Australian state border restrictions

Its about your statement that NSW premiers never had any emergency powers

Which you took it out of context, it was clear to everyone else the comment was wrt Corvid as it was a reply to Covid SOE powers post and this is a Covid thread. You just want an argument for the sake of it.

n the end the power for the police to act was on the books for nearly a year before the Govt directed the police to use it in SW Sydney during the Delta outbreak

Police were enforcing Covid health orders in NSW well before the Delta outbreak in SW Sydney, they supported HQ since the start and manned roadblocks during the Northern Beaches last summer and manned southern boarders during Victorian outbreak in July 2020. NOt to mention were deployed to Bondi weeks ahead of SW Sydney. But that doesnt suit your narrative.
 
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Just looking at the Healius COVID testing form and it is not currently set up for people entering other states by driving.
Next month maybe.
In the list of countries I found Australia, but not Queensland or Tasmania :rolleyes:

Cheers skip
 
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Anyone interested in the state of WA border restrictions may care to check my experience here

 
The curse of modern society is that there's a small group of people who are really keen on telling other people what to do. The beauty of the Westminster system of government is that these people are taken aside, given good incomes, privileges and a free bar. They're allowed to think they are running things, whilst they're actually being restrained from causing too much damage.
Currently, Covid has allowed them to escape from restraint and the very real problem is getting them back in the box. There's no problem in Australia that couldn't be dealt with under 2019 legal frameworks.
 
Not a typo. From there Oz online:

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Wow this Dom P bloke some kinda guy, don't think I can refer to him as a politician.

From my outside stance he just wants to get on with life.

Good on him. Bit of breath of fresh air
Although I didn't mind his predecessor as well.

Meanwhile in Vic were stuck with...well let's keep with the thread & keep these borders open! The more the better!
 
Not sure if this has been mentioned yet, but it seems that Queen Anastasia has confirmed today that interstate visitors will need to pay for their own PCR test in Queensland. Can’t see too many people being keen on a visit based on that.
 
Can't find a media reference to it, but if true that would be quite a hit, given you have to do multiple tests on days 1, 5 and 12 of home quarantine. This is on top of the one 72 hours (or is it 70 hours?) before entering. At $150 a go, that would work out at $600 a person.

I did find a bizarre story that Qld Health is writing to people who have requests for exemption to travel they haven't responded to for months saying that if the applicants didn't respond within seven days their exemption request would be cancelled. How Kafka-esque is that?

Cheers skip
 
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I can’t find the link either. Popped up in apple news but did have a direct quote from AP. I assume she expects the other states to pay for pre-departure testing, but she won’t foot the bill for anything after arrival.

Absolute sh**tshow
 
Thanks for that link to the Guardian article about the latest communication from the QLD Government, as the article mentions, many applicants for exemptions to enter QLD and many applicants for hotel quarantine who have never received a response from their application up to 27 days ago in my case (although there would be many with even longer delays I'm sure), I just thought the QLD Government were sulking, but possibly overwhelmed by numerous duplicate applications and unable/unwilling to expand the current hotel quarantine capacity? The Guardian article seems to be implying a more manual intervention as they directly contact people and try to understand their travel plans, if they contact me I will certainly be telling them that my travel plans have been subject to their own constantly changing rules and due to this uncertainty I'm not going to be making their job easier by committing to anything yet.

If we take the massive leap in logic and believe the current QLD rules and believe that they will stick to the further re-opening on the 17th Dec, with the all domestic quarantine going in the scrap heap (and all PCR tests required 72 hours before entry) then is the current working assumption that the PCR tests on days 1, 5 & 12 is also impractical/impossible to enforce?

The other interesting thing is does anyone know if there has been a hard date given to the hotels that hotel quarantine for domestic will cease, or maybe they will keep the hotel quarantine system for international arrivals? Obviously it would be a logistical and commercial step for the state government to terminate existing Hotel quarantine contracts.

I think I can see how this is going to play out, the onerous home quarantine and PCR testing regime will keep everyone out of QLD until the 17th Dec, when importantly, road access will also be possible for entry into QLD, and there will be a rush of QLD residents previously locked out, back into the state, but I think it might be too late for the QLD tourism industry as I would be assuming that any holidaymakers have made other arrangements by now including meeting up in other states like NSW and VIC with the assumption that after Xmas and New Years people will return to their own states (except for WA residents).


Text below might be useful if anyone's spam folder has accidentally eaten this email and who might be unaware of the latest communication, its pretty generic but seems to be suggesting that the QLD is keen to clear this massive administrative backlog that they have constructed themselves.

______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

QLD GOV <[email protected]>

Dear Returning QLD Resident,

Queensland has now reached the critical milestone of 70% of the eligible Queensland population having received their second COVID vaccine dose. The Queensland Government can now move to the 70% fully vaccinated stage of Queenslands COVID-19 Vaccine Plan to Unite Families (Vaccine Plan). This means that we will be expanding our home quarantine arrangements to any person who has been in a hotspot as long as they meet the eligibility requirements set out in this letter. If you are eligible, from 5 pm Monday 15 November 2021, you will be able to apply for a border pass to enter home quarantine in Queensland. This letter provides information about how you can do this. Eligibility for expanded home quarantine From this date, if you have been in a declared hotspot in the past 14 days you may travel to Queensland provided you:

Are fully vaccinated (a person who is 16 years of age or over, has received the prescribed number of doses of a COVID-19 vaccine, and it has been 2 weeks since the final dose) or evidence of a recognised medical contraindication obtained from an eligible health practitioner
Arrive by air to any Queensland airport, including one transit via Brisbane (you cannot arrive by road)
Have a negative COVID-19 test taken within the 72 hours prior to arrival in Queensland
Undertake 14 days home quarantine subject to conditions set out by Queensland Health.

If you cannot meet these criteria or have been overseas in the past 14 days or in an interstate exposure site, you need to meet the relevant requirements for entry and will be required to undertake 14 days quarantine in a government-nominated facility, such as, a quarantine hotel. Home quarantine can occur at a suitable residence, this means a self-contained dwelling with no shared common areas accessible by any persons other than those residing at the dwelling. A self-contained dwelling may include a standalone (detached) house, or a unit, duplex or townhouse where there are no shared common areas, with separate entrance (fresh air to front door) that requires no access via shared enclosed areas such as a foyer, stairwell or lift. It may include temporary commercial accommodation (for example, a short-term rental accommodation). It does not include an apartment within a highrise building, hotel room, house boat or caravan, motorhome or caravan park cabin. Your nominated quarantine residence must be within a 2-hour safe driving distance from your final airport of arrival into Queensland (noting you can have one transit via Brisbane as long as you remain within the confines of the airport). Participation requirements for home quarantine Travel from the airport to the nominated quarantine residence must be by prescribed transport (a vehicle driven by a household member who will quarantine with you, a private vehicle driven by you which is accessed by a contactless process which only you or a household member travel in during the quarantine period, a hire car obtained by a contactless process or a Government endorsed transport provider). You are not allowed to travel by mass transport (for example, trains or buses) or personalised transport (for example, taxis, limousines, and ride-share). Other members of the household must be advised of their requirement to home quarantine together with you upon your arrival for 14 days. Household members over the age of 16 must also have received at least one dose of a COVID-19 vaccine to participate in home quarantine with you. During the 14-day home quarantine period, you will be required to participate in the home compliance check-in service (www.qld.gov.au/home-quarantine-checkin). In addition, you must also undertake a COVID-19 PCR test on days 1, 5 and 12. Applying for home quarantine (from 5pm Monday 15 November 2021) If you meet the above criteria and requirements for home quarantine, you are invited to reapply from 5pm Monday 15 November 2021 for a Queensland Border Declaration Pass (QBDP) (Entry to Queensland) and select the option I am a domestic traveller who meets the criteria to home quarantine. Once it has been verified that, based on your answers, you qualify for home quarantine, you will be required to upload the following supporting documentation during the application process:

Proof of identity (for example, Drivers licence, Medicare card, Passport)
Evidence of being fully vaccinated or evidence of a recognised medical contraindication obtained from an eligible health practitioner
Flight itinerary detailing the date and time of arrival to your final destination in Queensland (do not book your flights until you receive a message throughout the application process confirming you meet the home quarantine criteria)
Evidence of having undertaken and received a negative COVID-19 PCR test result within 72 hours of arrival into Queensland.

Upon successfully submitting your application from 5 pm Monday 15 November 2021, you must cancel your previous QBDP application via the following link which is unique to you: https://www.qld.gov.au/border-pass/border-pass-cancellation/xx_yyyyzzz. It is is important to cancel your previous application to prevent unnecessary delays in application processing. If you do not meet the home quarantine criteria you are not required to do anything. Your QBDP application remains valid and will be processed as soon as possible. QBDP application times are dependent on available hotel quarantine capacity. If you believe there are extreme and exceptional circumstances that apply in your case to prioritise your application, you should continue to use the Queensland Health Exemptions process. You can apply for an Exemption through the following portal (Exemptions).

Sincerely,

The Queensland Government
 
Thanks for that link to the Guardian article about the latest communication from the QLD Government, as the article mentions, many applicants for exemptions to enter QLD and many applicants for hotel quarantine who have never received a response from their application up to 27 days ago in my case (although there would be many with even longer delays I'm sure), I just thought the QLD Government were sulking, but possibly overwhelmed by numerous duplicate applications and unable/unwilling to expand the current hotel quarantine capacity? The Guardian article seems to be implying a more manual intervention as they directly contact people and try to understand their travel plans, if they contact me I will certainly be telling them that my travel plans have been subject to their own constantly changing rules and due to this uncertainty I'm not going to be making their job easier by committing to anything yet.

If we take the massive leap in logic and believe the current QLD rules and believe that they will stick to the further re-opening on the 17th Dec, with the all domestic quarantine going in the scrap heap (and all PCR tests required 72 hours before entry) then is the current working assumption that the PCR tests on days 1, 5 & 12 is also impractical/impossible to enforce?

The other interesting thing is does anyone know if there has been a hard date given to the hotels that hotel quarantine for domestic will cease, or maybe they will keep the hotel quarantine system for international arrivals? Obviously it would be a logistical and commercial step for the state government to terminate existing Hotel quarantine contracts.

I think I can see how this is going to play out, the onerous home quarantine and PCR testing regime will keep everyone out of QLD until the 17th Dec, when importantly, road access will also be possible for entry into QLD, and there will be a rush of QLD residents previously locked out, back into the state, but I think it might be too late for the QLD tourism industry as I would be assuming that any holidaymakers have made other arrangements by now including meeting up in other states like NSW and VIC with the assumption that after Xmas and New Years people will return to their own states (except for WA residents).


Text below might be useful if anyone's spam folder has accidentally eaten this email and who might be unaware of the latest communication, its pretty generic but seems to be suggesting that the QLD is keen to clear this massive administrative backlog that they have constructed themselves.

______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

QLD GOV <[email protected]>

Dear Returning QLD Resident,

Queensland has now reached the critical milestone of 70% of the eligible Queensland population having received their second COVID vaccine dose. The Queensland Government can now move to the 70% fully vaccinated stage of Queenslands COVID-19 Vaccine Plan to Unite Families (Vaccine Plan). This means that we will be expanding our home quarantine arrangements to any person who has been in a hotspot as long as they meet the eligibility requirements set out in this letter. If you are eligible, from 5 pm Monday 15 November 2021, you will be able to apply for a border pass to enter home quarantine in Queensland. This letter provides information about how you can do this. Eligibility for expanded home quarantine From this date, if you have been in a declared hotspot in the past 14 days you may travel to Queensland provided you:

Are fully vaccinated (a person who is 16 years of age or over, has received the prescribed number of doses of a COVID-19 vaccine, and it has been 2 weeks since the final dose) or evidence of a recognised medical contraindication obtained from an eligible health practitioner
Arrive by air to any Queensland airport, including one transit via Brisbane (you cannot arrive by road)
Have a negative COVID-19 test taken within the 72 hours prior to arrival in Queensland
Undertake 14 days home quarantine subject to conditions set out by Queensland Health.

If you cannot meet these criteria or have been overseas in the past 14 days or in an interstate exposure site, you need to meet the relevant requirements for entry and will be required to undertake 14 days quarantine in a government-nominated facility, such as, a quarantine hotel. Home quarantine can occur at a suitable residence, this means a self-contained dwelling with no shared common areas accessible by any persons other than those residing at the dwelling. A self-contained dwelling may include a standalone (detached) house, or a unit, duplex or townhouse where there are no shared common areas, with separate entrance (fresh air to front door) that requires no access via shared enclosed areas such as a foyer, stairwell or lift. It may include temporary commercial accommodation (for example, a short-term rental accommodation). It does not include an apartment within a highrise building, hotel room, house boat or caravan, motorhome or caravan park cabin. Your nominated quarantine residence must be within a 2-hour safe driving distance from your final airport of arrival into Queensland (noting you can have one transit via Brisbane as long as you remain within the confines of the airport). Participation requirements for home quarantine Travel from the airport to the nominated quarantine residence must be by prescribed transport (a vehicle driven by a household member who will quarantine with you, a private vehicle driven by you which is accessed by a contactless process which only you or a household member travel in during the quarantine period, a hire car obtained by a contactless process or a Government endorsed transport provider). You are not allowed to travel by mass transport (for example, trains or buses) or personalised transport (for example, taxis, limousines, and ride-share). Other members of the household must be advised of their requirement to home quarantine together with you upon your arrival for 14 days. Household members over the age of 16 must also have received at least one dose of a COVID-19 vaccine to participate in home quarantine with you. During the 14-day home quarantine period, you will be required to participate in the home compliance check-in service (www.qld.gov.au/home-quarantine-checkin). In addition, you must also undertake a COVID-19 PCR test on days 1, 5 and 12. Applying for home quarantine (from 5pm Monday 15 November 2021) If you meet the above criteria and requirements for home quarantine, you are invited to reapply from 5pm Monday 15 November 2021 for a Queensland Border Declaration Pass (QBDP) (Entry to Queensland) and select the option I am a domestic traveller who meets the criteria to home quarantine. Once it has been verified that, based on your answers, you qualify for home quarantine, you will be required to upload the following supporting documentation during the application process:

Proof of identity (for example, Drivers licence, Medicare card, Passport)
Evidence of being fully vaccinated or evidence of a recognised medical contraindication obtained from an eligible health practitioner
Flight itinerary detailing the date and time of arrival to your final destination in Queensland (do not book your flights until you receive a message throughout the application process confirming you meet the home quarantine criteria)
Evidence of having undertaken and received a negative COVID-19 PCR test result within 72 hours of arrival into Queensland.

Upon successfully submitting your application from 5 pm Monday 15 November 2021, you must cancel your previous QBDP application via the following link which is unique to you: https://www.qld.gov.au/border-pass/border-pass-cancellation/xx_yyyyzzz. It is is important to cancel your previous application to prevent unnecessary delays in application processing. If you do not meet the home quarantine criteria you are not required to do anything. Your QBDP application remains valid and will be processed as soon as possible. QBDP application times are dependent on available hotel quarantine capacity. If you believe there are extreme and exceptional circumstances that apply in your case to prioritise your application, you should continue to use the Queensland Health Exemptions process. You can apply for an Exemption through the following portal (Exemptions).

Sincerely,

The Queensland Government

Blah blah blah*

*EDIT: Apologies! I thought this was just a cut and paste from the Qld health advice! It was so long and confusing - because the Qld advice is just incredible…

Just wait until Dec is what I read
 
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Blah blah blah

Just wait until Dec is what I read
That's a tad rude mate.
The poster went to a lot of effort to post a very informative & helpful for many bundle of information.

A simple thanks for sharing might have been a better approach.
 
That's a tad rude mate.
The poster went to a lot of effort to post a very informative & helpful for many bundle of information.

A simple thanks for sharing might have been a better approach.
No it's not rude and is not a comment on the poster. It's a fair appraisal of the post.

Direct your criticisms to the QLD gov who, under the guise of "reuniting families" have made it so restrictive and expensive, and difficult to understand the rules of entry , that no-one will bother entering prior to Dec 17.

No longer is their attitude towards daylight savings the ONLY thing for QLDers to be embarrassed about. This transcends embarrassment into shame.
 
No it's not rude and is not a comment on the poster. It's a fair appraisal of the post.

Direct your criticisms to the QLD gov who, under the guise of "reuniting families" have made it so restrictive and expensive, and difficult to understand the rules of entry , that no-one will bother entering prior to Dec 17.

No longer is their attitude towards daylight savings the ONLY thing for QLDers to be embarrassed about. This transcends embarrassment into shame.
It was dismissive of the poster.

Maybe you didn't have your coffee this morning yet.
 
That's a tad rude mate.
The poster went to a lot of effort to post a very informative & helpful for many bundle of information.

A simple thanks for sharing might have been a better approach.

I actually thought it was just a cut and paste of the release we all got, and have edited my post to reflect this! Thanks for pointing that out!
 

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