Blood on the walls - vah full year results

[mono88]

I would say the risk of TT potentially polluting VA by being too chummy would be much more than TT is hurt by open acknowledgment that TT is the 'no frills' brand of airlines. I'm sure there are many former QFFs (myself included) who were pushed to VA partly because we kept finding ourselves on a JQ flight when we didn't want to be on one. I'm certain JB doesn't want to push those people back.

VA and Tiger will position the TT brand as they agree. TT is for now a brand in its own right that JB says will be "maintained".
As you say many QFFers went to VA partly because of JQ. I did not move to VA and have flown JQ on occasions when its price and service suited me but still mainly fly QF.So each to their own.

JB needs to understand as best he can all the reasons the QFFers moved over, not just the JQ aspect, and then ensure that those reasons remain valid, and the ex-QFFers stay with VA.
Then he needs to provide reasons for more people to move across to the VA "group" including to TT. Then he needs to grow the market, and the market share for both VA and TT. Then he needs to grow profitability of VA and TT etc etc..

No small or easy task. Lets hope he gives it a good shot.

 

[Deleted member 29185]

I'm on a committee that is reviewing our travel arrangements at work, we've been on BFOD for a while but people hate it, people are sick of mixed itineraries, so we are looking at what we do from here. ASX top 50 company, and I'm fighting hard to go back to QF!

I'm flying short haul int with VA next week. For once (the first I can remember in the last 8 years), the Gov't booked and paid for the flts. I expressed surprise at the VA tix as both the flag state carrier and the code share QF were cheaper on-line. The reply was VA offers them better corp rates. Seems VA are very keen to win Gov't work, but how short-sighted. If I booked and paid (which is the usual case), I get ripped off. The Gov't books and pays for the same trip and they have considerable incentives........is there logic in that? I do the same job regardless of who pays.

 

[Fruitcake]

I'm flying short haul int with VA next week. For once (the first I can remember in the last 8 years), the Gov't booked and paid for the flts. I expressed surprise at the VA tix as both the flag state carrier and the code share QF were cheaper on-line. The reply was VA offers them better corp rates. Seems VA are very keen to win Gov't work, but how short-sighted. If I booked and paid (which is the usual case), I get ripped off. The Gov't books and pays for the same trip and they have considerable incentives........is there logic in that? I do the same job regardless of who pays.

QF's negotiated rate with my employer is usually dramatically cheaper than I can book online. For a recent example, SYD-NRT was publicly available on the QF website for about $8k, our travel agent offered a price of $6.5k for the same flights.

Still a bit short-sighted by QF because in the end I chose to absorb the extra flying time and pay $4.5k to fly with SQ! Not really a fair comparison though because few people would be willing to make that travel time tradeoff.

 

[Deleted member 29185]

QF's negotiated rate with my employer is usually dramatically cheaper than I can book online. For a recent example, SYD-NRT was publicly available on the QF website for about $8k, our travel agent offered a price of $6.5k for the same flights.

Still a bit short-sighted by QF because in the end I chose to absorb the extra flying time and pay $4.5k to fly with SQ! Not really a fair comparison though because few people would be willing to make that travel time tradeoff.

Yes indeed Fuitcake, but you don't say whether your employer is private industry or g'ovt. In my case, it seems a very fine line although I'm flying short haul (think PE not J) and the QF code share is dearer than VA. I'm not disputing it....it's their call, of which I have no qualms about one way or the other but it just seems VA are chaffing at that bit!

 

[Fruitcake]

Yes indeed Fuitcake, but you don't say whether your employer is private industry or g'ovt...

In my case it's private industry.

 

[lovestotravel]

Who cares what airline Government staff fly!

Fly with the cheapest