Australian Reports of the Virus Spread

[dajop]

To be a devil’s advocate .... Who are we to judge on “diversity” training when we don’t have the faintest clue of what that training is about? I assume most a coming from a white Anglo Saxon view that it is unnecessary.


But I’ve noticed many medical staff (physicians and nurses) come from all over the world - here in rural Victoria you see doctors from the subcontinent, nurses from Philippines etc. I’m sure in the UK it is similar plus many from Eastern Europe. It’s probably not a bad thing, when rolling out an important medical program for those involved in the frontline to be a bit sensitive culturally in handling patients from all sorts of backgrounds.

But as I said, who are we to judge unless we know what is involved.

 

[RooFlyer]

So Weds night Mocha Jos was attempted to be contacted and Thursday Morning they were.

They attempted to contact a business after hours by phone. Not surprising they weren’t successful. Yet the local Labour MP and others were in touch with the owners. I would have thought a red hot contact tracing team might have used social media as well as phone and ( incorrect) email ( which presumably got a ‘bounce’ message back.

Still very defensive about Victorian efforts yet consistently critical about other states.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

The ABC reported 5 hours ago that 1,106 primary and secondary close contacts linked to the Black Rock Cluster had been asked to isolate in Victoria.

 

[RooFlyer]

To be a devil’s advocate .... Who are we to judge on “diversity” training when we don’t have the faintest clue of what that training is about? I assume most a coming from a white Anglo Saxon view that it is unnecessary.

I Think the argument is about the priority of things. They have an absolute deadly emergency and need vaccines administered as soon as humanly possible. Yet the government puts this diversity training and other nonsense in the way that slows possible workers being recruited and put many right off. Maybe as one of the people suggested they might just relax things a bit so they could tackle the emergency rather than some other stuff.

TWENTY documents ( possibly more) needed for a retired doctor to administer a needle, most nothing to do with medicine? Gimme a break.

Just how ‘diverse’ is the human arm and tissue where a needle is to be inserted? For those arms and the attached bits which are diverse I reckon there’s quite a few in the NHS qualified to deal with those cases.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Still very defensive about Victorian efforts yet consistently critical about other states.

Actually I have been consistently positive about the efforts of NSW Health with the latest outbreaks.

And also critical of the Vic closing the border to all of NSW with such little notice to get back.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

While I don’t usually regard tweets as a worthwhile source of information, I find in these stories, you can click on the tweet and they come up as regular accounts and by their other tweets you can see if they are mouth-frothers or not. This ‘media’ appears to be reflecting a real story. But then again, I’m not fully up on the use of Twitter.

For a bit more balance: Coronavirus: Medics complain of 'bureaucracy' in bid to join Covid vaccine effort

Apparently the Health Secretary was already looking at ways to cut the red tape.

But also, tens of thousands of potential vaccinators have already completed the required training. So why are there a few complaining?

 

[jakeseven7]

NSW outbreak: Five new local cases have been revealed as Berala cluster spreads to regional NSW

NSW has recorded five new local cases of coronavirus, including the two infections revealed on Monday.

Deputy Premier John Barilaro said one infection was diagnosed overnight in a person who travelled to regional NSW from Berala, including through Broken Hill and Orange for a camping trip.

This case will be included in Wednesday’s numbers.

There were four cases revealed on Tuesday, including three linked to the growing Berala cluster in Sydney’s west where Woolworths shoppers have been put on alert.

Anyone who shopped there between December 20 and 31 have been told they need to get tested.

NSW chief health officer Dr Kerry Chant said the Berala cases either attended the BWS or Woolworths.

Cases are being interviewed again and CCTV combed to ensure health authorities have determined any possible points of transmission within the community.

Another positive case was a close contact of the Croydon cluster.

Five new cases have been revealed in NSW as Berala cluster grows

NSW has recorded five new cases of coronavirus, including the two infections revealed on Monday.

www.news.com.au

 

[jakeseven7]

Massive testing numbers in VIC again and good to see very low case numbers again. Hopefully this slowly ebbs out as they work through all the close contacts from the leaked Sydney cluster.

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All cases again linked and known thankfully, so still no mystery cases.

Should keep the slamming border trigger happy states content.

 

[Lynda2475]

NSW 4 local cases - 3 Berala, 1 Croydon.

Importantly the close contact of tbe Croydon cluster (believe the person actually lives in Bankstown) was already in isolation.

Looks like NB (which includes Croydon) is contained now, except for Wollongong arm where more testing is wanted due to sewage testing results.

All the calls right are for more testing in Western Sydney and South Western Sydney due to the Berala BWS/Woolworths cluster. Nice to see if you live in a coughberland LGA postcode you are unable to buy tickets to or attend the Cricket (although why anyone would go is beyond me).

 

[RooFlyer]

For a bit more balance: Coronavirus: Medics complain of 'bureaucracy' in bid to join Covid vaccine effort

Apparently the Health Secretary was already looking at ways to cut the red tape.

But also, tens of thousands of potential vaccinators have already completed the required training. So why are there a few complaining?

Why complain? Beats me. Maybe these retired Heath professionals really want to help in the lethal emergency the UK finds itself in - you know, save lives, like they have worked their lives for - but are being frustrated by bureaucrats enforcing regulations designed for employment in the local library or social work not a health emergency with hundreds dying.

But it’s nice that the Health Secretary is ‘looking at ways to cut red tape’. . I’m sure Sir Humphrey will have a jolly old time with that. After all, the proposal would have been formulated months ago surely???

 

[Pushka]

All cases again linked and known thankfully, so still no mystery cases.

Should keep the slamming border trigger happy states content.

SA wants 14 days clear of no community transmission. Sometimes that means where cases aren’t linked but where their thinking is at. I think nothing will happen until 14 days post the test match tbh.

 

[jakeseven7]

SA wants 14 days clear of no community transmission. Sometimes that means where cases aren’t linked but where their thinking is at. I think nothing will happen until 14 days post the test match tbh.

I was referring to VIC....

I suspect you are referring to NSW which of course is in a different basket of risk

 

[lovetravellingoz]

One snippet from the Vic Presser today was that all staff involved with HQ in Vic including transport worker are tested each and every day. Total tests are now up to 30K.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Why complain? Beats me. Maybe these retired Heath professionals really want to help in the lethal emergency the UK finds itself in - you know, save lives, like they have worked their lives for - but are being frustrated by bureaucrats enforcing regulations designed for employment in the local library or social work not a health emergency with hundreds dying.

But it’s nice that the Health Secretary is ‘looking at ways to cut red tape’. . I’m sure Sir Humphrey will have a jolly old time with that. After all, the proposal would have been formulated months ago surely???

Tens of thousands have already completed their training. So maybe those complaining aren't going to be suitable?

Is reducing prejudice and discrimination really such a bad thing, volunteer or not?

The wrong actions could have a negative impact on the program.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

The figures behind NSW's latest cluster are actually tracking better than previous outbreaks

Since the spike of cases linked to venues in Avalon were mopped up, NSW's daily COVID-19 figures have actually stabilised, writes Casey Briggs.

www.abc.net.au

It is nearly three weeks into New South Wales's latest outbreak of locally acquired coronavirus cases and so far the set of measures which saw the state through most of 2020 are holding the line.

After a localised stay-at-home order for parts of Sydney, tightened gathering rules and now a mandatory mask rule for some indoor venues, the state is recording a 7-day average of eight locally acquired cases a day.

This outbreak in NSW consists of two distinct parts: the Avalon cluster on Sydney's northern beaches, which looks to have seeded a second cluster centred on Croydon in the city's inner-west. A third cluster emerged in the suburb of Berala that is likely to have sprung from a second escape from quarantine.

There was a sizable spike of cases in mid-December, as the first set of cases linked to venues in Avalon were mopped up.

Three weeks into last year's wave, there were at least five concerning clusters linked to the Crossroads Hotel. These came from a series of funerals, the Soldier's Club at Batemans Bay, and clusters associated with two separate Thai Rock restaurants.

While past success is not a perfect predictor of future outcomes, so far at least, the figures are tracking better than the previous outbreaks.

 

[Must...Fly!]

How wild is the grandstanding today? Victoria now requesting modelling from AHPPC regarding the new UK strain and travel risk, considering if closing the border is necessary?

Why do states think they have any jurisdiction in this area?

And even better yet - if you were so concerned about it - why ask now? Oh because people see on the news the UK has a lockdown again.

None of this is triggered by health, if it was, this would have been requested weeks ago. I am frustrated today....

 

[Lynda2475]

It was reported in NSW presser todsy that 11% of positive HQ in NSW are from the UK but not all are the strain. Which would imply US and India still bigger sources.

If Vic selfishly close their borders to UK then NSW burden increases again, other states start denying aussies from returning via their cities NSW needs to push back and only take NSW residents, im so sick of other states not doing enough to help with international arrivals but then coughing in the media about how NSW handles things.

 

[DC3]

... If Vic selfishly close their borders to UK then NSW burden increases again, other states start denying aussies from returning via their cities NSW needs to push back and only take NSW residents ..

Move them on to Byron Bay.

 

[RooFlyer]

Tens of thousands have already completed their training. So maybe those complaining aren't going to be suitable?

I guess we and they will never know if they give up. But I wonder what ‘suitability’ is actually needed by a retired doctor to administer an injection into a series of people at a clinic, other than medical qualifications? The person administering the injection will only be in front of the patient for what - 30 seconds?

Is reducing prejudice and discrimination really such a bad thing, volunteer or not?

Oh what a lovely red herring! The argument hasn’t been about that. It’s about Bureaucracy standing in the way of retired doctors Responding to the NHS call for them to come forward to help give vaccinations in the health emergency. Yes, Minister 2021.

 

[DC3]

... It’s about Bureaucracy standing in the way of retired doctors Responding to the NHS call for them to come forward to help give vaccinations in the health emergency. Yes, Minister 2021.

Well, the poms are certainly different. Anyway, they should be assisting those ‘tired medicos in helping out.