

And those 7+1 cases from 44,466 tests, testing up 15% on yesterday.

Getting it back to single digits is impressive.

 

[OATEK]

If they were not actually in the northern beaches in the infectious period then no issue. In which case why the news report?

My understanding is that they were there in the infectious period, but had left for the South Coast before the SHTF, and notifications went out.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

My understanding is that they were there in the infectious period, but had left for the South Coast before the SHTF, and notifications went out.

Yes "but should have been self-isolating." So if accurate when they knew that they should have been isolating but they were not.

My point is that such cases could be quite widespread.

This just demonstrates why testing needs to great everywhere and why Northern Beaches only cannot be the sole focus.


PS. As I have stated many times I think NSW is doing the right thing. But equally transmission sites are not just in the northern beaches and the potential exposure sites are obviously quite large. ie Wear a mask!

44K tests results announced in NSW today = great news.

 

[Lynda2475]

This just demonstrates why testing needs to great everywhere

Dr Chant confirmed that testing rates up across all metro areas, not just in Norther Beaches.

 

[Princess Fiona]

I borrowed a library book yesterday and when I got it home a boarding pass fell out from a QF flight from Sydney last week (Complete with 7 digit QFF number commencing 02 so a QFF long term member )

And before the usual peanuts pile on to explain why I shouldn't have posted, this is the same library that when it reopened in June after lockdown and we were able to return books after weeks of not being allowed to, all the books had to be put in a special return chute where they then sat for a week before the staff were allowed to touch them and process them. So either they overreacted then, or else they're not taking enough care now. (I hope the former).

Are you sure it’s from this year ? QF stopped printing QFF numbers on Boarding Passes in 2019. I’d say the previous borrower used old BP as bookmarks. I often do.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Interesting today that with the 15 year and her mother the Vic Authorities stated that they were accessing their mobile phone data to verify that they had only been where they stated that they had been.

Presumably this also applies to the two other family household members.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

We do the heavy lifting on international arrivals ...

NSW might do the 'heavy lifting' but 55% of the arrivals are NSW residents (according to the Premier's comments). The more arrivals NSW accepts, the more NSW residents that can come home.

Many have also mentioned the economic impacts of covid. 89,000 arrivlas = lots of hotel rooms and lots of support staff. All creating income for the hotels, and jobs.

There are risks, but there are also benefits.

 

[Lynda2475]

NSW might do the 'heavy lifting' but 55% of the arrivals are NSW residents (according to the Premier's comments). The more arrivals NSW accepts, the more NSW residents that can come home.

Yes but if NSW decided to limit SYD arrivals to NSW residents only, then they could get home 45% faster.

But our Premiere is pragmatic and also has a heart, so NSW doesnt have an attitude like Queensland who famously stated that Queensland hospitals are only for Queenslanders.

Whilst hotels are receiving patronage and security and health jobs have been created, most particpating properties would still be making a loss because they arent able to open their resturants, run on demand room servie, earn comissions from tour desk and other conceirge services etc. Plus there may be a stigma once this thing is over against some of the hotels, as people worry about quality of deep cleaning.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Yes but if NSW decided to limit SYD arrivals to NSW residents only, then they could get home 45% faster.

But our Premiere is pragmatic and also has a heart, so NSW doesnt have an attitude like Queensland who famously stated that Queensland hospitals are only for Queenslanders.

Whilst hotels are receiving patronage and security and health jobs have been created, most particpating properties would still be making a loss because they arent able to open their resturants, run on demand room servie, earn comissions from tour desk and other conceirge services etc. Plus there may be a stigma once this thing is over against some of the hotels, as people worry about quality of deep cleaning.

That's a good question... do we know if states can limit arrivals to only their residents? Or is that Cth? Do we know how many NSW people are on the waiting list?

Agree the hotels may not be able to offer all their ancillary services... but a lot of other hotels will be in the same boat... except they don't have quarantine residents. So a double whammy for them.

 

[Lynda2475]

do we know if states can limit arrivals to only their residents?

I suspect not, as the airport is on Federal land, but perhaps coudl require the other states to charter domestic flights to transfer. It wont ever happen though.

but a lot of other hotels will be in the same boat... except they don't have quarantine residents.

Maybe in Melbourne but not in Sydney. Restuarants have been open for a while, day tours running, theatres performing shows - so the other revenue streams have reopened fornthem. Plus any rooms with harbour views would be highly sought after for NYE as staying in one of them is a guarantee to be allowed into the city on NYE, something that will be denied to most.

 

[ethernet]

What is gong on with COVID testing in the ACT? Two frail returned 70yo Strathfield residents who snuck in just before the curfew after lining up for hours and hours were turned away and told they would NOT be tested, only come back if you notice symptoms. (they did not have their temperature taken. I have heard of a lot of 'go aways', but they at least took my temperature before turning me away. I would be happier to know if triaging is in effect.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

I suspect not, as the airport is on Federal land, but perhaps coudl require the other states to charter domestic flights to transfer. It wont ever happen though.



Maybe in Melbourne but not in Sydney. Restuarants have been open for a while, day tours running, theatres performing shows - so the other revenue streams have reopened fornthem. Plus any rooms with harbour views would be highly sought after for NYE as staying in one of them is a guarantee to be allowed into the city on NYE, something that will be denied to most.

I guess then it's a choice for the quarantine hotels whether they continue to offer that service, or not.

 

[jb747]

And those 7+1 cases from 44,466 tests, testing up 15% on yesterday.

Getting it back to single digits is impressive.

Impressive testing numbers.

 

[Lynda2475]

What is gong on with COVID testing in the ACT?

wow just wow. There is absolutely no excuse for any testing facility in any state to turn away those requesting a test. Outside of NSW right now, there are no active community clusters so the other capitals in particular should have many resources available to do tests.

How can these states and territories not be prepared for the enivtable rise in testing that happens whenever a cluster appears elsewhere?

 

[DC3]

I’m trying to keep up with the huffing and puffing over thousands of posts. At least we can vent our frustrations (and outrage?) even though we realise that our posts will achieve nothing.

But gives us something to fill in the time.

 

[N860CR]

I’m trying to keep up with the huffing and puffing over thousands of posts. At least we can vent our frustrations (and outrage?) even though we realise that our posts will achieve nothing.

Last I checked, this is a discussion forum

 

[DC3]

Last I checked, this is a discussion forum

If you take out the hyper-ventilating, not much left.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

wow just wow. There is absolutely no excuse for any testing facility in any state to turn away those requesting a test. Outside of NSW right now, there are no active community clusters so the other capitals in particular should have many resources available to do tests.

How can these states and territories not be prepared for the enivtable rise in testing that happens whenever a cluster appears elsewhere?

All people returning to Victoria from Sydney have been told they need to get tested. This has resulted in queues 5+ hours at our hospital testing stations and pop-ups in car parks. So while there is no community transmission there are lots of (mandatory) tests taking place.