Australian state border restrictions

[SydneySwan]

Sadly it seems Victoria is expected to shift the goal posts in the wrong direction today with interstate travel to resume if we reach 90% fully vaccinated.

Sounds like they are kicking behinds rather than goals.

 

[antycbr]

Sounds like they are kicking behinds rather than goals.

That I assume would also stop international travel?

I doubt that’s sustainable if NSW is open internationally on the timeline the NSW government has provided.

 

[Seat0B]

Thank you for your kind words but they did not make it. I could go into a rant complaining about the state/ national rules and the hurdles to jump through but that will not bring them back.

My heart breaks for you and your family @Matt_01.

 

[Must...Fly!]

Sadly it seems Victoria is expected to shift the goal posts in the wrong direction today with interstate travel to resume if we reach 90% fully vaccinated. The roadmap is expected to be announced at midday so we should get confirmation then.

Community buy in is through the floor.

Protests next week will be absolutely massive if they don't put forward a clear plan today that doesn't shift goalposts significantly.

 

[mviy]

News Corp seems to mostly have received pretty reliable leaks so I assume the details they’ve been leaked are accurate about the VIC roadmap.

 

[jakeseven7]

Sadly it seems Victoria is expected to shift the goal posts in the wrong direction today with interstate travel to resume if we reach 90% fully vaccinated. The roadmap is expected to be announced at midday so we should get confirmation then.

I wonder how much of this garbage from the ACT, WA and now (potentially) VIC is just to scare their population into getting vaccinated even more quickly….. you know, shoot for the stars, hit the moon and then they relax restrictions at 80% anyway you know….

I’m not condoning this approach at all especially at this stage of the of the pandemic.

Infact I think it will backfire because people want certainty right now. Not this ‘Yes we agree to the plan oh no not that VERSION’ of the plan silly, OUR version….

 

[jakeseven7]

Community buy in is through the floor.

Protests next week will be absolutely massive if they don't put forward a clear plan today that doesn't shift goalposts significantly.

Unfortunately the NSW and VIC governments have gotten very good at stifling protests! NSW showed everyone how to do it, it worked and now VIC has copied.

 

[Must...Fly!]

Unfortunately the NSW and VIC governments have gotten very good at stifling protests! NSW showed everyone how to do it, it worked and now VIC has copied.

Didn't work very well here yesterday that's for sure...

 

[jase05]

Didn't work very well here yesterday that's for sure...

The Police are in a no win situation. Use implements of force and they are seen as over handed brutes or do as they did yesterday and have a dozen officers sustain injuries.
I couldn’t do the job that’s for sure as I couldn’t help myself in giving them a walloping

 

[nutwood]

The Police are in a no win situation. Use implements of force and they are seen as over handed brutes or do as they did yesterday and have a dozen officers sustain injuries.
I couldn’t do the job that’s for sure as I couldn’t help myself in giving them a walloping

As you say, there's no easy answer. Unfortunately, the conspiracy nutters have given Covid protests a bad name. I can see a lot more people who would consider themselves mainstream joining protests soon if our revered leaders don't stop stuffing about.
At this stage we should have a clear cut and agreed plan forward. Continually moving goal posts and incompatible plans between States is very frustrating. What are we paying these clowns for? They don't have "to hold a hose", just make decisions and stick to them. At this stage, I don't think most people are even too demanding as to whether they are good decisions!

 

[jakeseven7]

Didn't work very well here yesterday that's for sure...

I’d say reducing the numbers by about 95% from the last one was a pretty good result considering. Never going to stop them entirely.

 

[jakeseven7]

I’m liking the way Dan Andrew’s is talking about case numbers.

Keeps saying ‘the inevitable increase in case numbers’ - I hope that it’s sinking in for some people…. it’s here to stay kids! Stay and spread. Everywhere!

 

[Lynda2475]

And yet his published roadmap makes no commitment to opening state borders at 80% double vaxed, even though NSW will hit that milestone ahead of Vic. The plan should confirm open borders to all states with 80%+ double vaxed, and removal of international arrival caps.

 

[mviy]

I was hoping for a plan for when interstate and international travel would happen, both well before Christmas. A disappointing announcement today. We need dates NOW.

 

[jakeseven7]

I was hoping for a plan for when interstate and international travel would happen, both well before Christmas. A disappointing announcement today. We need dates NOW.

Dan said 80% double and VIC will be open for travel. He didn’t delineate between domestic or international though.
Fully vaccinated.

 

[mviy]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1439424187286786053
At 80% of 16+ fully vaccinated Interstate borders may exempt vaccinated residents from domestic restrictions, subject to National Cabinet

 

[Lynda2475]

A state doesnt need National Cabinet endorsement to open its borders to another Australian state or territory, more weasel words rather than an outright commitment. We need to see "will" not "may".

If there is no guarantee that fully vaxed Australians can travel domestically without ISO, then travel can not be reliably planned.

 

[jakeseven7]

So good news from VIC interstate border plans, I have a joint NSW/VIC work meeting in mid Nov that I actually think will go ahead now! (Well for our fully vaccinated staff which will be everyone by then anyway).

 

[Rembrandt]

Well, who wants to place a bet that we will still be in lockdown next year? I just don't trust poititians anymore. I do really feel for the people who're struggling with these lock downs, they're the forgotten people who're falling through the cracks. We put the health system on a pedestal and discard many others.

 

[jakeseven7]

Well, who wants to place a bet that we will still be in lockdown next year? I just don't trust poititians anymore. I do really feel for the people who're struggling with these lock downs, they're the forgotten people who're falling through the cracks. We put the health system on a pedestal and discard many others.

Some people will be - the National plan allows for localised lockdowns… it’s not new news…