Best QF Status Run options after 1 July 2014

[Happy Trails]

Re: Best Status Run options after 1 July 2014

So that makes it either Bermuda, isosceles, scalene, equilateral, acute, obtuse or right...

Let's not forget percussion.

 

[hossein_au]

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Or they come back to you later and say "Sorry, I thought a triangle had *four* sides...."

That would be "simplified" triangle!! ;-)

 

[wandering_fred]

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Well, depends on how close to the zone boundary you are. GCM and Qantas' measurements can vary, which can affect zones.

Can we have someone who has actually flown HKG-TPE (and credited to QF) document the distance?
GCM I think says 501 miles.

It might be useful to see if the recent various Asian earthquakes have moved things.

Happy wandering

Fred

 

[Joshua]

Re: Best Status Run options after 1 July 2014

HKG-TPE has a ~5% Q tax.

CX 401 BUSINESS TAIPEI/HONG KONG 483 121 - 604 40
CX 450 ECONOMY HONG KONG/TAIPEI 483 - - 483 20

^My only ever CX economy booking, in full Y.. opup-ed

Sounds like I better take another look at US runs, they've never been my forte.

 

[anat0l]

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We're still a few lobotomies short of (say) the FT Avianca pages, but this hinting business gets old really quickly.

I suppose some are being a bit more apprehensive given that the number of options now is severely reduced; trying to keep any smoking contained.

I guess one way or another it'll get reported. I remember it was either Gold Member or another AA expert who used to talk on routes by using riddle clues not completely out of place in a cryptic crossword.

 

[Awesom Andy]

Re: Best Status Run options after 1 July 2014

HKG-TPE has a ~5% Q tax.

CX 401 BUSINESS TAIPEI/HONG KONG 483 121 - 604 40
CX 450 ECONOMY HONG KONG/TAIPEI 483 - - 483 20

^My only ever CX economy booking, in full Y.. opup-ed

Sounds like I better take another look at US runs, they've never been my forte.

Confirmed. There's another route someone has posted, can't remember now, but it was 749 miles instead of a slightly greater number.

 

[Gold Member]

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I guess one way or another it'll get reported. I remember it was either Gold Member or another AA expert who used to talk on routes by using riddle clues not completely out of place in a cryptic crossword.

Yes, me and lots of other people, and for good reason - QF do read this forum. We would be foolish to assume that none of the documented AA status runs on this site contributed to the new Simplified intra-US earn table.

 

[gizzard]

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It's going to be a costly business earning SCs domestically but one of the best routes is:

LST-xMEL-xSYD-OOL or vv Red e-Deal Y. Currently $191 for 30 SC or $6.37/SC

For a bit more comfort:
HBA-xMEL-xSYD-DRW or vv in J. Currently $1168 for 160 SC or $7.3/SC

Melburnians (or those inhabiting the top end) could consider:
MEL-xBNE-CNS or vv Red e-Deal Y. Currently $262 for 30 SC or $8.73SC
or
MEL-xSYD-DRW or vv in J. Currently $1020 for 120 SC or $8.5/SC

I'm happy to have these checked!

 

[kpc]

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Yes, me and lots of other people, and for good reason - QF do read this forum. We would be foolish to assume that none of the documented AA status runs on this site contributed to the new Simplified intra-US earn table.

I agree with Gold Member....basically all the "tricks" discussed on AFF in the last year or two have been "shut down" by QF in the last round of changes. Unless there is a private forum on AFF (which I'm told will NOT happen) where industry reps are prevented from accessing, you will be unwise to post good deals / tricks / loopholes here less they be shut down.... alot of these things are now being discussed offline, including at social events, only:idea:

 

[anat0l]

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Yes, me and lots of other people, and for good reason - QF do read this forum. We would be foolish to assume that none of the documented AA status runs on this site contributed to the new Simplified intra-US earn table.

I agree with Gold Member....basically all the "tricks" discussed on AFF in the last year or two have been "shut down" by QF in the last round of changes. Unless there is a private forum on AFF (which I'm told will NOT happen) where industry reps are prevented from accessing, you will be unwise to post good deals / tricks / loopholes here less they be shut down.... alot of these things are now being discussed offline, including at social events, only:idea:

Whilst I don't purport that it is a futile effort, eventually these things will get out, one way or another. AFF is not the only forum or circle where these kinds of things get discussed, and certainly not all of those forums have or will have the same thinking in this regard. Blogs have a good tendency to let things on a bit. Consistent bookings of certain routings or patterns will be noticed eventually, and even if they don't, they will manifest themselves in the overall analysis when airlines / FFPs do their data mining. Whether or not the relevant companies (e.g. Qantas) are sharp or read widely enough to see these is irrelevant.

 

[kpc]

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Whilst I don't purport that it is a futile effort, eventually these things will get out, one way or another. AFF is not the only forum or circle where these kinds of things get discussed, and certainly not all of those forums have or will have the same thinking in this regard. Blogs have a good tendency to let things on a bit. Consistent bookings of certain routings or patterns will be noticed eventually, and even if they don't, they will manifest themselves in the overall analysis when airlines / FFPs do their data mining. Whether or not the relevant companies (e.g. Qantas) are sharp or read widely enough to see these is irrelevant.

Sure eventually things will get shut down as you say, but I don't see why we should put it on a silver platter and make it easier (and quicker) for QF by posting it here for the rep to read. I, and a lot of other AFFers I know, no longer post these things here anymore FWIW...at social gatherings, I'm happy to share on the condition that it is not posted online

 

[anat0l]

Re: Best Status Run options after 1 July 2014

Sure eventually things will get shut down as you say, but I don't see why we should put it on a silver platter and make it easier (and quicker) for QF by posting it here for the rep to read. I, and a lot of other AFFers I know, no longer post these things here anymore FWIW...at social gatherings, I'm happy to share on the condition that it is not posted online

Well, at least two of these "schemes" has been on a silver (golden?) platter for a very long time now and only just got attention!

My post was not intended to be a dig at yourself, Gold Member, or others who wish to keep these things behind some closed doors. I guess it was more just a realisation of the reality that even slowing down exposure won't prevent them from being "redressed", for those who think that so. Also, if for some reason these things do get exposed online, it would not be surprising, and it will be either unwittingly, or rather with due consideration (e.g. bloggers).

 

[wandering_fred]

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Whilst I don't purport that it is a futile effort, eventually these things will get out, one way or another. AFF is not the only forum or circle where these kinds of things get discussed, and certainly not all of those forums have or will have the same thinking in this regard. Blogs have a good tendency to let things on a bit. Consistent bookings of certain routings or patterns will be noticed eventually, and even if they don't, they will manifest themselves in the overall analysis when airlines / FFPs do their data mining. Whether or not the relevant companies (e.g. Qantas) are sharp or read widely enough to see these is irrelevant.

Well I actually hope that QF is reading the current threads. It does seem that amongst some of the more loyal (and prolific) travelers that participate in the QFF program, there is a strong (though not universal) opinion that without reasonably easy access to OW status (and sharing) the other benefits that QF offers in the program are second rate. At least below the P1 level.

Am I going to give up my QFF card. No. Am I going to be interested in crediting QF flights to QFF where reasonable OW partner credit is available. Also no. So Qantas if you want me to fly on your airline AND credit to your QFF program, I suggest that all of your economy fares be changed so the standard is no L class availability, E and O class are super discount Y; Q and N are discount economy; S class is semi-flex and V is flex. Everything else is fully flex. Which I think is pretty much the case in domestic. Will we see it in international?

Happy wandering

Fred

 

[Himeno]

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I just can't understand why they reduced the SC earn on QF21/22.

 

[ketsuzei]

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I just can't understand why they reduced the SC earn on QF21/22.

Maybe they want us to fly CX to get our 140SCs (previously 200SCs)...

 

[Awesom Andy]

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Whether or not the relevant companies (e.g. Qantas) are sharp or read widely enough to see these is irrelevant.

I'm pretty sure a booking with 12 connections on the same ticket flown within a period of 2 days would stick out like a sore thumb anyhow.

 

[Himeno]

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I'm pretty sure a booking with 12 connections on the same ticket flown within a period of 2 days would stick out like a sore thumb anyhow.

I once did HEL-xLHR-xDXB-xLHR-xHKG-xNRT-xSIN-xPER-MEL over 3 days (when QF30 still went from LHR, used QF codes where they existed).
Granted, it was across 2 tickets (DONE3 to DAS13 changing at NRT).

 

[defurax]

Re: Best Status Run options after 1 July 2014

Just spent an hour playing around with Matrix and I'm still seeing plenty of $1.XX/SC within USA using the new simplified table. There's a 'triangle' involved...

Well, if we have to switch to "riddle" mode...I also found a nice run starting at Vic Power's home on the "fly'n kauaian" express. 690 SCs at $1.XX/SC. If I plot all the flights on GCmap.com I think I can hallucinate a triangle!

If all posts in this thread have to be like that to please the SC run police...I will get back to reading the fuel dump thread on FT with my team of cryptographers:mrgreen:

 

[Robbi]

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Consistent bookings of certain routings or patterns will be noticed eventually, and even if they don't, they will manifest themselves in the overall analysis when airlines / FFPs do their data mining. Whether or not the relevant companies (e.g. Qantas) are sharp or read widely enough to see these is irrelevant.

Exactly, the things that were recently closed down would have popped up on their radar when they analysed their FF data to see who's earning what? Where? How much return QF is getting for it? How many people are taking advantage of it? etc.

I am sure someone at QFF does the cryptic crossword and knows what 'triangles' means. Or 'white clouds'. Or 'in the state of roses in bowls'. Or 'from the Mohicans to the capital of the mooses to Willy Wonka land'...

I still have no idea about triangles, unless it's a body piercing ;-)

 

[ferni]

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Exactly, the things that were recently closed down would have popped up on their radar when they analysed their FF data to see who's earning what? Where? How much return QF is getting for it? How many people are taking advantage of it? etc.

I am sure someone at QFF does the cryptic crossword and knows what 'triangles' means. Or 'white clouds'. Or 'in the state of roses in bowls'. Or 'from the Mohicans to the capital of the mooses to Willy Wonka land'...

I still have no idea about triangles, unless it's a body piercing ;-)

You give QFF too much credit. But even if they do identify these, if there are only a few people booking them then it's not cost effective for them to worry about... if there are a few thousand booking them, then maybe all of a sudden it is cost effective to make changes....