Australian Reports of the Virus Spread

[I love to travel]

I just want to get out of SA!

And I want to get into SA to see mum - hilarious !!

 

[nickykim]

Going back to the municipal pool issue - having completed competitive neutrality calculations for a couple of larger Vic aquatic centres, no Council would want to open a pool without being able to have the associated gym and swim school classes running. Pools for casual swimming are just a money pit.

 

[I love to travel]

And I want to get into SA to see mum - hilarious !!

Pushka I have thought more about this and think we should start a Find a Friend petition with our respective state governments. The way it works is that two people from separate states have to find a friend in another state to swap with. So I will agree to come to SA for a week and you will agree to come to a nice and sunny 26 degree Qld for a week. No increased risk of hospital admission for either state as the net population numbers will not increase. Of course, if we both had partners who wanted to come, as long as the numbers equal zero population growth, still works. Simples

 

[p--and--t]

Pushka I have thought more about this and think we should start a Find a Friend petition with our respective state governments. The way it works is that two people from separate states have to find a friend in another state to swap with. So I will agree to come to SA for a week and you will agree to come to a nice and sunny 26 degree Qld for a week. No increased risk of hospital admission for either state as the net population numbers will not increase. Of course, if we both had partners who wanted to come, as long as the numbers equal zero population growth, still works. Simples

There's nothing stopping either of you leaving and coming to the "welcoming" states. Its just where you live is the problem

 

[Pushka]

Pushka I have thought more about this and think we should start a Find a Friend petition with our respective state governments. The way it works is that two people from separate states have to find a friend in another state to swap with. So I will agree to come to SA for a week and you will agree to come to a nice and sunny 26 degree Qld for a week. No increased risk of hospital admission for either state as the net population numbers will not increase. Of course, if we both had partners who wanted to come, as long as the numbers equal zero population growth, still works. Simples

Yes! I want to go to QLD! And given that each state uses the residential address of Covid victims then there is another risk wiped out to their precious numbers game! You can come here, btw, just need to be isolation while here! That could work for you?

 

[jakeseven7]

That makes more far more sense. Both from a practicality point of view and helping ScoMo out with some extra pressure from outside.

Exactly, ScoMo and Jacinda will break Annastacia

 

[jase05]

I just want to get out of SA!

You need one of these

 

[Pushka]

You need one of these

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Certainly that is an avenue we will be exploring based on qualifications in the business and will do so if the ban extends post first week of June.

I'd like to pick your brain on length of time that took and documentation you needed? Our client is regarded as essential service in Vic and we work with high levels there.

 

[Hvr]

No evidence for spread in pool water. CDC Swimming

Maybe urine kills the COVID-19 virus?

 

[Jos888]

Yes! I want to go to QLD! And given that each state uses the residential address of Covid victims then there is another risk wiped out to their precious numbers game! You can come here, btw, just need to be isolation while here! That could work for you?

I don't think they use residential addresses. WA just announced 4 new cases... a family of 4 from Victoria who arrived in Perth from Doha on 17th May and have since been in quarantine. We also had quite a few cases who are Germans from the Artania cruise ship that was docked in Fremantle a few weeks ago.

 

[Pushka]

I don't think they use residential addresses. WA just announced 4 new cases... a family of 4 from Victoria who arrived in Perth from Doha on 17th May and have since been in quarantine. We also had quite a few cases who are Germans from the Artania cruise ship that was docked in Fremantle a few weeks ago.

I think you will find that gets adjusted down the track. And people in quarantine should never count anywhere! The germans, hmm, I dont think they could find anywhere else to pop them!

 

[jase05]

Certainly that is an avenue we will be exploring based on qualifications in the business and will do so if the ban extends post first week of June.

I'd like to pick your brain on length of time that took and documentation you needed? Our client is regarded as essential service in Vic and we work with high levels there.

I honestly don’t know the steps work took behind the scenes but I’d presume they were given the ok. I was given a drafted letter from work stating what I was doing and why I was required to travel and that included names and addresses of businesses in Mildura that I was visiting. On the way back in to the state I simply stopped at the checkpoint and SAPOL asked I couple of questions and I showed the letter and my DL. Was through in about 5 minutes tops

 

[Jos888]

I think you will find that gets adjusted down the track. And people in quarantine should never count anywhere! The germans, hmm, I dont think they could find anywhere else to pop them!

Sorry, I wasn't clear, the family of 4 have all been diagnosed with Covid-19

 

[Pushka]

Sorry, I wasn't clear, the family of 4 have all been diagnosed with Covid-19

Yes, understood that - but they were all in quarantine in Perth but live in Melb?

 

[lovetravellingoz]

I don't think they use residential addresses. WA just announced 4 new cases... a family of 4 from Victoria who arrived in Perth from Doha on 17th May and have since been in quarantine. We also had quite a few cases who are Germans from the Artania cruise ship that was docked in Fremantle a few weeks ago.

Cases get recorded to the home state.

On covidlive in the footnotes each day you will see adjustments if there are any, and you often see swaps between stats for example.

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Yes, understood that - but they were all in quarantine in Perth but live in Melb?

Well 185 people just flew into Melbourne from South America and they are not all Victorians.

Each state often gets flights of returning Australians that land in different cities.

 

[Pushka]

Cases get recorded to the home state.

On covidlive in the footnotes each day you will see adjustments if there are any, and you often see swaps between stats for example.

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Well 185 people just flew into Melbourne from South America and they are not all Victorians.

Each state often gets flights of returning Australians that land in different cities.

Yes I know that. We had 800 people fly into Adelaide last month from India and I think they all lived in Melbourne. But my point was that even though they tested positive in WA, they were in Quarantine from OS and they lived in Melbourne.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Yes I know that. We had 800 people fly into Adelaide last month from India and I think they all lived in Melbourne.

That would be surprising.

But my point was that even though they tested positive in WA, they were in Quarantine from OS and they lived in Melbourne.

I understand what your point was, but you did not understand my reply. When, when people fly in they quarantine in that city. After quarantine they return to their home state.

So if they fly in from Doha to Perth, then they quarantine in WA.


The South American flight will have all quarantine in Melbourne. I am not sure about the 12 Kiwis, but I presume they would too.

 

[Pushka]

So if they fly in from Doha to Perth, then they quarantine in WA.

Yes. And I understand that too. Hence my India reference.

Just saying because they were in Perth when they tested positive and in quarantine, then they don't add to WAs tally but to Vics tally as their place of residence. But with a notation. As per my very first post in response to joss888 comment, and which was before your response that confirmed what I'd said.

Ein confusen why the ongoing queries now.

 

[Flashback]

Yes. And I understand that too. Hence my India reference.

Just saying because they were in Perth when they tested positive and in quarantine, then they don't add to WAs tally but to Vics tally as their place of residence. But with a notation. As per my very first post in response to joss888 comment, and which was before your response that confirmed what I'd said.

Ein confusen why the ongoing queries now.

I agree, why they report based on the end destination boggles the mind. The numbers should count where the infection happens and is treated will there is no longer an infection. Lies, damn lies & statistics. Tell the story around the numbers to make it look the way you want.......

 

[lovetravellingoz]

I agree, why they report based on the end destination boggles the mind. The numbers should count where the infection happens and is treated will there is no longer an infection. Lies, damn lies & statistics. Tell the story around the numbers to make it look the way you want.......

With each infection the powers at be know if they were infected overseas or which region in Australia they gained their infection in, apart from the every shrinking unkowns. It is aaprt of the contact tracing that happens in Australia, unlike in man parts of the world.

When each state reports they tell you on the day if any are hotel quarantines. So in terms of control of the virus spreading, you discount these as they are not a threat in the virus spreading. If they need to they will also analyses the particular virus to see where it may have come via.

I mentioned earlier the state totals eventually get adjusted to show them in their home state.

You also discount those where local transmission is known, as they are all in isolation.

The number that people need to focus on are the unknown local transmissions. These are the one where you might still be spreading the virus from, the others are all effectively closed off.

Even with the clusters as they are known, the new cases that may spring from them are limited to their close contacts which are also known as so these known clusters are always going to just peter out once the incubation period in the chain stops. There has still been much hand ringing, gnashing of teeth and even panic stops on the clusters but they once known are not really a danger for the virus to keep spreading. We need to stop fretting so much about what are dead ends. Now if there was an unknown cluster, then you would have a potential spread problem.

There has been very few unknown local transmission for a while. This should be the focus and this is where the control measures should now be focused.

Any new cases to be jumped on with contact tracing, CovidSafe included, isolating etc and testing of all possible close contacts. We now have the resources to do this.

A family of 4 in hotel quarantine in WA irrespective of where they are from is essentially irrelevant in terms of controlling the spread of Covid 19 in Australia except in showing that hotel quarantine needs to stay at present as a control measure for incoming people of from overseas.