Building a stronger Qantas

[MEL_Traveller]

Can we move on from this as it is totally off topic.

The thread was started to help to build a stronger Qantas not about Mk1 or M2 skybeds in a billboard.

it was certainly not off topic, for all the reasons I outlined before. it is only off topic (potentially now) because we think it is a mk I. you cannot build a stronger qantas if you don't have all the parts of the organization across what each other is doing. many other issues in my list of dot points still remain outstanding.

 

[Simo]

Well, it is not entirely off topic. If you look at the point of my post referring the New Spirit adds, it is very relevant. Advertising the new MkII skybeds in the West is in my opinion a bit disappointing, considering that there is one route out of Perth that uses a 747, and currently it is one of the elder sisters of the 747 fleet.
People moan about consistency. You put MkII skybeds on the 747's, why not put them on your international 330 fleet to ensure the product consistency from one aircraft to another. They are around the same age, so you would think they are going to be around for a while, why not achieve consistency on a variable that you can control?

OK so we are talking about a consistent product...

Do we need to have a hundred or so comments about it.

 

[mannej]

OK so we are talking about a consistent product...

Do we need to have a hundred or so comments about it.

For a topic like this, yes we do. It is your perogative what you read of it.

 

[codash1099]

Airbus have announced that QF have now firmed up the order for A320's.

http://www.airbus.com/newsevents/ne...biggest-order-in-australian-aviation-history/

Interesting to note AJ's comment:

“The Airbus A320 will be the launch aircraft for Qantas' new, premium airline based in Asia and will support Jetstar’s expansion plans - including the establishment of Jetstar Japan,” said Alan Joyce, Qantas CEO. “The A320 Family’s outstanding operational efficiency and comfort, plus its environmental credentials, make it the right choice for the Qantas Group.”

So in buying 737's for QF DOM, he's making the wrong choice for the Group?

 

[serfty]

...

So in buying 737's for QF DOM, he's making the wrong choice for the Group?

Does that quoted text imply 73H's don't have "environmental Credentials"?

Did he state the 73H's have worse "credentials"?

Certainly the 73H's are much more fuel efficient than earlier model 737's; do they have more or less "Environmental Credentials" than contemporary 320's?

In any case, 'tis a speech. Take the specific statements and avoid the reading anything further then what was stated.

 

[Red Roo]

Hi everyone,

A lot of speculation on Perth advertising and Mark 1 vs Mark 2 Skybed so thought I would clear things up.

The photo of the woman sleeping is in fact in a Mark I Skybed, not the Mark II Skybed.

(This is the product which is currently on our B747-400 and International A330 fleet, and operating on selected East-West services)

Sorry I did not pick up earlier on this debate, might have saved you all a bit of time :shock:

Cheers,
Red Roo

 

[TiredOldFlyer]

Check out this Lateline interview.

Lateline - 29/09/2011: Jetstar accused of compromising safety

Interview with Singapore based Jetstar cabin crewmember.

Perhaps the Qantas pilots and other crew are right to be concerned about off-shore crew.

Reports such as this are not helping "Building a Stronger Qantas"

 

[amaroo]

Hi everyone,

A lot of speculation on Perth advertising and Mark 1 vs Mark 2 Skybed so thought I would clear things up.

The photo of the woman sleeping is in fact in a Mark I Skybed, not the Mark II Skybed.

(This is the product which is currently on our B747-400 and International A330 fleet, and operating on selected East-West services)

Sorry I did not pick up earlier on this debate, might have saved you all a bit of time :shock:

Cheers,
Red Roo

I've watched this debate and have previously commented that it's an irrelevant topic.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Hi everyone,

A lot of speculation on Perth advertising and Mark 1 vs Mark 2 Skybed so thought I would clear things up.

The photo of the woman sleeping is in fact in a Mark I Skybed, not the Mark II Skybed.

(This is the product which is currently on our B747-400 and International A330 fleet, and operating on selected East-West services)

Sorry I did not pick up earlier on this debate, might have saved you all a bit of time :shock:

Cheers,
Red Roo

thanks RR! do we actually have a link to the relevant ad anywhere? I would love to see what all the fuss was about

 

[Awesom Andy]

Check out this Lateline interview.

Lateline - 29/09/2011: Jetstar accused of compromising safety

Interview with Singapore based Jetstar cabin crewmember.

Perhaps the Qantas pilots and other crew are right to be concerned about off-shore crew.

Reports such as this are not helping "Building a Stronger Qantas"

We need to keep in mind that, from SIN, every single flight is international. Of course, it would not be nice to do SIN-DRW/HKG flights back to back, but they do have other destinations that are much closer. While I don't have their rosters, I would imagine them being rotated around to a certain degree.

I also wonder, if an Aussie crew were asked the same questions at briefing, would they be able to answer better than the SIN based crew.

I think that, in the pure business sense, there's absolutely nothing wrong with the operations. This is the result of globalization, where companies move to different markets where costs can be much lower.

In terms of ethics, however, that's opening a can of worms...

 

[Danger]

Hi everyone,

A lot of speculation on Perth advertising and Mark 1 vs Mark 2 Skybed so thought I would clear things up.

The photo of the woman sleeping is in fact in a Mark I Skybed, not the Mark II Skybed.

(This is the product which is currently on our B747-400 and International A330 fleet, and operating on selected East-West services)

Sorry I did not pick up earlier on this debate, might have saved you all a bit of time :shock:

Cheers,
Red Roo

If this is the case I stand corrected and apologise unreservedly. If you could post a photo, that would be great.

 

[codash1099]

I didn't want to start a new thread - hope this one is appropriate.

Interesting comment (and cartoon) on the Age web site:

Qantas Cancels More Flights After Industrial Action

 

[el_rooto]

It seems like all the planes which have been grounded are 737-400's and 767's, which were all going soon anyway...

 

[oz_mark]

It seems like all the planes which have been grounded are 737-400's and 767's, which were all going soon anyway...

The Qantassource states it was TJO and TJF that were stored. I suspect we won't see them back.

I do wonder, though, how many aircraft Qantas can pull before it starts having a noticeable impact.

 

[el_rooto]

The Qantassource states it was TJO and TJF that were stored. I suspect we won't see them back.

I do wonder, though, how many aircraft Qantas can pull before it starts having a noticeable impact.

Points to anyone who can find a picture of them in Australian Airlines livery....

 

[awilcockson]

Points to anyone who can find a picture of them in Australian Airlines livery....

VH-TJO Boeing 737
http://www.aussieairliners.org/b-737/vh-tjf/4620.069.html

So how many points were you transferring to me?

 

[el_rooto]

VH-TJO Boeing 737
VH-TJF Boeing 737

So how many points were you transferring to me?

I meant points as in a vague, brownie points kind of thing.

You can have all 20 of my fly buys points if you'd like

 

[amaroo]

VH-TJO Boeing 737
VH-TJF Boeing 737

Well, where did those days go......seemed only like yesterday

 

[mannej]

Which 2 767's are being stored?

It may turn out to be a blessing in disguise if 2 of the older 767's are put away.

 

[jb747]

Which 2 767's are being stored?

It may turn out to be a blessing in disguise if 2 of the older 767's are put away.

Given that there aren't any wide body replacements anywhere in the system, I'm not too sure how that can be any sort of blessing.