Business class babies

[drron]

There is already a solution.

 

[tracman]

Before we had our child I too was young and naieve and dreaded babies on flights and .

After having our son we are avoiding air travel as much as we can but not always possible.

Had to visit my grand mother overseas who is 92 so I could introduce my son to his great grand mother at least once.

Now next year is again a trip to visit his great grand mother on my wife's side.

If he cries a bit during takeoff yes we have a dummy and bottle of milk ready.
If he cries during yes we're ready to do laps up and down the aircraft till he settles.
It's mostly boredom.

Apart from that were staying put and doing car trips till he's older

 

[JohnK]

Look at this little darling, isn't he lovely. I think with a performance like that he should get a business upgrade

I thought this thread was about babies not kids.

Also can we ban those that drink alcohol because I'm sure one of them will drink too much and assault the person next to them or try to open the exit door or urinate on the floor.

 

[Quickstatus]

Dumbasses! Why didn't they sit in Y+ with the toddler and get a flat bed in J. Would have saved a J child fare too!

Actually quite smart. In J the disruption would be to less passengers than if the child was in Y+. (Less J passengers per sq m than Y+)

That’s the problem with premium cabins. The expectations are always greater than the reality of the official benefits. The airlines don’t sell a “quiet enjoyment” of the seat.

Here is a question: does qantas use the word “quiet” in its website description of the J experience.

 

[whiteshark]

Seen these video's before, a Y performance not J, the subject of this thread.

Point taken. So for readers other than you: all flight behaviour should be socially acceptable behaviour. Regardless of class we fly we need to treat others and their space with respect. Most people want to have a relaxing/enjoyable flight.

 

[suze2000]

Seen these video's before, a Y performance not J, the subject of this thread.

So what you are saying is that it's okay that a kid has distressed a whole plane full of pax as long as it happened in Y?

 

[Matt_01]

Point taken. So for readers other than you: all flight behaviour should be socially acceptable behaviour. Regardless of class we fly we need to treat others and their space with respect. Most people want to have a relaxing/enjoyable flight.

Totally agree with your comment, and if MissM's behaviour on any flight is out of order MrsM and I deal with her. I am on flights every week so I thought I have seen it all but modern social media suggests otherwise.

So what you are saying is that it's okay that a kid has distressed a whole plane full of pax as long as it happened in Y?

Maybe you have miss interpreted my post. This thread is about babies (midgets) in J. The video link in this thread of the child behaviour was posted on social media and in other threads on this site a few moths back. Would I have liked to been on this flight, absolutely not and in my opinion it is the parents responsibility to manage. I am over all the self indulgent whiners who think babies/ young kids should not travel in J or F cabins.

I get that some of these people may have saved for years for that once in a lifetime J trip, however there are others who can afford either cash, points or a combination of both to travel in J or F and I am somewhere in between. Regardless of cash or points if an individual is willing to spend the money or use points to be in a J or F cabin they have every right to be there.

 

[Denali]

I don't think it's appropriate to use the word midget anymore.

Just saying

 

[Matt_01]

I don't think it's appropriate to use the word midget anymore......

Get that but I am not politically correct.

 

[p--and--t]

A bit off topic but this thread bring's back so so bad memories of my first J flight on BA from Hong Kong to Heathrow several years ago during school holidays.

Parents with ~5yo twins either drank lots or took tablets and slept for most of the flight while their kids ran amock in J climbing on seats playing chasie, throwing objects around, screaming et al.

The BA crew who couldn't give a sh.. all disappeared after evening meal service and we're not seen until breakfast.

Nobody slept in J that night except the parents.

 

[daft009]

A bit off topic but this thread bring's back so so bad memories of my first J flight on BA from Hong Kong to Heathrow several years ago during school holidays.

Parents with ~5yo twins either drank lots or took tablets and slept for most of the flight while their kids ran amock in J climbing on seats playing chasie, throwing objects around, screaming et al.

The BA crew who couldn't give a sh.. all disappeared after evening meal service and we're not seen until breakfast.

Nobody slept in J that night except the parents.

Seems like a common occurrence with BA... Business class babies

 

[Duffa]

If anything, finally, an actual example on why support animals should be allowed on flights, if he had one that is. Anything to relax him.

I'm thinking of support animals too; mostly carnivorous

 

[2infinity]

OMG......I didn't realise the AFF forum was just a blog for the whinging over privileged. Get over it princesses. Yes, a crying baby sucks. Nobody likes it, including the parents. If it is bothering you that much and the parent is obviously doing nothing, open your mouth and say something (in a nice way) to the parent.

There has been a few comments about airlines being dedicated no babies zones. I fully agree with this. All low cost carriers should implement this policy, so if you want to guarantee no babies, fly Jetstar, Tiger and other cough airlines. My money is on the over privileged continuing to fly full service airlines that offer premium cabins, despite the odd baby they might encounter. Argument over!

Think about it. Do you honestly think a full service airline is going to say NO to parents with babies in premium cabins. Premium cabins sales is where the money is for these airlines. They say YES to anyone prepared to pay. The drunks, the ones with body odour, the loud laughing ones, the DYKWIA's.

This whole discussion is only relevant on large planes anyway. Doesn't matter if you are in J or not on a B737. You're going to hear that baby throughout the whole cabin.

 

[nickykim]

Not strictly flight related but I’ve seen the brain fade that can take over parents and grandparents when they have small kids in tow. Just saw it the other week at our Market with my SIL who had her 4 and 6 year old grandkids in tow. There were prams and dolls and other such useless things. SIL completely blocked a main path while sorting out one of the kids tantrums. People piling up behind. My brother and I looked at each other and moved them out of the way. SIL is not normally the kind of person to impose a large footprint but give her children and her common sense flies out the window.

Yep, am in the process of persuading my daughter, who just had her first child, that a chest carrier is a much better option for getting around that a bl**dy huge pushchair.

 

[Pushka]

Yep, am in the process of persuading my daughter, who just had her first child, that a chest carrier is a much better option for getting around that a bl**dy huge pushchair.

Oh absolutely. We used the then ‘slings’ and which makes for hands free. Also easier to comfort etc. My niece who had her babies within the last five years was up to date with all the trends and used them until the kids were toddlers, actually now they use backpack style carriers. Very popular amongst the young trendies.

 

[TripleB]

Airlines are not common carriers so if they choose they can restrict access to a particular cabin by age.

Just one problem - the Australian airlines are subject to the Age Discrimination Act - which prohibits discrimination in the provision of goods and services on the basis of age.